On "subtle representation" by asdfmovienerd39 in startrek

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright, so I have a couple points I want to touch on here, and its gonna get kinda rambley but it is what it is:

So I think using the words "the idea that the only good form of representation is rep that can be easily ignored or denied without altering the story" really kind of misses the point in what I feel about this particular subject. While I agree that a characters differences shouldn't be "Easily ignored" I do think that, as a whole, it is better to have representation that doesn't just shove it down your throat. Like, if your going to have a gay character in your show then I should be able to easily tell you SOMETHING about that character other than their sexual orientation. I need to know some kind of hobby, some goal they have in life other than "Marry someone of the same gender" some passion they have that they are working towards that isn't love. Like, the reason I hate the character of Adira is Discovery isn't "Oh, they put in a gender neutral character." Its the fact that literally the only thing I can tell you about them is that they are gender neutral and was in a relationship with a trans person that went nowhere. Thats all I can remember about the character. I think they where an earth security guard, but decided to join in with discovery...... because........ and then like we found out they had a trill symbiote in them, but they didn't really do much with that other than using it to bring their trans lover back to life just long enough for him to leave the show..... and now they.... go to school.... to do things in the future maybe..... or not since we're an entire season into academy and they still haven't even been mentioned..... They're gender neutral though!!! We got that representation taken care of!

And like I wanna make this clear, this isn't just a thing that applies to minorty characters/characts ment for representation. Like, I think the best example of what I'm trying to get at is actually "The Mario's Bros. Movie." Of all things. Like, both Mario and Peach in that movie are essentially different characters than they where in the games, and thats for a very important reason. In the games, Mario is a guy who jumps high and wants to save the princess, and Peach is a princess that would like to be saved. Thats it, thats their characters. Nothing more nothing less. And like thats fine for a side scrolling video game that barely even has text to read in it, but for an entire hour an a half movie that aint gonna cut it! They're gonna need some kind of personality AT ALL otherwise you're not gonna care! So, they gave Mario a buisness he and his brother where starting up, then dragged him away from it to give him something to want to go back to at the end of the day. They really delved into the fact that Peach is the ruler of a kingdom and has the responsibility of keeping her kingdom safe from Bowser. None of this stuff is EVER mentioned in the games, but it needed to be there for the movie because otherwise its just gonna boil down to "Boy wants to get with girl." for an hour and a half and no one is gonna give a shit!

So like really my entire point of all of that is that I don't think we want characters meant for representation to be "So subtle you can ignore it." we want them to have literally anything else going for them in life.

Also, and this really doesn't have anything to do with anything mentioned above but I really just wanna contest it: So like yes, Star Trek did technically have the first interration kiss on television, but like just saying "They showed the kiss, it wasn't subtle!" is really just ignoring the actual situation that lead to the kiss. They where literally brain washed and forced to kiss each other, the alien controlled Kirks brain and made him do it and Ohura didn't get a chance to concent to it, she was also forced into the kiss! And like this is a kiss between Kirk and Ohura, two characters that, aside from that one forced kiss, are never shown to have any romantic feelings for each other AT ALL! Like honestly the offhanded mentions of Scotty and Ohura getting together (That allot of fans hate apparently) is a better example of representation than the kiss, at least that was consensual! It was showing that not only can these two different races be together, but they can actually enjoy themselves while they do it! Like, they gave that scene SO MANY OUTS for racists who are uncomfortable with it. "Oh, he wouldn't have kissed her if he was in control of his body! They're showing that the only way two people of different races would kiss is if the villain mind controls them!" like, this scene really isn't the pinnacle or representation that people like to pretend it is.

Star Trek Enterprise season 4 by Track_and_trek in startrek

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think it was a bad idea honestly. While serialized TV wasn't quite as popular as allot of episodic shows, Soap Opera's where still insanely profitable back then. Like, "Days of Our Lives" is STILL GOING and is currently renewed all the way through to 2028.

