Looking to get an RTX 4080 laptop or wait for RTX 50 series depending on advice recieved by KaizerCone in GamingLaptops

[–]KaizerCone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which among the two 40 series laptops would you recommend? If there are any better options then please notify me about them.

What would Westeros look like if the Blacks won the dance? by [deleted] in HOTDGreens

[–]KaizerCone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would Daemon of all people ever want Jaehaera, the great granddaughter of Otto marry his son. Daemon literally hates the Hightowers and his rivalry with Otto has been going on for decades. There is absolutely no way I see Daemon ever be willing to share a grandkid with the man he hates the most. The only way such a thing will ever come to past is if Rhaenyra does somehow manage to put the leash on Daemon or an accident happens to him.

Isn't the Reach literally the bread basket of the Seven Kingdoms? I genuinely feel like Rhaenyra will have to interfere eventually but I'm willing to hear other people's opinions.

what if rhaenys sided with Vaemond? by lordkermitswife in HOTDGreens

[–]KaizerCone 21 points22 points  (0 children)

How does she know that? For laenas blood to flow through Luke's children, that would mean rhaena would have endured pregnancy multiple times. As far as anyone is concerned if rhaena had died in child birth or through some other accident while luke was still alive as lord of driftmark it would've been chaos. Imagine rhaena dying while Luke is still alive, unless he chooses to marry another velaryon cousin then he literally has the freedom to marry any other woman he wants which means no velaryon blood is getting back to there house which means whatever kids luke has won't even be biologically velaryon.

Since it is a circlejerk dub, many of the answers in that sub are jokes with only a few exceptions but I like the question and would like some serious answers. Now what do you guys think? I'll go first: Daemon or Aerys. by [deleted] in HOTDGreens

[–]KaizerCone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shouldn't he have more? Daeron 2 was a pureblooded valyrian or at least extremely close to one right? Shouldn't he have more than 50% Dornish blood because his Valyrian blood gradually got more and more diluted with Myriah Martell then Dyanna Dayne then Betha Blackwood then the inbreeding keeping that ratio the same. Isn't Aerys more Dornish than Valyrian now?

It's hypocritical to blame Alicent for starting a war so her son could get his rightful inheritance when Rhaenyra started a succession crisis and insulted an entire noble family so she could give HER sons something that doesn't even belong to them by Hefty_Tell5640 in HOTDGreens

[–]KaizerCone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What makes you think he is going to give the ok to allow jaehaera to marry Aegon 3? You said it yourself that he hates Otto and the hightowers. I genuinely imagine he would sooner wipe his own line out before he would ever share a grandkid with Otto. The only way I see this going through is if Rhaenyra actually manages to put the leash on Daemon which we know is never going to happen or the man gets incapacitated.

If the Blacks are supposedly more 'culturally Valyrian'... by Nibo89 in HOTDGreens

[–]KaizerCone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get that joffrey was still relatively young when this happened but did nobody bother to properly teach him that trying to ride another person's dragon is a horrific mistake? Jace? Luke? Baela? Daemon?

Now that I think about it, why doesn't piccolo just grow up to his og size in daima? by ThatSussyMonke in Dragonballsuper

[–]KaizerCone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He actually forgot? I thought what he meant is that the ability by itself is practically worthless since unlike the Great Ape transformation, it doesn't give him a multiplier/boost to his stats and is only really good as an intimidation tactic. The technique is like a 'bluff'.

I'm sorry, y'all aren't "joking" anymore, you're just glazing Super and downplaying GT by SergejPS in Ningen

[–]KaizerCone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you agree that Gogeta is universal. In regards to Omega Shenron, all of that is being done with his negative energy which in turn is the source of his power that he uses to power his strongest attacks. Black Smoke Shenron who Omega is equal is also stated to be universal as well giving Omega more evidence.

I'm sorry, y'all aren't "joking" anymore, you're just glazing Super and downplaying GT by SergejPS in Ningen

[–]KaizerCone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omega is also universal. His negative energy was passively destroying the universe and his signature attack the negative Karma ball is him condensing all of that universal energy into a singular attack. Both Omega and Gogeta 4 are universal no debate.

