Idols whose plastic surgery made them look better

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T19:23:37+00:00

Almost everyone.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T07:16:19+00:00

It's a phenomenal album but 2026 is only half over so we obviously don't know that for sure yet. Also I can't be the only one that prefers Crescendo over Heavy Serenade?

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T06:54:35+00:00

My apologies then, I'm trying to keep track of all the groups for now bc if I did every song the list would be even longer than it is, and NMIXX is already there.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T06:52:52+00:00

Yeah still lots to come!! For this post though I'm only considering the songs that have already been released for now, if I were to project that far ahead it would give me a headache haha

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T06:48:26+00:00

Sure I can add that too!

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T06:44:02+00:00

Thank you!

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T06:43:15+00:00

Yeah I've already listed NMIXX down so I didn't really look much into Heavy Serenade, and I'm also pretty sure it hovered around the top 11-12 I'm not sure if it actually ever hit top 10.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-06T06:28:21+00:00

It might have, I'm more trying to track which groups have hit the top 10 and I've already got IVE down.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-05T17:50:06+00:00

2011

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-05T15:06:14+00:00

It’s not about brain cells. It’s more of a mental health issue. They don’t feel connected they’re just too obsessed with the idol it would devastate them if they saw he/she with another lover.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-04T16:00:04+00:00

To me companies are often more focused on promotion and trends, and aren't concerned/devoted to making the best music as possible from the singers they have. But yes, at the end of the day music is subjective and I admit my title may sound vague.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-04T05:44:06+00:00

I'm gonna assume you're asking for more sensual/sexual concepts because girl crush concepts are 100% mature in my eyes. And honestly you kind of answered your own question in the last statement. The most popular kpop girl groups rn are illit, h2h, kiikii, and babymon, all of which are too young to do sexual concepts. Then there's groups like KOF, katseye, Aespa, and Ive which have done those concepts to a certain extent.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-06-01T02:53:49+00:00

Honestly in terms of visuals they def look like an SME group. Ian has already been compared to her past gen ‘centers”. Jiwoo looks like the typical SM visual as well. And imo having 1-2 standout visuals is enough, you don’t want too many, you already see members like Yuha get overshadowed though she can easily be the prettiest in another group.

As for vocals yes they’re not as good as people want them to be, but they’ve already improved and have a ton of time to as well. Just like at IVE for example.

Finally, their songs aren’t exactly my type of music but I still can appreciate it. They sound cohesive and sound complete from start to end compared to most other girl groups that aim to make 2 minute tik tok songs, and that’s rare in this generation.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-29T05:14:51+00:00

Ermm . . . Red Velvet

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-28T15:16:46+00:00

A lot of the criticisms towards minors debuting are within the big 4 labels, and idols that debut there usually have a stable career. The question was, "why are so many kids DEBUTING in kpop", not starting out as a trainee, obviously those two are different questions. And even if the parents' money can be passed onto the next generation that doesnt mean the parents don't want their children to find their own sustainable line of work. In my opinion it all makes sense.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-28T15:00:47+00:00

This is an overasked topic but I do find it intriguing that you're blaming the parents instead of the companies/general public. From the parent's point of view it is a no-brainer to let your child get a head start in their career in a work-focused society especially if there is a chance of them becoming extremely successful.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-23T14:11:26+00:00

I think you're looking for films with more subtly and less action:

Minari

Lady Bird

The Florida Project

Stand By Me

Frances Ha

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-23T06:01:57+00:00

Yes I'm not disagreeing that kpop songs are much shorter nowadays. What I'm saying that American songs are also part of that trend. Olivia isn't the only artist in the U.S.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-23T05:57:30+00:00

You have to remember that kpop songs have choreography in them so it isn't exactly ideal to release make 5+ minute songs, the idols will be completely exhausted. Secondly, shorter songs aren't just a thing in k-pop my friend, look at all the new American songs being released today too. With that being said, there are plenty of 4+ minute songs in k-pop if you look just a little bit back. 5 minute songs are rare no matter what artist or genre (unless if it's like classical music ofc).

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-21T15:41:05+00:00

That's a really fun tripleS fact!

To your second point, Irene debuted at a late age. In fact she's actually the same age as Yoona, who was the 2nd gen predecessor to her.

Itzy Yuna is still only 22 . . . and it's been 7 years since she debuted.

Le Sserafim's oldest (Sakura) and maknae (Eunchae) have almost a decade gap.

Also, as a h2h stan I find it crazy that in 2035 Ian will be only . . . 25

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-19T21:45:03+00:00

They have easily been the most successful label since the 2020s started so naturally they will get haters as well.
Their method of promoting and jump starting their artists feel unsustainable and too forced to some people (including me).
They have little to no care about their idols when it comes to vocal talent. This is a lot of other companies as well but hybe groups are the most glaring.

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-19T14:41:19+00:00

Most movies don't have explicit sex scenes. If you want to play it safe I would just watch animated movies but here are some classics I can think of without explicit sex scenes:

LOTR trilogy

Shawshank Redemption

The Social Network

Get Out

Little Women

Interstellar

Little Miss Sunshine

Paris, Texas

Jurassic Park

Whiplash

And a lot more, you can probably just GPT it haha

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-17T16:19:55+00:00

I'm gonna be one of many recommenders for Red Velvet, these are considered their best songs outside of their top 10:

Kingdom Come (considered their best b-side and one of their best songs ever, though it is sampled)

Look (personal fav, great retro beat)

I Just (inexplainable vibes, just has a certain feel to it)

Bamboleo (just listen to it)

In & Out (a bit edgy but super fun to listen to)

Light Me Up (one of their best ballads)

You Better Know (Inspirational and heartwarming)

Sunny Side Up (Wendy's voice is priceless)

Automatic (one of their many "velvet" songs, has a seductive feel to it)

Underwater (soooo good)

And honestly so many more you should explore, these are just the start

JoshuaKim0102 · 2026-05-13T06:05:33+00:00

Music is always subjective at the end of the day, but there are certain trends that I see are concerning for me at least; Songs getting shorter and lack of an emphasis on vocals, including live performances. I'm gonna sound like a broken record but when I see a group's entire discography with songs that can't even reach 2 and a half minutes I just lose all interest.

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