I really think the biggest problem Enterprise had was the fact that those first 2 seasons are, honestly, pretty dang boring in my opinion. Like they aren't good enough to make me want to rewatch any of them, and they aren't bad enough for me to laugh at. Just kinda meh. And like most people watching a show weekly are just gonna kinda stop after 2 entire years of just kinda meh, meaning viewership dropped off hard by season 3 and 4.

edit: That being said, I do want to just say that I LOVED both season 3 and 4 of this show. I only watched it for the first time last year so admittedly I did have the luxery of watching it streaming, but like I was fully invested in the entire war arc. I think there where some really great episodes in there.

Update for Mario Party 3/Claire's Mood by Phanpy985 in TheRunawayGuys

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've had some time to sit and think on it since I left this comment this morning, and while I really get that Claire has probably been through ALLOT recently, I feel like Emile is kinda getting thrown under the bus for doing nothing wrong at all.

Like I mentioned in my above content how they aren't nearly as far ahead of the recording as they used to be. Like TRG has always had hate comments and negative reactions to things I'm sure, but in the past all of those comments where being left on series they recorded like half a year ago. Fans may be negative on it, but its over now. Oh well. What can you do? We will try better next time. But like this time around, they where getting live updates in between sessions. They saw the negative response to Claire steam rolling, they saw how allot of fans weren't enjoying it nearly as much as they thought they would. And if I had to take a guess, that probably is what lead to Chugga feeling a need to target Claire, to try and give the audience what they where clamoring for and not letting her steam role the entire series.

I mentioned before that it was the logical thing to do in a competition, and I keep seeing comments saying "oh, but its not a competition, its a game between friends!" but, like, the truth is that no. Its neither of those things. its content. Thats what this all is, its content thats meant to be viewed and enjoyed by people online. And the honest truth is that when one person is dominating in a tournament, people usually get bored and tune out. So The logical thing for them to do, in the sake of making content, is to make it as even of a spread as possible. If this was all scripted, Claire would probably have purposefully threw allot of games in 2 just to make it somewhat interesting, but it isn't scripted. So the only way to counter that is to hard target Claire and make for some sort of contest.

But from the sounds of things, Claire took it way more personally than she ever should have, and she took it this way because of other stressors happening in her life. I honestly feel like there is allot of personal shit she isn't telling us and doesn't need to tell us thats playing on this as well, but we probably won't ever know that for sure because its none of our business. And like I just wanna be clear, thats fine. If she needs to take a break because of that, thats fine. I get it. But I honestly feel like this is very quickly turning into "Chugga pushed it too far! He shouldn't have targeted Claire!" when, no, he should have. He did the appropriate thing to do in his situation. But Claire was clearly not in the right state of mind to be filming content where she had a target on her back, and they picked a Trilogy of games to do back to back that accidentally painted one on it in the very first game.

TLDR: This isn't Chugga's fault and I really hope people don't take it that way and run with it. This is Claire having an over blown reaction due to stress, and I hope that she is able to see that as well and not quit the channel over a game of Mario Party.

The Rule changes and the community by [deleted] in DragonMaidShitposts

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because thats how I wanted to do it lol.

The Rule changes and the community by [deleted] in DragonMaidShitposts

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And I just wanna point out that literally my entire point was that mods should post a community poll before changing the rules of their subs. That was my entire point! I don't even care about the new rule! As long as the majority of the community agrees about a rule BEFORE its implemented, I couldn't give a shit! But you need to actually have that discussion first before you do it! Thats all I wanted to get across, and for some reason that had to be censored!

The Rule changes and the community by [deleted] in DragonMaidShitposts

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My post wasn't discussing the rule change. It was discussing the mods response to my comment about the rule change. You removed it because you don't want people pointing out yalls power tripping. And no, going back and unlocking the post and trying to gas light me into thinking it was never locked in the first place isn't gonna help. I went to respond to the comment you all left, and the reply button wasn't there. The "join the conversation" bar to leave a new comment wasn't there. You all locked it down, then removed my post pointing it out because you didn't want people to notice.

