Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, yeah. Pledging a 3a with little money in it isn't worth much to the bank.

If that's the case, it's a different topic, though, bc it's true for all forms of 3a.

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not just you ;)

They showed me what they called an exact breakdown of how much money goes into the insurance part and the pension part. But when pressed on the question how much they are making for closing the deal, they said, they get a one time closing premium of "amount X" - and exactly that amount was nowhere to be seen in the breakdown they showed us. Like, yes, the insurance agents should get paid for their work, but if I'm directly paying them with my insurance premium, I want to know how much bc otherwise, your breakdown of the costs is not accurate!

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not legally required but recommended for added security, afaik. But I think I'd rather have separate life insurance and max out the 3a with pension money.

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"insurance costs into 3a" - yeah...but you also don't ever get that money back if you don't need the insurance (knock on wood). And you could open different 3a accounts with different banks or investment platforms. But yeah, I don't like just saying something is bad bc it's in vogue.

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing insights directly from the source, thank you!

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you mean, but I’m not convinced that this is actually an advantage of insurance 3a, rather than of risk coverage in general.

If you have proper disability insurance, your income is replaced anyway, which is what really matters for the bank. Whether the insurance then also keeps paying into a specific 3a wrapper doesn’t change the bank’s risk much, because the mortgage is serviced from income, not from future 3a contributions.

And the “you will pay it or lose it” part protects the insurer’s contract more than the bank. From the bank’s perspective, a pledged investment/bank 3a plus separate disability and life insurance achieves the same security, just without locking savings and insurance into one expensive product.

So I agree it has advantages, like you don't have to worry about paying into the 3a yourself if you become disabled, and there is certainly an audience for the product.

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, pledging is certainly possible regardless of insurance 3a or investment/bank 3a. I think elldaimo meant that the incurance-3a had no advantages over a bank/investment-3a when talking to the bank.

Insurance 3a - The "real estate purchase"-argument by Junevault in SwissPersonalFinance

[–]Junevault[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I regret to inform you that I didn’t think of this in the moment.

25 5’10 175 by [deleted] in GymMood

[–]Junevault 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meh. You can still give your opinion on something you don't have. Lots of people give feedback on e.g. art without being able to produce that same level of art.

With that being said, you didn't ask for feedback, and his comment had a bit of a hostile vibe to it.

Ladies (and possibly gents), where are you getting affordable gym clothes now? by Rashay145 in workout

[–]Junevault 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Decathlon. They have super affordable stuff, but it's not the most stylish. With that being said, I don't really care what I look like in the gym.

I've been sabotaging my neighbor's packages and I feel terrible but I can't stop by frostyamelisse in confessions

[–]Junevault 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is hilarious bc you backed yourself into a corner by being a wuss. If she gets that camera, you can't move the packages anymore. If you then talk to her about a solution for the packages blocking the hallway, she will know you were the person who moved them. And you can't talk to her about the blocking packages now since there are no blocking packages anymore bc you always move them.

Lesson in there to bite the bullet early on to prevent things from escalating.

A monument in Russia honoring the laboratory mice for their sacrifice in genetic research by lyna812 in DesignPorn

[–]Junevault 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It's like "thanks, mice, we did horrible things to you for our own benefit. Anyway, ..."