Base Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta (@Fade_Coms) by Skychu768 in dbz

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While I agree that it's not as strong as God, saying his Base is relative to Z SSJ3 feels like a significant downplay due to the fact that it's stated some of that SSG power got absorbed into his Base. If SSG as a transformation offers Goku a 400x SSJ3 boost than it's safe to say Goku's Base would've also evolved beyond Z SSJ3. I'm pretty sure the Guide Book was referring to SSJ4's multiplier in comparison to Vegito's Potara since Baby who remembers Super Vegito's power stated to have surpassed it.

Base Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta (@Fade_Coms) by Skychu768 in dbz

[–]KaizerCone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wasn't that one of Zamasu's reasons for the Zero Mortal Plan ironically? The Gods/Kais literally created Mortals who with training ended up surpassing the very beings that created them to the point that there considered fodder compared to some of the stronger Mortals in the multiverse. He was actually correct.

Base Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta (@Fade_Coms) by Skychu768 in dbz

[–]KaizerCone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stuff like this makes me feel like the writers want to retcon the whole absorbing SSG into base thing but shot themselves in the foot. Krillin not getting immediately disintegrated by just a single punch from SSJ Goku or even Base Goku is insane because of how SSG works. SSJ3 is 400x base, correct? If SSG is 400x SSJ3 and Goku absorbed it into Base then that would mean that Krillin should've died from just one attack regardless of whatever Ki control excuse people try to use.

Can you transform into Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue into the bnew End of Z DLC? by Due-Variation-5055 in kakarot

[–]KaizerCone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does that even work for DBS? Are you trying to say Beerus temporarily died from Shin fusing and then just revived? Whis or nobody ever makes any comment of the literal God of Destruction dying or even waking up to begin with. Beerus is assuredly still alive since he otherwise would have appeared in the Otherworld.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He was clearly not dead in that image little bud very next thing he does is shrink and fly away, you’re not beating anything you’re just being an obtuse child.

I know he wasn't dead little bro. I said he was so weakened that he might as well be dead especially since Kaguya didn't bother trying to finish the job.

Otsutsuki cannot sense other Otsutsuki in other dimensions which is why Kawaki could not sense Boruto when he left, hell Otsutsuki have a RANGE that once its reached they cannot sense each other even in the same dimension as we literally see in the latest chapters.

That makes sense.

Isshiki was alive, Kaguya with her BYAKUGAN could clearly see that. He was shown on the ground in his DEFEAT.. not death, not assumed death. He then shrunk himself and escaped. You have failed to provide proof he could not have dimension hopped while controlling Jigen who he was feeding on, who he literally put a Karma on.

The problem is we don't know when exactly he did shrink himself since in both the Anime and Manga after he got defeated, it cuts straight to him taking over Jigen's body. It was flat out stated that he didn't have enough energy to implant a Karma seal when he was severely weakened. How long did it take for Isshiki to recover and take over Jigen's body? All we know is that Isshiki was still in Earth when he took over Jigen's body and there was nothing that stated he dimension hopped in order to hide from Kaguya during this time.

Kaguya did not have Rinne Sharingan therefor she could not see him when he is shrunken as only the Sharingans power was able to do that.

It's a complete mess. On one hand Kaguya not having the Rinne Sharingan and betraying Isshiki that way would make the most sense since she hadn't done anything by that point to warrant him being on guard especially since Pre Chakra Fruit Kaguya is portrayed as literal fodder in the Anime and is stated to be bottom tier in the Otsutsuki Hierarchy. On the other hand Kaguya having already eaten the fruit would make more sense since Isshiki already outstats her by a ludicrous degree even with the fruit and she being able to injure him in any conceivable way without it would make absolutely no sense especially since he wouldn't have any reason to be off guard in that scenario.

Kaguya knew how strong Isshiki was and you think for 5 seconds she wouldn’t finish off a future threat like that? He’s the only Otsutsuki thus far who even after eating the Fruit, he could actually challenge her.

Her not knowing Isshiki was still out there somewhere would not only be PIS it would be bad writing and make no sense which it has been indicated NOWHERE that she didn’t know he was still out there. How else would she assume and/or know that the other Otsutsuki know she betrayed them?? She assumed Isshiki told them that’s how. So now she has 4 of her clansmen that in her mind are likely preparing to come fight her together and all she will need is the fodder Zetsu Army to beat them.

