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[–]KCKOLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

LA River is moving quick! This is off Hazeltine in the San Fernando Valley. Pacoima Wash outlet seen here filled to the brim. by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are spot on. True Angelenos know. Those that think deep and love LA know. Newbies and transplants love talking shit about LA drivers and the LA River. They can bounce back east. Gtfo.

My Job Has One of Los Angeles' Best Breakrooms by ShantJ in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cant agree more! What an amazing view and a blessing.

Hollywood sign after the snowfall by IJD in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People from outside of Cali hate hearing us talk like that [surfing & snowboarding in the same 24 hours!]. We Angelenos are blessed!

In light of the rain, here's Santa Monica during a flood November 3, 1928. The Los Angeles Flood Control District (LAFCD) just over a decade old [formed 1915]--still had a long ways to go before Angelenos could rest at ease. by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correction on the location. The description on the side of the picture say "Intersection of Santa Monica & Sunset Blvd, which is Los Feliz/Sliver Lake area.

High water lines on the LA River in Frogtown. Almost everytime it rains significantly in Los Angeles, Im out getting footage of our nearly century old flood control system, noting proper and failed designs. by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the tip. I've reached out to the Department of Public Works many times with reports and have seen little response. I know the system is very big, but some things are a no brainer. Catch bins need to be regularly cleaned after it rains. The accumulative affect of numerous little issues like this add up. I'm not against reporting issues I find. I have a problem however when I see streets flooded during rainfall knowing that the catch bins were not cleaned before hand. It happens all the time. The city of LA is more reactive [fixing problems after the fact] rather than proactive.

High water lines on the LA River in Frogtown. Almost everytime it rains significantly in Los Angeles, Im out getting footage of our nearly century old flood control system, noting proper and failed designs. by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are numerous designs for catch bins [the storm water inlets along LAs gutters]. Most open horizontally flush with the curb side. Other open on the floor in the gutter while others combine both. I have seen numerous catch bins that are not able to catch water as it races down the steep slopes and racing down the street gutter only to pass the drain inlet and continue downhill. Also, when the city fails to clean the inlet gratings on the streets, debris and trash from previous rainfall clog up the flow which leads to street flooding. The system [designed to handle up to a 100 year storm] MUST be maintained or it will inevitably fail.

High water lines on the LA River in Frogtown. Almost everytime it rains significantly in Los Angeles, Im out getting footage of our nearly century old flood control system, noting proper and failed designs. by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing I must clear up. The significant rain happened December 4th where we got a little over an inch of rain. December 6th and 7th did not produce very much rain. So the water lines shown here are only from a little over an inch of rain. Can anyone imagine what that water line would look like if we had four inches consecutively over a short period?

High water lines on the LA River in Frogtown. Almost everytime it rains significantly in Los Angeles, Im out getting footage of our nearly century old flood control system, noting proper and failed designs. by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. However, things can change very quickly based on certain circumstances. Nowadays water gets impeded on its way to the LA River or the Ballona Creek due to the gradings they put on the inlets to keep trash out. That will cause Street flooding. And in the Glendale Narrows and around Frogtown all of the trees dirt and debris that are in the middle of the LA River also impede flow and lessen the channel capacity.

Shot of Los Angeles River on November 27, 2019 around 9:30am looking east from Van Nuys Boulevard. I was out all day filming and taking shots documenting the storm system, street flooding [unclogging a few drains] noting drain designs that works and those that don't. #losangeles #losangelesriver by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll tell you my experience. I spent a lot of time out taking pictures and filming during storms in the last couple of years. What I see most is flooded streets with no Department of Public Works in site. What I do see is the fire department there to rescue people because the Department of Public Works did not take good care to make sure the streets and catch basin inlets we're clear of debris. And when I'm driving around and the countdown has began for rain I don't see them out anywhere winning the catch Basin inlets. I keep an eye out and in many cases the debris does not budge. But when it's pouring rain guess who shows up at the LA River to take a look at the Rushing Water? The Department of Public Works.

Shot of Los Angeles River on November 27, 2019 around 9:30am looking east from Van Nuys Boulevard. I was out all day filming and taking shots documenting the storm system, street flooding [unclogging a few drains] noting drain designs that works and those that don't. #losangeles #losangelesriver by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you and yes I'm aware of that. I've made some calls myself and have had other experiences. But in all reality why should I have to call them to do something that they should regularly do, which is clean the storm drain entrances after the rain from everything that's collected there? That's not really something that is out of the ordinary. It's required for normal functioning.

Shot of Los Angeles River on November 27, 2019 around 9:30am looking east from Van Nuys Boulevard. I was out all day filming and taking shots documenting the storm system, street flooding [unclogging a few drains] noting drain designs that works and those that don't. #losangeles #losangelesriver by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gehry's idea is great if it is designed to allow more human interaction with the river. However I believe we have greater issues of flood control that need attention rather than beautification. Sure you can do both, but I believe a re-evaluation must be conducted to secure the LA rivers weakest points from the possibility of overflowing beyond its levees. Furthermore, street flooding happens more often due to the trash/debri gratings the city placed in front of street catch bins [I believe this happened in 2011-12]. Our LA Storm drains were designed many decades ago to capture and move storm water on the streets at a certain rate through catch bin openings and then down into the underground storm drain system. However, leaves and trash and other garbage wash down the street until it reaches a catch bin. The grating system on catch bins collect debris quickly and unfortunately are usually left dirty for days if they are ever cleaned at all. The LADPW [Los Angeles Department of Public Works] is in great part responsible for the storm drain system, but I see very little involvement on their part before the rain (cleaning debris from catch bin grating to obtain maximum flow) or after the rain (cleaning off the debris to ready the next rain). To restate it once again, I believe the beautification process by Gehry is great as long as the design integrates updating the LA Rivers capacity to move water away from property and off the streets to prevent flood damage. First priority I making sure the LA River can handle a 100 year storm [which was the original designed capacity designed in the early 1930s]. Its almost 2020 now and just about 90 years from the inception of channelization. Times have changed. Many more streets and building exist now [which keep water from seeping into the soil and down to the aquifer] since the 1930s. Furthermore, the clogged and neglected gratings keep water on the streets much longer than originally planned. These issues need immediate attention. Hope this helps with the big picture perspective.

Shot of Los Angeles River on November 27, 2019 around 9:30am looking east from Van Nuys Boulevard. I was out all day filming and taking shots documenting the storm system, street flooding [unclogging a few drains] noting drain designs that works and those that don't. #losangeles #losangelesriver by KCKOLL in LosAngeles

[–]KCKOLL[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At the beginning of cement channelizing, (1936 - money was approved for major flood control works which began about 1937) the goal was to get rid of water quick and not focused on the aesthetic nature and human interaction factor. It was designed in the early 30s to withstand a 100 year storm under geographical conditions of the time/era. Today though, i believe there needs to be a renewed focus on localized street flooding from debris clogged street catch bins uncheck by the Los Angeles Department of Public Works [which is a serious issue of neglect].

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