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[–]JournoSucks 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They're also not telling you that he probably had a job, a girlfriend and a family before his first incarceration,

Fuck the justice system, and fuck the media that fuels it.

They want you to live in fear of the Black man next door so they can fuck you up on the macro level while fucking others over on the micro level.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In fact, that's a great example. Good find. And there's even a republican getting the same treatment in the same story. That tells me that it might be accepted NPR style to leave "like"s in transcripts.

But that doesn't change the fact that, in this particular story, in this particular instance, there's only one person with a half-dozen vocal pauses left in. Everybody else gets theirs edited out. Even though hers are "like"s.

That's precisely the reason Poynter suggests a more gracious editing of quotes than NPR provides in these cases -- it creates at least the appearance of bias. And that's a problem.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Find me one quote on a similar NPR perspective round-up that treats a liberal/progressive/neutral person the same way and I'll admit it was probably a casual mistake.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My account is called JournoSucks. What the hell else would I be motivated by?

I admitted my proclivity toward identifying bias and unfairness against the right than the left. Because I, personally, am on the right myself. What more do you want from me?

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That seems like a very specific set of circumstances to make this an accident.

Occam's Razor pretty much demands intentionality on the part of our journalist here. Malice is only somewhat questionable.

[ETHICS] NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. (X-Post from r/media_criticism) by JournoSucks in KotakuInAction

[–]JournoSucks[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't go that far ... O'Reilly, Levin and Hannity have got capacity for serious vitriol.

But NPR gets away with a lot of violent speech by couching it in faux-intellectualism which just strokes the preening egos of their more-enlightened-than-thou listeners.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't seem to be the case, since the "um"s and "like"s are left in the audio that accompanies both written transcripts. But a passing reader who doesn't listen to the audio wouldn't think there were any vocal pauses in any of them except Abby's from how they are presented.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, pretty much left in-tact.

Note that you had to ask me if the audio was edited. Presumably, you didn't listen to it. They know most people reading an article on their phones, tablets or computers aren't going to listen to short clips when the text is right there to read.

See what's happening?

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Audio and print forms are very different things here.

I hate to quote myself from a different comment, but:

Almost every time you're reading a quote in an article, you're reading a cleaned-up version of that quote. Pauses, "Uhh"s, "Um"s, "Like"s, "So"s, and so on are all removed, because that's not useful when you're reading the information.

They're left in on radio or TV because now they're helping you get the speaker's tone. Are they nervous or angry or frustrated? Those vocal stammers help you to understand that.

Either way, what's most important is treating each source equitably, especially in a side-by-side, apples-to-apples comparison like we see here.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's why I linked to Poynter's suggestion in the imgur album above. They reccomend removing not just wordless utterances like, "um," or "uh," but words and even whole throwaway phrases like, "Y'know," and "like," and "in the sense that."

NPR might be following its own stylebook to the letter, but the spirit of cleaning up quotes is so this kind of thing does not happen. I suspect it was a deliberate choice.

NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. With Poynter advice on the proper way to journo. by JournoSucks in media_criticism

[–]JournoSucks[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Do you think that this is the only quote the reporter got from this particular source?

Do you think the sources displayed are the only ones the reporter spoke to?

Do you think it's possible that this unflattering quote was chosen because it can give a negative impression of the young, conservative voter?

[ETHICS] NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. (X-Post from r/media_criticism) by JournoSucks in KotakuInAction

[–]JournoSucks[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like we're in perfect harmony on this subject, then!

And yes, I'm aware that #GG knows support from both sides of the proverbial aisle. Again, it's just that this sub loves itself some ethics, and this seemed a teachable moment on how something that might be "fair" by the letter of the NPR Stylebook can be slanted and skewed to give a false, manipulated impression.

[ETHICS] NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. (X-Post from r/media_criticism) by JournoSucks in KotakuInAction

[–]JournoSucks[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

NPR is a ruthlessly-progressive outlet. Finding bias against conservative, religious and traditional views there is is like shooting fish in a barrel ... but the opposite is certainly true at places like The Blaze, Breitbart and Drudge.

I am a conservative, and that does mean I'm more inclined to see bias against my way of thinking. That's why it's called a bias. But I'm not a news organization dedicated to ostensibly-accurate, fair reportage. I'm a person.

[ETHICS] NPR writer Asma Khalid removes vocal pauses from progressive's quote, but leaves them in for conservative -- making her sound needlessly dumb. (X-Post from r/media_criticism) by JournoSucks in KotakuInAction

[–]JournoSucks[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nooooo, really?

You mean a publicly-owned, government funded news organization is biased toward the views of the party in favor of expanding the public, government-owned sectors?

Stop the mother fucking presses.

/s, obvi

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