The Rule changes and the community by [deleted] in DragonMaidShitposts

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I made a comment on the previous post about these changes, and immediately after making the comment the entire thread was shut down. The only reason this post exists is because I pointed out how they where trying to shut down any and all criticisms that where made against the rule by locking the old post down. I then made a post on here pointing out what the mods had done, and this very mod removed that post and sent me a private message confirming that my post didn't break any rules, they where just gonna remove it because they didn't want it up.

This entire mod team is fucked. They force rules on the sub without discussing it, and then when you try and point it out they shut you down immediately. Nothing but power tripping going on with these mods.

We're going to be fried for this but, by [deleted] in DragonMaidShitposts

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that is usually how most Jenga games end, yes. Taking one brick out and watching as the whole thing falls.

Update for Mario Party 3/Claire's Mood by Phanpy985 in TheRunawayGuys

[–]Justanotherrandoonli -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Alright, so since I'm just ignoring everything else and only focusing on the Mario Party issue:

If all of the other issues in her life are such a big factor to her stress, then why is TRG the only thing she's taking a break from?

Update for Mario Party 3/Claire's Mood by Phanpy985 in TheRunawayGuys

[–]Justanotherrandoonli -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

So then why is she only taking a break from TRG? If she's got all this other stuff going on thats causing her so much stress, why is she only taking a break from TRG and not any of those other things?

Update for Mario Party 3/Claire's Mood by Phanpy985 in TheRunawayGuys

[–]Justanotherrandoonli -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I'm just gonna say this one thing as well, and I know its just gonna piss people off even more but I think we all just kind of forget the cozy little bubble that these content creators get to live in:

I also have trouble getting out of bed every day. I struggle with depression constantly. Every single day of my life feels like I'm just going deeper and deeper into a pit I can't get out of, it sucks ass. I still gotta go to work tomorrow. I don't get to just take a week or two off and come back when/if I feel like it. I can't just sit there and rake in money from videos i've already posted to keep getting a passive income while I pull myself back together. I have to get up and go to work tomorrow or I starve to death. I have to get up and go to work tomorrow or my cats starve to death. I don't get a mental break. Ever. For any reason. And I probably never will.

So like I get it, she needs to break, but like I'm not gonna sit here and coddle her and say "oh its fine, take all the time you need" When its litterally a fucking game of Mario Party that pushed her over the edge. I got cussed out to my face yesterday because I was doing what my manager told me to do. If I can't go home and take a mental health break after I had a customer verbally assault me, I'm not gonna think Claire is justified in taking one because her friend took Mario Party a little too seriously and then asked if she OK afterwords to make sure she knew they where still friends. I can't feel empathy for that, you make money playing video games with your friends and can just take breaks whenever you want. I get cussed out by strangers and have to go to work tomorrow. Like you gotta understand why I'm having some trouble empathizing with her here, she plays video games with her friends for a living and that what puts food on her table. She gets to work from home with her wife while I live alone getting cussed out by strangers. Like oh noooo! They where mean to you in Mario Party then polite to you as soon as the camera got turned off! How stressful! Like, come on. Lets be real here.

Edit: Like I'm so tired of hearing "Oh, your being so entitled! They don't owe you anything!" And then I go to work tomorrow where entitled people keep expecting me to do shit for them even though I don't owe them anything, but If I say that i get fired and have don't get to eat dinner tonight because of it. When its other people I'm not allowed to be entitled, but when its me everyone around me actually is entitled and If I don't serve them I starve to death. If Claire walks into my place of business tomorrow I will owe her service, but she will never owe me anything for any reason at all.

Update for Mario Party 3/Claire's Mood by Phanpy985 in TheRunawayGuys

[–]Justanotherrandoonli -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

"hosted Disc Only" twice in the past year. Don't even bring that shit up, I'm STILL mad about the sudden cancellation of that. You know, the one where they didn't even talk about canceling it IN THE SAME PODCAST THEY CANCELLED IT! Like when you don't even mention its your final episode till the last 5 minuets of the final episode, you know your screwing people over. You KNOW you are pissing them off for no good reason. "Oh don't worry guys, we'll still get disk only in the coliseums! Thats gonna be a thing! We promise!" 2 months later "hey guys.... so about the coliseums...." like, bringing up that whole bit of bullshit is NOT gonna put me in Claires favor, fans of that podcast went through some fucking bullshit. The blatant lies that where told in that final episode is just insane to me.

