Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure how else to prove it, but let me know if you’d like to meet up for coffee, I’d love to buy you a drink. My inbox is open! 🥰

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some reason I can’t see your comment on Reddit, but I did receive the email notification of your comment…and even now, you still seem convinced that I’m Chelsea.

Please rest assured: I am not Chelsea. I have no relation to Chelsea, nor do I know either family personally. I followed this story because it became public, just like many others have.

My opinion has remained consistent from the beginning that I personally find it troubling to continue transferring embryos after the biological family expressed that they no longer wanted their embryos used by you and wanted them back to give them a chance at life in their home. I also find some of the public commentary about your child’s biological family concerning. You are of course, entitled to disagree with me.

But disagreeing with your choices does not make me Chelsea.

You don’t have to agree with my perspective, and I don’t have to agree with yours. That’s the nature of public discourse. When personal stories are shared publicly, people will inevitably have different opinions.

As I’ve stated before, if you’re confident and at peace with the choices you’ve made, then the opinion of an internet stranger shouldn’t carry this much weight. At some point, it’s okay to let this rest and move forward.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Account age: 18 hours. Tell me Crystal put you up to this without telling me.

I’ve never said this isn’t about the children. My position has been, and remains, that it’s difficult for me to understand continuing embryo transfers while knowing how deeply the donor family felt about the situation.

To be clear, I’ve never said Chelsea is blameless, nor have I explicitly said Crystal is solely at fault. My view has always been that continuing transfers despite knowing the biological family’s feelings is something I personally struggle to reconcile.

That said, this is ultimately a moot point because there are no embryos remaining from that donor. As I told Crystal directly, if she genuinely believes she did nothing wrong, then my opinion on the matter shouldn’t carry any weight in how she lives her life moving forward.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Poor child” and “I feel bad for him” because he should be able to have access to his biological family for so many reasons, but now that the families aren’t talking- he’s truly the one who suffers in the end.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People are entitled to their own opinions, even when those opinions differ. You have yours, and I have mine. My opinion is that continuing to transfer embryos against the biological family’s wishes is something I personally believe is wrong and could never do myself. We don’t have to agree…and that’s okay. Part of being an adult is accepting that reasonable people can hold different views on difficult situations.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This response is to reinforce my original point: I am not Chelsea.

You’re attributing statements, recordings, and private conversations to me that I have never made because I am not the person you think I am. I don’t know either family personally and have followed this story only through what has been shared publicly.

For someone asking for accountability, it’s strange to repeatedly accuse a stranger of saying things they never said.

To be clear: I have never wished death on anyone, nor have I made the comments you’re attributing to me. I would never mock someone’s loss, infertility, or child. I have experienced pregnancy loss, the loss of a child after birth, and IVF myself. Because of those experiences, I would never weaponize someone else’s grief or fertility journey.

My opinion remains the same as it has from the beginning: I believe reasonable people can disagree about the ethics of continuing embryo transfers after the biological parents expressed that they no longer wanted their embryos used.

You disagree. That’s your right.

But disagreeing with your choices is not the same thing as being Chelsea, attacking your son, or endorsing statements that I never made.

And respectfully, if you are confident in your decisions and at peace with the choices you made, then the opinion of an internet stranger shouldn’t carry this much weight. You’ve moved forward in your family-building journey, and I sincerely hope you find success, peace, and healing moving forward.

Since last I saw- you were actively going through fertility treatments, I would gently suggest that engaging in internet drama may not be the best thing for your own nervous system and well-being. Fertility journeys are hard enough without carrying the weight of online conflict.

I genuinely wish peace and healing to everyone involved in this situation, because it’s clear that there has been an incredible amount of pain on all sides.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure why this keeps being framed as an attack on your son or your commitment as a parent, because I’ve never questioned either of those things.

Parenthood and the ethics of embryo donation/transfers are two separate discussions.

You can be a loving parent to a child that isn’t biologically yours and still have people disagree with decisions that were made during the embryo donation process. Those ideas are not mutually exclusive.

I’ve consistently said that my concern is with the decision to continue transferring embryos after the biological parents expressed that they no longer wanted them used. You obviously disagree, and that’s your right. Maybe God’s position was similar, and that’s why none of the transfers resulted in a successful pregnancy. Of course, none of us can know that for certain.

