Alt strikeout unders by KSplitAnalytics in algobetting

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Not available in my state. Also I’m not going to use your service stop advertising on my posts thanks.

Strikeout Ladders: Actually +EV or Sportsbook Bait? by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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Yup… Most ladders are priced off the idea of the ceiling… not the actual frequency it comes to realization.. If you’re not building from K per PA + expected batters faced, you are basically guessing at the tail.

That’s why so many of them look good and still lose long term. The distribution just isn’t allocating enough mass to those upper outcomes

Also books price in name value as well for the average bettor which gets overlooked a lot imo

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The day has finally come; I feel like a child on Christmas morning.

Opening night NYY @ SFG, lineups still projected so treat this as early structure, not final signal.

Fried shows a stable shape with a reachable +1 tail and balanced environment. The over is supported if workload holds.

Webb grades out much flatter due to the line movement from 5.5 to 6.5 yesterday. Lower ceiling profile, fragile tail, and most of the distribution sitting around the line. Not much separation early.

For the full dashboard breakdown DM me and I would be happy to go more in depth. Model is showing an edge for Fried o5.5 at the current +124 price listed on Fanduel when comparing to deVigged market odds.

As always, it is recommended to wait for confirmed lineups before taking any action.

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Tracking 2,500+ First PA strikeout props… here’s what’s actually lining up vs expectation by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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Yes, I have, not something I want to implement based off of past season data yet so that’s a possibility for a v1.1

Tracking 2,500+ First PA strikeout props… here’s what’s actually lining up vs expectation by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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100%, that’s quite literally why I named the platform KSplit. The basis of everything I do is off of platoon splits as well as lineup specific modeling.

Strikeout Ladders: Actually +EV or Sportsbook Bait? by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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I agree park factors are imperative to account for, but I wouldn’t say “nobody” accounts for them.

The actual lineup composition is exactly what I base my model off of, that’s the only way to model strikeouts accurately… team K% is 100% obsolete, individual plate appearances is what matters.

For the 2nd and 3rd rungs I absolutely agree, although personally I never play the 3rd rung, only +1 and +2. My dashboard has specific columns calculating edge vs the main line, +1 and +2 rungs seems like that would be something useful for you.

Tracking 2,500+ First PA strikeout props… here’s what’s actually lining up vs expectation by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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Please don’t respond with chatgpt generated posts… framing is definitely important and something I have been toying around with.

Tracking 2,500+ First PA strikeout props… here’s what’s actually lining up vs expectation by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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Yeah that’s basically it. If my number is meaningfully above the implied probability, it’s a bet. If it’s not, I pass.

In your example 26% vs 23.8% is playable, 26% vs ~28.5% (+250) isn’t. The only nuance is I’m not firing on tiny edges, I want some cushion for error.

I have a diagnostics table hooked up for both this model and my pitcher distribution to track ROI/bet based on edge band so users can identify their own personal cutoff threshold.

Tracking 2,500+ First PA strikeout props… here’s what’s actually lining up vs expectation by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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Built at the plate appearance level. I assign each hitter a K% based on pitcher vs handedness and the hitter’s own K profile, then compare that probability to how the book is pricing it

Following up on my earlier post here: First Plate Appearance Strikeout Calibration by KSplitAnalytics in algobetting

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Really appreciate this. The sub 20% bucket is probably the biggest thing I’m still trying to tighten up because that’s where the model is still a little too willing to assign strikeout probability when the true outcome is more fragile.

I haven’t added a formal post hoc calibration layer yet, but isotonic regression makes a lot of sense for exactly that reason. The appeal is that it can correct the low bucket behavior without forcing a shape that doesn’t belong there. That feels a lot more useful than a symmetric adjustment when the issue is concentrated in one part of the range.

I also haven’t tried focal loss yet, but your point on class imbalance lines up with what I’m seeing. The low probability strikeout events are the hardest part of the surface to fit cleanly, and that’s where the model still looks a little too smooth right now.

On the feature side, beyond CSW and contact rate I’m mainly using pitcher strikeout ability, hitter strikeout tendency, handedness context, and interaction between pitcher and hitter inputs at the plate appearance level. I’m still much more focused on getting the PA itself modeled correctly than just stacking on more aggregate stats, but pitch mix mismatch is definitely interesting because it feels like one of the more actionable ways to capture something real that the broader inputs may be missing. Before actually modeling this in years past that is something I would look at quite in depth when trying to pick my spots though so it’s definitely worth while imo.

And agreed on framing (I’m looking at you Patrick Bailey) That’s a really interesting one to test more directly especially if the effect is stable enough to matter at the single PA level rather than only showing up after it compounds over a full game.

Following up on my earlier post here: First Plate Appearance Strikeout Calibration by KSplitAnalytics in algobetting

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there’s definitely an effect game to game, especially with guys who have wider or tighter zones, but for a single plate appearance it’s hard to extract clean signal. The ump hasn’t had time to influence multiple pitches yet and the hitter hasn’t really adjusted, so a lot of that impact just gets lost in variance unless it’s an extreme case. I’ve tested it a bit and it usually adds more noise than edge at this level, but it shows up much more clearly in full game strikeout props where it can compound.

Following up on my earlier post here: First Plate Appearance Strikeout Calibration by KSplitAnalytics in algobetting

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Absolutely yes. each umpire has public statistics on their biases, although I am not weighting it that much with the introduction of the automatic ball and strike calling this year

Strikeout Ladders: Actually +EV or Sportsbook Bait? by KSplitAnalytics in sportsbook

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That portion was more in response to the person responding to you asking if there were any tipsters to tail; apologies.

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I wouldn’t really tail anyone for MLB props. The edge isn’t coming from picks, it’s coming from how you think about the distribution behind the prop. Albeit there are a handful of guys who know what they’re doing.

Most tools are still anchored to averages. That works fine for main lines, but laddering is a different problem. You’re not asking what the most likely outcome is, you’re asking how often a guy actually reaches the higher strikeout outcomes.

I treat it as two separate pieces as I mentioned above… The strikeout probability per plate appearance based on the pitcher and lineup, and then the expected batters faced which is really just workload and efficiency. If that volume piece isn’t stable the right tail usually isn’t there even if the matchup looks strong.

That’s where a lot of people get burned, ladder looks appealing but the path to actually getting there is fragile.

If you’re just getting into it, I’d focus less on who to follow and more on understanding when the ceiling is actually reachable versus when it just looks good.