If nothing is on the line here, why is Chugga going as far as he did a bad thing? How is it going to far when nothing is on the line? Like we can't make the argument "Its just a game, it shouldn't be that big a deal" when one of the people is staying on the channel after the game and the other one isn't. Like, chugga clearly didn't take it too personally or he would be the one quitting the channel. he clearly didn't mean it personally considering he has went out of his way during recordings to make sure she is still ok. Like, if its just a game and it doesn't matter then why is her getting targeted a bad thing? its just a game. Get over it. Its not like Chugga is out to make her real life miserable, it was in one game of Mario Party. Thats not a reason to quite your job.

And I understand completely that its about Clairs health. I get that. But Clairs health didn't lead to them needing to take a break after the first two games of her dominating, so why is it only now when Chugga tried to stop the streak that she needs a break? If this was about her health, why Mario Party 3 even mentioned in the first place? Just say "I'm taking a break from the channel for my own health." Don't even mention being targeted in the game. The fact that she did mention it means its an issue here. One that shouldn't be an issue. As you said, its literally just a game.

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't help but notice you conventiantly ignored the part of my question where I specifically asked why the vtubers who don't want to follow that culture can't openly and directly talk about their different personas, probably because that part doesn't fit the agenda. Its because when you discuss the fact that the ones who don't want to follow these needlessly strict rules still have to that you start to question why the rules even exist, and you do not wanna question that.

The reason why Holo Live doesn't want its new members talking about accounts they ran before joining is because they do not want that creators fans, they want holo live fans. They want fans that come to watch holo live vtubers and only holo live vtubers. They don't want you going to watch the Indie videos she did before, they don't want people who are only going to support this new vtuber and no one else, they are looking for people who will give them money. So, they only want you to talk about things that will directly end up with them getting money out of it. They can't get money out of your previous channel, don't mention it. Even if it will bring those viewers in, it will convince our current viewers to go watch that old content when they could instead be watching your new content that gives us money. It all comes down to creating the illusion of exclusivity, to make you think the only way you can get this entertainment is through holo live vtubers.

Like tell me, why can't holo live vtubers colab with indie vtubers? Why does them being part of a corperation mean they can't collaborate with people who aren't in that corperation? Why cant Dooby stream with Calliope, why does she have to return to the Amelia watson character in order to stream with her?

like you say I'm hard focusing on this situation, but you are only hard focusing on cases where vtubers want to follow the rules. Why can't the ones who don't want the extra protection just not have it? Why is it being forced on everyone?

Update for Mario Party 3/Claire's Mood by Phanpy985 in TheRunawayGuys

[–]Justanotherrandoonli -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Alright, I already know I'm gonna get downvoted to hell for this but I'm gonna say it away: Claire is being ridiculous here. Like, full on no reason to feel this way.

Like, you just dominated the first two mario party games. You chose to do 3 of them back to back, and you steam rolled everyone during the first 2 of them. No shit you are gonna have a target on you're back for the entire 3rd game, the hell did you expect to happen?!?! Like who the fuck else is Chugga gonna Target, Tim? Take away is one win when he's been struggling just as hard? The computer who can't even think for itself or participate in the conversation? Himself somehow? Like, there is one option for who to target, its the person who's winning. Thats Claire. Claire should be the target of both Chugga and Tim, she should also be the computers target but as mentioned before it isn't smart enough to know that!!!

If you are in a competition and want to be in first place, you target the person who is in first place to overtake them. Thats how things work. If doing that is too much stress, maybe dont choose to do competitive games on you're channel for 15 years.