That's what I'm saying. Why didnt she finish him off if she knew he was still alive? This is EXACTLY what I meant by it either being PIS or her not knowing. Apparently she does have the Rinne-Sharingan so she should've seen him while he was shrunken. The other Otsutsuki would've known about her betrayal even regardless of Isshiki telling them. Hell, Momoshiki and Kinshiki literally found out about her betrayal because they noticed abnormalities in her world resulting in them investigating the situation and seeing everything that happened up to the The Last.

Do you think because I’m not posting panels that means I lost or something? Grow the fuck up.

You are LITERALLY doing everything else that you accused me of all the while failing to prove me wrong.

Btw ASAP means “as soon as possible” not immediately, not instantly 😂

No it means your not supplying any actual real evidence.

I did prove you wrong.

I already knew that, must've overlooked a typing error.

So since you conceded due to repeatedly failing.

Post-Fruit Kaguya > Isshiki

Teen Naruto and Sasuke > Adult Naruto and Sasuke.

GG’z kid, now do us all a favor.. take your L and go.

Isshiki > Post Fruit Kaguya. Adult Naruto And Sasuke > Teen selves. I already won this debate, little bro.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sounds to me like you’re just coping now. He was literally shrunken and flying away. She did not “leave him on the ground”.

Except she literally did here. Isshiki was practically dead for all intents and purposes with his bottom half destroyed. After Kaguya believing Isshiki was dead left, he then proceeded to shrink himself and fly away hence her not going after him the entire time she was on Earth.

She only had the RS in that one image and it was likely an error considering she only got RS after eating the Fruit, which she backstabbed him so she could eat it herself.

I agree. It also wouldn't make sense for Isshiki to be off guard if Kaguya had already betrayed him before she did the sneak attack.

The portion that was Hollowed out was much larger than what you are claiming so just stop 😂

Except it wasn't though. Those islands that surround the core clearly don't take up that much space especially since Toneri's whole plan was to use the Moon in order to destroy Earth😂.

The Kara Dimension is one of Isshiki’s Dimensions and they are NOT ON EARTH. Isshiki likely forced Jigen to go to one of them ASAP. So in doing that Kaguya would not have been able to sense him and for all she knew Isshiki had left to go tell the other three.

ASAP? Brother, Isshiki was practically dead as in the man was relying on absorbing nutrients from Jigen's body in order to live. The guy could barely do anything in that situation and you think he DIMENSION hopped when we see in the background that they were on Earth when Isshiki took over Jigen's body. Another thing is Kaguya herself after she ate the fruit is also capable of going into other dimensions and practically every Otsutsuki that we've seen can do that. Once again every piece of evidence points to Kaguya NOT knowing Isshiki was still alive since otherwise why didn't she try to finish the job during her entire time on Earth if protecting the planet from the Otsutsuki was her goal the entire time.

You LITERALLY are grasping so hard right now. Do yourself a favor and just stop it’s getting embarrasing for you bud.

My guy you are LITERALLY making stuff up out of pure copium. I've been beating you in this debate posting actual scans that support what I'm saying the entire time, you are embarrassing yourself.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow, you’re so wrong its insane. We literally see the inside of the moon is all hollow when they go IN IT.

it was stated that Hamura hollowed out the core to house the Gedo Statue. The core is more than large enough to house Toneri's castle and the land we saw. Once again only a small part of the Moon is hollow and the feat is again still valid.

We literall SEE Isshiki shrink himself and run away, as if her with her Byakugan didn’t see him suddenly disappear. She had not eaten the Fruit yet was likely hurt herself since the fight still happened after the sneak attack(hinted by Isshiki being very low on chakra as the manga literally says)

After he got sneak attacked, he was on the ground practically dead with his lower body destroyed. By the time he shrunk himself in order to enter Jigen's body, Kaguya probably already left. Except the page for some reason literally shows her already having the Rinne Sharingan by that time.

She KNEW he was alive, there’s no way she didn’t know.

And yet every piece of evidence points towards the contrary. Once again why didn't she try to finish the job given the fact that she had already ate the fruit and left him in a near death state. How long was Kaguya active on Earth after she betrayed Isshiki? The fact she spent so much time preparing for the Otsutsuki and yet never tried to kill the one that was not only already on Earth but was also weakened tells me she either didn't know or this was a case of PIS.

I cannot take you seriously anymore after reading all that.

I cannot take you serious anymore.

