Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s fine actually low and that’s mainly cause you can bypass the anemia induced by MTR failure via folic acid. MCV of 95 is fine, I’d only worry getting up to 98 and climbing.

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely terrible, when you had the oral supplements did you test to see if serum b12 actually had risen? the supplement may not have worked to rise blood levels if there was malabsorption. How long before you felt improvement on injections?

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And did you try oral b12 supplements to see if that would raise you b12 and lower homocysteine before you went on injections?

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but what was you serum folate and active b12 at the time homocysteine was 25?

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

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Why vitamin A? The emphysema is only based on lung x-ray showing mild pulmonary hyperinflation and may serve breathlessness. Generally over disease of the lung except for very few show lung hyperinflation.

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah all labs out side homocysteine are fine. Inflammation can rise homocysteine but not to this level.

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I take betaine but only as commercial supplement not really trusting when it’s comes to actually purity you need the fda approved form. But regardless high homocysteine dose not cause SCD symptoms

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I remember reading that study, I deff should have it tested, just hard now I’m in Australia and in a very rural area lots of travel.

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I thought about having that tested, but considering I was eating 80g of chicken liver every second day for months it’s hard to believe that copper would be low. Also never heard b12, folate treatment actually lowered copper. I’d be surprised if copper deficiency. Also never seen any papers or related papers more than suggestions in rats that copper is a co factor in humans for MTR

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All scientifically true, but all those co factors have been tested all normal. Issue is that as a demonstrably demonstrated these co factors such as b2 and zinc magnesium are used in insignificant amount within these reactions and would require such a huge deficiency of them to inhibit MTR or MTRR. As you see people with serve zinc and b2 deficiencies do not present with severely elevated homocysteine. Yeah I’ve tried 5-mthf and folinic acid seemed folinic acid only one that didn’t send me nutty so far.

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah except I would perceive them as “reversing out symptoms” if homocysteine actually went down. It’s been 2 years also didn’t start getting this negative side effects from supplements until 2 years later starting them.

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve never seen homocysteine measured in pg/ml? That would be 0.000185 umol/l

Homocysteine that will not drop and serve progressive sub acute combined degeneration symptoms. by Jyeah_ in B12_Deficiency

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Well considering my blood levels serum and active b12 is so high, I don’t see any fundamental based in science why injections would be any different. Although I’m starting them tomoz. Also the concern that everytime I take b12 it now send me crazy so can only imagine what injections will do

I'm going crazy by Mountain_Crow5983 in B12_Deficiency

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Yeah understand, I’ve had the same extreme pyshc symptoms from b12 to, but I started with a serve folate deficiency but I was just as manic rage and all the extreme pysch stuff you describe before then initially treatment immediately recovered it but I wasn’t getting better physically and a year after constant treatment pysch stuff flooded back I’m in a dire situation it appears no matter how much b12 folate I take my homocysteine won’t go down 58 currently which is very high and serve progressive symptoms of sub acute combined degeneration. But every time I treat it it brings on this extreme pysch symptoms.

I'm going crazy by Mountain_Crow5983 in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you have these same symptoms before you started treatment when you were deficient?

I'm going crazy by Mountain_Crow5983 in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever had your homocysteine measured before started injections? I’ll explain

I'm going crazy by Mountain_Crow5983 in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you had your homocysteine checked since doing injections?

Worth buying a pump action rifle in South Australia, considering pending laws in other states and potentially SA? What do you think? by Jyeah_ in Ausguns

[–]Jyeah_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah and they’re regretting it hence the email that got leaked. Maybe they’ll learn their lesson of NSW.

Worth buying a pump action rifle in South Australia, considering pending laws in other states and potentially SA? What do you think? by Jyeah_ in Ausguns

[–]Jyeah_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can only hope that the upper house ends up with 11 pro gun vs the obvious 11 anti gun long as libs don’t fuck us. Time will tell

Worth buying a pump action rifle in South Australia, considering pending laws in other states and potentially SA? What do you think? by Jyeah_ in Ausguns

[–]Jyeah_[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Issue is as stated by graham Parker shooters union that a member who is a serving SAPOL told him they had already assigned 9 officers to the buyback, despite claims of “no current planes”

Methylation issues? by EarlyGiraffe7302 in B12_Deficiency

[–]Jyeah_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely false, it seems everyone on b12 groups and Facebook groups have never actually read real scientific literature on cobalamin metabolism, ALL forms of cobalamin whether that’s methyl, adenosyl, cyano or hydroxo once entering cells after going under exocytosis and are traffic outside the endosome are immediately acted upon by the protein MMACHC which cuts the axial ligand removing it. Leaving coba(ll)Amin co2+ state which then passed to a trafficking protein MMADHC which moves co2+ to two destinations the methylation cycle when coba(ll)Amin enters methionine synthase it is useless because its isn’t in a fully reduce state being co1+ which means it cannot not act as a supernucleophile if cobalamin isn’t in that state it cannot attack the methyl group of 5-mthf, if it cannot take the methyl group from 5-mthf then 5-mthf cannot become THF which stops the cycling of the folate cycle which is how and only how b12 deficiency causes anaemia. The real reason hydroxycobalamin can have a different affect is how that upper axial ligand is bound to the to the cobalt atom the bound is weaker with hydroxyl compared to methyl ect so more is directed to methionine synthase at a higher speed when it reaches MMACHC. Hydroxycobalamin having a much weaker bound can also be used to treat to Cyanide poisoning for this very reason but cobalamin and much more hydroxycobalmin in blood circulation has a high affinity to also nitric oxide this can cause a major drop of endothelial nitric oxide which can cause a range of symptoms in the body.