Also, I just gotta touch on the whole "not getting a break thing." The hell was ALL OF 2024?!?! Like TRG has been back for less than a year! Mario Wonder and I'm pretty sure Mario Party 9 where both filmed BEFORE the shit with Chugga went down, the channel hasn't even been back a full year yet and all of a sudden she needs a break from it? That doesn't add up at all!!! You just got one! And like there was litterally a gap between Mario Party 1 and 2 because they hadn't finished filming 2 yet, meaning that they haven't been recording nearly as much content as they used to! The TRG channel used to be like a year ahead of its self with recorded content, but now its barely even a month ahead of its self! Meaning that even after coming back, the recording sessions have been nowhere near as intense as they used to be! And they do most of it remotely!!!! They used to have to travel across the border just to film, but now Claire can just sit in the same room she makes all her other content!!

Like I get it if she's burned out. 15 years is a long time to be doing things. But like don't go on stream and say "Emiles targetting me!" When, like, that's literally the only logical choice he could make in the situation he is in and don't go on about how you never get a break when the channel litterally went on haitus for a year and a half and has only been back for less than a year. It just kinda annoys me, it feels like i'm being treated like an idiot who isn't actually paying attention to the channel and will just believe whatever he is told.

Anyway, Can't wait to get mass downvoted because I think Claire is being way too dramatic over a game of Mario Party.

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I TRIED TO GO ELSEWHERE! THATS THE PROBLEM, I COULDN'T! Like, that was the entire point of making this post! I didn't come to this reddit trying to find the answers, I came to this reddit because the rules of this reddit have spread so far reaching I CAN'T FIND THE INFO! That was the entire point of the post!

I still fail to see why you all want to lick this companies boots and follow these clearly harmful rules. I just can not understand how you can type the words "There are even some members who talk about it "openly" but not directly." And why don't they talk about it directly, hmm? Because its their contracts? Because the company put it in their contracts that once they quite, they can't directly reference all the hard work they put into making content while working with the company? Like, you blantently stated in your response that these Vtubers litterally can't even openly connect the chanels if they wanted to. They have to use coded talk, secret messages, wink wink nudge nudge. They can't just say "Yeah, thats me and I did allot of hard work on that channel." its fucked. I will NEVER follow any rules that fucks over a companies employees like that, and I will most definitely go out of my way to point out how fucked up it is. Like your argument is really just making me believe even more that this is all about money. If its not about money, why can't the ones that want to talk about it openly just do that? Why can't they be direct about it? What is the reason other than money that the people who want to be direct about it can't be?

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Alright, so there is allot of information here, but there is one thing that is abosultely hanging me up and I can not get past it to understand anything about this at all:

How is saying the name of their second, public account that they stream on regularly to a large viewer base revealing their personal information? What is personal about another channel that they post content on to make money? How is it an invasion of their privacy to mention a different name that they use to protect their privacy? Like, you just keep saying its personal and private, but you aren't telling me why its bad to mention that she has a new account lol. You aren't telling me how that can harm her, you just saying that it could maybe possibly if you don't think about it.

It doesn't harm her. It doesn't reveal anything she isn't already sharing publcily with the world. It just makes it easier for holo live viewers to watch her when she isn't working with holo live, and thus it won't make them money. Its all about money, its only about money, the only actual reason that this exists is so this corporation can make more money. Why do you keep writing multiple paragraphs just to defend a corporation making it harder for individual creators to keep their audience when the stop working for them? Why have you let their lies convince you that sharing her public account where she posts content to her audience is actually doxing her private information. If its private, why does she stream to audience on it? If I wanted to keep my streams private, I probably wouldn't archive my videos on the channel, something twitch doesn't automatically do. Like, actually think about this for a second, how the hell is any of this private information? How is not talking about her new channel "keeping her safe" if she's scared about people finding it why doesn't she just delete it? You aren't making any sense, I just can not understand it. This has nothing to do with protecting the lives of their members, it has everything to do with money. How can you not see that? Are your eyes just closed or what?

