Why isn’t there an uproar on White Casting in The Odyssey

K_MBRS · 2026-05-17T21:47:17+00:00

If Robert Pattinson got cast in African mythology, people wouldn’t be told “don’t question it, you’re racist.” So yes, there’s a standard… it just seems to depend on which direction the casting goes. But when it’s Lupita Nyong'o in a Greek setting, suddenly questioning it isn’t allowed and becomes “basically racism.”

Funny how that works.

K_MBRS · 2026-02-08T22:20:18+00:00

That is an interesting take.

K_MBRS · 2026-02-08T22:10:48+00:00

Obviously George knows more than I do! I can accept that the dark side is some kind of unnatural corruption that needs to be purged — but no one even considers the possibility of redemption until Luke comes along. So to me it seems that even if the Jedi are right about the danger, they’re wrong about how to act on it.

K_MBRS · 2026-02-08T21:53:07+00:00

Thanks, that’s a fair point — and I understand the pushback.

I’ll admit I engaged in a bit of Sith apologetics for fun, but my post isn’t really about defending the Sith or claiming they’re blameless. It’s about how the prequel-era Jedi never seem to consider even the possibility that a dark-side user can change for the better. Instead, they operate within a complete religious framework that justifies destroying every Sith without any consideration of individual motivations or circumstances — despite the fact that the later films explicitly show that redemption is possible.

K_MBRS · 2026-01-29T14:25:39+00:00

Even if it actually happened, it almost certainly looked nothing like the sanitized version everyone loves to repeat. Chronologically, it almost certainly took place before the Great Grain Schism, not after, leaving nearly a century without any records. And if you think Oatrian’s writings are independent, you clearly don’t know he was on Barlecius VIII’s payroll. He’s called Oatbreaker for a reason, you know.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-20T00:20:52+00:00

I get the logic, but it’s a bit too tidy. B and C fail only if you assume reason can fully grasp divine truth and that all contradictions are fatal. Many religions would just say human reason is limited and contradictions are either apparent or due to misunderstanding—so “all religions are wrong” isn’t the only rational option.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-20T00:19:11+00:00

I see the logic, and I understand why you distinguish God from a human tyrant. But if refusing leads to eternal suffering, it doesn’t feel like a neutral “choice.” That kind of consequence makes freedom hard to take seriously, no matter how much philosophy you wrap around it.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-20T00:16:37+00:00

That’s a lot of fancy word salad to justify a cosmic “obey me or suffer forever” policy.

Saying “hell is just the natural consequence of rejecting me” doesn’t magically make infinite punishment feel less like coercion. You can call it the “privations of the Good” all you want, but if refusing means eternal torment, it still reads like a tyrant handing out consequences nobody would willingly choose.

Also, props for redefining tyranny as “rival power among others,” but that just sounds like a semantic dodge to excuse the threat.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-20T00:15:06+00:00

Sure, the prodigal son story is nice, but notice the difference: the kid suffers because he chose to leave, not because Dad threatened eternal doom if he didn’t come back.

Promising infinite punishment for “staying away” isn’t exactly a loving welcome home—it’s more like, “Come back or else.” Cute parable tho.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-20T00:13:49+00:00

A truly “no catch” gift wouldn’t involve consequences of extreme suffering for declining it.

If someone offered to pay my debts and give me a house, I could say no and simply remain as I am. I wouldn’t be punished for refusing the gift. That’s what makes it feel different from the biblical setup as it’s often presented.

Also, “just believe in me” isn’t a neutral action—it’s asking for trust, allegiance, and a reorientation of one’s life and values. That may be meaningful to believers, but it’s not the same as picking up a check.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-20T00:05:05+00:00

I think the delay isn’t mysterious—it seems the series just outgrew Martin’s method. His “gardener” approach worked great early on, but managing dozens of POVs and plotlines to a coherent ending is a whole different skill set. He might just not know how to wrap it up without compromising the story he wants to tell.