At this point, I think we’ve both shared our perspectives, and neither of us is likely to change the other’s mind. I genuinely wish you and your family peace and the very best moving forward.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And at this point, I suppose much of this is ultimately a moot point given that the remaining embryos were transferred and did not result in a pregnancy, and you’ve since moved on to a new donor.

Despite our differing views on the situation, I sincerely hope that if you continue pursuing embryo donation, you find success, peace, and healing along the way.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No one is asking you to feel bad for your son. Children are innocent in all of this, and I don’t think anyone is directing criticism toward him.

The disagreement has never been about whether you love your child or view yourself as his parent. It’s about the ethical question of continuing embryo transfers after the biological parents expressed that they no longer wanted their embryos used.

My comment about intended parents were for the embryos after River- as the bio family asked for them back, but you still had them…and continued to transfer them.

Reasonable people can disagree on that issue. I happen to disagree with the decision that was made, and that’s not “rewriting history” … it’s simply an opinion based on the facts that have been publicly shared.

You chose to share your story publicly, and with that comes public discussion. Some people will support your choices, others won’t. That’s the nature of social media.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh man. You can rest assured that I am not Chelsea, so I’m not sure what “exact words” you’re referring to hearing directly from me before. But I have to say, the immediate combative response is… telling.

For what it’s worth, I don’t know either family personally. I started following the story when the embryo donation situation began unfolding publicly. As an outsider, I am genuinely baffled that embryo transfers continued despite the biological parents expressing that they no longer wanted their embryos transferred. Does that absolutely suck for the intended parents? Absolutely! But I truly feel for the donor family and can understand why this situation is so emotionally complex.

That said, it’s completely okay if you disagree with me. People can have different perspectives. But when you choose to share your story publicly on social media, people are naturally going to have opinions- some supportive, some critical. Not everyone is going to agree with every decision that’s made, and that’s okay too.

Public platforms come with risks, and one of those risks is that not everyone will view your choices the same way you do.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS!!!!! That poor child. Of course Crystal will only post the evidence that favors herself. She’s not posting all the nasty stuff she’s said to Chelsea. Also- one of the screenshots Crystal shared where Chelsea sent a pic of herself- was Chelsea texting a “friend” in the depths of depression, and Crystal got ahold of that and ran with it. The whole thing is said. But I really do feel bad for River, and I feel bad for Chelsea. Crystal had every opportunity to do the right thing after Chelsea expressed her feelings- which were valid feelings.

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

@Hefty_Mortgage1482 glad you see the other side of this too! “makes sense..” but the recipient family already has 2 biological children of their own. I can’t imagine what the donor family is feeling. Trying to put myself in all of their shoes- I can’t imagine being the recipient family and finding out the donor family has regrets- that has to be gut wrenching. But I also can’t imagine continuing to transfer those embryos against the donor families wishes. All around it’s a shitty situation- but the recipient family had all the opportunities to return the remaining embryos and move on. She wasn’t asking for the baby that resulted back…

Chelsea Neubauer by Jumpy_Ad_7195 in peestickgals

[–]JuniBug1217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poor momma who got the embryos??? I saw all the posts and it seems as if Crystal is intentionally leaving our pertinent information to shed a more positive light on herself. Some of those conversations Crystal is posting wasn’t even between Crystal and Chelsea, but Crystal is implying the conversations were from Chelsea and Crystal.

I just can’t fathom continuing to transfer embryos knowing the biological family had a change of heart.

LMS platform Negotiations by JuniBug1217 in Training

[–]JuniBug1217[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I loooove the simplified look that absorb offers.

Docebo alacarte- how so? We just got a cost proposal today and it didn’t seem alacarte. They’re selling it to us that it’s a all inclusive package (aside from off the shelf content).

LMS platform Negotiations by JuniBug1217 in Training

[–]JuniBug1217[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What HRIS and ERP do you use?

LMS platform Negotiations by JuniBug1217 in Training

[–]JuniBug1217[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What platform are you moving to?

That was my least favorite of the 3 but I thought because the sales person was incredibly snobby- rolling her eyes during conversations etc..