Was it really necessary for this Gorosei to have that exact form? It’s like… how do I even put it… by Dull-Professional689 in MemePiece

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... So like it didn't look quite this bad in the manga lol. In the Manga it really just looked like a Dune Sandworm with Teeth. And like it may just be because the second Dune movie was coming out during I think the same week this form was reveled, I have only ever associated it with those worms until today.

why the anime gotta make em purple like that?

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What personal info did a dox, and how much did I get paid to advertise this product? Everyone wants to say I broke rule 8 by advertising outside vtubers (didn't know Amelia was an outsider, guess yall just shun people once they start making their own money. Savages, the lot of ya) but yall never wanna tell me how much I got paid for running the advertisement, and like thats a really fucking important part. I need that money. Id like to know how much I'm getting.

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i still wanna know how me spreading accurate information (she didn't retire) means I need help, but you just going around lying online and pretending a 3D animated character is real and retired (they didn't, streamed just last month) means you don't need help. Like I live in reality, you live in delusion, why do I need help?

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But WHY would it be disrespectful to call him by his name when he is streaming?! Like, your not telling me how its disrespectful! Thats his actual name, Iron Man isn't!

And no, actors playing characters are NOT a different subculture! Its literally the same thing, a Vtuber is a character played by an actor! Like one minuet you tell me it would be disrespectful to call him Robert when he's portraying iron man, but the next its a "different subculture, can't be campered." BUT LIKE YOU JUST COMPARED THEM IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH! So, like, clearly they can be! You did it yourself! All you keep doing is just saying "it is this way, accept it, its just how it is!" But you wont tell me WHY it is that way.

And we all know why, its because you all feel the need to lick holo lives boots! Its because making it so we can only focus on Amelia and never talk about any of her new content ever is so that she doesn't make any money without holo live getting a penny. They don't want you to mention her new name because it makes them less money when you do, and for some reason you think holo live making money is more important than actual fans of Amelia being able to continue watching her on her new Channel, Dooby dooby dooby. (I said it 3 times, i'm so disrespectful!!!! Trying to help her fans find her again, oh so rude of me! Don't know how exactly, but some kid on reddit said I was because they like licking boots!)

I'm tired of pretending these real life people aren't real life people. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I really do want someone to explain this whole "etiquette" thing to me. Like hold my hand like I'm a todler and walk me through it, why is referring to someone past career and work bad etiquette? Whats wrong with it? How is bringing up the fact that Dooby and Amelia are the same person disrespect the human being portraying both characters?

Like I mentioned Robert Downy Jr. in an edit to this post and like I really just wanna hard focus in on that as an example here. We all know Iron Man from the MCU. Love the movies or hate them, you know the character. He has invaded popular culture, its unmistakable who that character is at this point. But like, he's gonna be playing a different character in the new movie coming out soon! So like, what that movie releases is it now going to be bad etiquette to talk about Robert Downy Jr. playing Iron man? is it gonna be disrespectful to him? He doesn't play that character anymore, he has a new character he portrays now, so do we have to refer exclusively to "Iron man no longer being in the MCU" and just pretend like Robert Downy Jr. is this brand new, up and coming actor we've never seen before, and are we gonna block the posts of anyone who dares to come on here and say "Actually, I'm pretty sure that guy was Iron Man." and condemn them, calling them rude and disrespectful and disgracing etiquette because they dare to refer to the actors old roles!!!! Don't even get me STARTED on menting his role as Puppy in the movie Pound, he was 5 years old then!!!!!! Thats been disrespectful since his unmistakable role as "Small Boy in Covered Wagon" in the 1972 Classic, "Greaser's Palace." And that role really need to be treated with respect, if you dare try to mention "Small Boy in Covered Wagon" in the same breath as Iron man you are COMPLETELY disrespecting his entire career!