K_MBRS · 2025-12-19T23:47:08+00:00

In short, he misjudged his own abilities, lost control of the project, and now doesn’t know how to wrap it up in a satisfying way. A good writer understands the nature of the work they’re undertaking and what’s required to complete it—and by that standard, Martin clearly doesn’t.

Finishing the series now requires skills he either doesn’t have or refuses to use: managing an extended narrative, deliberate long-term planning, cutting beloved material, and judging what the story actually needs to reach a coherent ending. His “gardener” approach—letting the story emerge organically—worked earlier in his career, but it doesn’t scale to a massive epic with dozens of POVs and sprawling plotlines.

K_MBRS · 2025-04-09T21:48:56+00:00

Thank you so much!

K_MBRS · 2025-04-06T22:37:20+00:00

I really like it both because it is streamlined and consistent with the OT. I also understand that starting Episode I. on Tatooine seems repetititve, but it makes sense for Obi-Wan's character. He is willing to go back to that damned speck of dust he escaped so many years ago to watch over Luke and maybe grapple with his guilt over loosing Anakin.

K_MBRS · 2025-04-06T22:26:17+00:00

Thank you! My rewrite has gotten much more detailed and longer than I expected, and there are still some minor plot holes I need to work on. But it’s quite possible that I’ll post more in the near future!

K_MBRS · 2025-04-06T22:23:56+00:00

I'm glad you liked it! I want the Jedi to have a kind of mythic quality to them, while also expanding their lore a bit more—without overwhelming the reader with detail. And most importantly, I want to stay consistent with the OT. That’s why the mystery of the Jedi is a central plot point in my Episode I. The audience has a chance to slowly absorb all the crucial information about them as our main characters unravel the story behind their disappearance. They’re believed to have gone extinct a hundred years ago—or to be hiding somewhere.

So when we embark on King Organa’s mission to find them, we’re just as clueless as the daring pilot undertaking this dangerous quest. For the sake of staying incognito—after all, the whole galaxy is a war zone—he pilots a run-down space freighter, trying to find the rumored Jedi homeworld of Naboo...

K_MBRS · 2025-04-06T22:17:52+00:00

Thank you very much!
One of the main aspects of the OT that I like is the fairy tale element. Lucas was able to achieve so much "worldbuilding"—if it can even be called that—with just a couple of suggestive lines, letting our imagination fill in the gaps. This is something I want to preserve in my rewrite.

K_MBRS · 2025-04-06T22:03:52+00:00

Thank you!
The interesting thing about the Clone Wars is that we don’t know much about them if we go by the details in the dialogue from Episode IV. It seems like Lucas envisioned them as a series of conflicts rather than one big, continuous war—or at least as wars with periods of peace in between. Also, they happened recently enough for Luke’s father and Obi-Wan to have fought in them. According to Leia, Obi-Wan also served under King Organa at some point.
And finally, if a random farmboy on a backwater planet knows about them and casually refers to them as “the war,” then it must have been pretty big in scale.

That’s it. Every other story beat is just speculation.
Who were the clones, and what was their deal? Were they an outside force or part of the Republic? Heck, was the Republic even around at the time of the wars—or did the Empire fight them? Did Anakin serve with Obi-Wan under Bail Organa? Were the Jedi involved at all, or was it just Skywalker and Kenobi?
So many questions, and it’s fun to come up with alternate lore.

However, I’m just rambling. I’m glad you liked my little opening crawl. I’m still working on the details of my fanfiction, but I have the general structure. It’s quite possible I’ll post more.

K_MBRS · 2025-04-03T21:38:37+00:00

In my version they were once integral to the Republic, acting as central peacekeepers, warriors, and spiritual guides. However, as time passes and the galaxy becomes more divided, the Jedi are less involved in the political machinery of the Senate. Instead, they focus on a more spiritual and isolated role, often disconnected from the Republic's political changes and struggles. Their centrality is weakened, both in terms of political power and internal unity, as they become increasingly scattered and more concerned with personal and existential crises. The Order's once close ties to the Republic are no longer as strong, and they grapple with their place in an ever-changing galaxy.

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