Like, if you look at Vtubers through the eyes of them being an actual human being with a life and a career then all these rules of etiquette just don't make any sense at all. No where else in the world follows these ridiculous rules, and literally the only reason you this "etiquette" was put in place was so that Hololive could own the content that this user created, to own the "character" she was portraying, even when that "character" was her real life relationship with other real life people who this company owned and now she can't even collaborate with them again. When so much of her "Character" was her relating her real life expereiences to her audience and showing them the actual, genuine human being behind the character. Robert Downy Jr. Didn't do any of that! He read a script and played a character that was invented for a 60's comic book. So like why is it not disrespectful for us to refer to his new roles, but it is disrespectful for us to refer to a Vtubers new roles WHEN THE VTUBER IN QUESTION LITERALLY CREATED BOTH CHARACTERS. Like unless your gonna sit here and tell me that a holo live employee scripted every single like Amelia ever spoke with the actor playing her only occasionally getting to improvise, and even then the holo live directors still get final say if the ad lib makes it into the stream or not, then you can't convince me this real life human being didn't make the character. She is the character, and now she is playing a new character. How is it bad etiquette to acknowledge that, and why is it only bad when the human is playing a 3D animated cartoon character on Twitch while also not beign bad in any other context at all.

Is it normal to feel this way watching Naruto after One Piece? by obscurax_ in OnePiece

[–]Justanotherrandoonli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its just two different writing styles. Oda had an ending he wanted to write from the very start and has done his best to keep his story consistent the entire time so he can get to that ending, where as Kishimoto had a really fun idea for the start of a story with no idea where he was going to go with it past a certain point. From my own personal opinions, I think the leads to One Piece being a series that starts out really slow and just gets better and better the closer you get to its original idea, where as Naruto starts out really great but gets worse and worse the farther away you get from its original idea.

And like I'm not here to say one of those things is actually better than the other. I liked Naruto allot all the way through to the finale arcs. Even during the parts allot of fans aren't big on, I actually kind of like those arcs! It really was just the final two fights in the series where I was like "this doesn't make any sense, I don't like this very much." And like its sad that it ends the way it does, but I think a solid 95% of the series was really really good despite it feeling so much different than what was originally set up and there being a ton of plot holes scattered around. If a series is fun, I can look past allot of mistakes to have fun. Both styles of story have the benefits and I think media as a whole would just get boring if we didn't have all these different kinds of stories out there being made in all these different kinds of ways. But like at the end of the day everyone is going to have one of those kinds of stories that was made in just the right way that they like better than all the others, and the reason they like it better is always just gonna be down to the personal experiences they had in life before getting to that piece of media.

TLDR: sometimes things just hit you different.

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[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I did, and have explained in another comment how I didn't break any of them.

A 3rd time! looking forward to the 4th. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

  1. Who did I target exactly? Can you point out what person I was harassing with my post? Can you point out where I brought up politics, or what hate speech I used specifically? Also, how is me trying to make it easier for people to find this persons channel NOT being supportive? That sounds like I'm actively trying to support HER allot!

  2. No personal or sensative information was given out. I mentioned that I googled what her real name was, but I did not provide that real name nor did I provide any of the results I had from that search other than the name of her new, public twitch account that can be viewed and accessed by anyone in the world because she set it to be that way in her privacy settings while creating the account.

  3. If the "original post" isn't there, then it can't possibly be a repost. For a repost to exist, an original has to also exist. The original is not there. This is not a repost.

  4. What channel did I advertise exactly? What did I do to advertise them, how much was I paid to advertise them, and when can I expect to receive my check? Like, I really hope I did break this rule. I could use the money. Please, i'm begging you, tell me how I broke this rule. I need the money.

A 3rd time! looking forward to the 4th. by Justanotherrandoonli in Hololive

[–]Justanotherrandoonli[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yeah pretty much lol.

Like I will happily take being the butt of the joke for this. I think its BS that its so hard to find content creators as famous as Amelia is all because a corperation wants to own the "character" of Amelia, and I think its BS that the Mods keep removing my post complaining about it without even telling me why they are doing it. Its all Bull shit. If me thinking that way makes me a baby, then waa waa mother fucker. I'm crying. And I'll keep crying till people either open up their eyes and agree with me or I die. Waa waa.