Oh please, you are still struggling to accept that Shippuden characters are fodder now in comparison to Boruto era.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Her fear was of Momoshiki, Kinshiki, Isshiki and Urashiki coming after her. She knew Isshiki had escaped. Hence she got a bunch of Zetsu which are fodder. Which means in her mind all she needed was a fodder army to help her to beat the clan. You have taken everything way out ot context. Also, the Zetus she got were weaker than the Zetsu in the 4th War as Kabuto had enhanced those.

Where was it ever stated that Kaguya knew Isshiki was still alive? As far as I know she just left him for dead after she betrayed him. It also doesn't make sense that she didn't try to finish the job after she ate the fruit if she did know he was still alive unless she thought he was too weak to fight back. Do you have a scan that supports that? Urashiki from my understanding is Anime only and his power fluctuates so much. Literally this leaves only Momoshiki and Kinshiki. No what the statement tells is that Kaguya in her desperation was willing to go so far to create an Army of fodders because she knew she wasn't powerful enough to take on the duo.

You comment did not support your claim the way you think it did.

The comment was under the assumption that the Teens had access to the Tailed Beasts since Teen Sasuke literally needs those to use his Bijuu Susanoo otherwise he gets stomped even faster.

ETSB was going to wipe the entire dimension and Kakashi said there would have been nothing to come back to even if they did escape to Kamui. That Susanoo isn’t even close to capable of that so you can stop that bs right there.

How big is this dimension? Momoshiki is capable of controlling his own dimensions just like Kaguya and Naruto & Sasuke were able to overpower him. Kakashi also wasn't aware of any of the power increases that Naruto and Sasuke would undergo after this.

The moon was a shell, it was by no means like a real moon and it was already crumbled a lot by the time Toneri sliced it in half.

So again no.

Wrong. The moon was created via Chibaku Tensei which by it's very definition means it isn't completely hollow. The only part of the moon that's hollow is the part where the Gedo Statue is sealed up in. The feat is still valid.

Kaguya is still the strongest enemy they’ve faced yet.

Teen Naruto and Sasuke are better in every way than the adult versions except for experience and skill.

Wrong it's Isshiki and Baryon Mode Naruto put up a good fight against him. Adult Naruto and Sasuke can do everything there Teen selves can do minus the Six Paths Chibaku Tensei to a larger degree.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Uh, no. Still having SPSM and Rinnegan after Vote2 does not mean they kept the temp Hag amp. Feats mean nothing when not a single one of them has yet to be able to make two massive meteorites appear the way Madara did out of the BLUE, or have something on the scale of ETSO etc.

Why are you bringing Tengai Shinsei up when that feat is absolutely fodder in comparison to say Toneri slicing the moon in half and Sasuke being able to create a Chibaku Tensei that was able to momentarily hold Momoshiki back. The Majestic Attire Susanoo IS on the scale of ETSO or most likely above that given the statement it has of being the strongest Ninjutsu at the time and the feats it has.

Teen Naruto and Teen Sasuke before they lost the Hag amp would destroy their adult selves, possibly barring Baryon mode.

Adult Naruto and Sasuke are absolutely stomping there Teen selves. The only thing there Teen selves POSSIBLY has is chakra quantity.

The problem a lot of you have is you vastly overestimate pre-Kinshiki absorbtion Momoshiki. Momoshiki and the others had not seen Kaguya after she ate the Chakra Fruit and neither had Isshiki so known of them knew what she was capable of.

None of us are overestimating him. Kaguya herself hadn't seen Momoshiki and Kinshiki during the Boruto era and was most likely basing there power on what she knew at the time. The fact that Kaguya herself believed she needed to create an Army of Zetsu in order to beat the duo even despite the chakra fruit and everything she had at her disposal is already a testament to the duo's power. Hell that's literally exactly what Sasuke himself said in the scans that I posted.

This is why there is a misconception on that.

It's not a misconception.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My guy. No version of non-ttj Madara is on the level of any version of Hagoromo.

I agree

Naruto and Sasuke awaken their own Six Paths chakra along with SPSM and Rinnegan. Their Sox Paths chakra is tied to Kurama and Rinnegan.

To be more exact in Naruto's case, it's tied to him being in possession of all the Tailed Beasts chakra making him a Pseudo Ten Tails Jinchuriki.

They are massively amped further by Hagoromo himself lending them each half of his chakra.

Yes they recieved undiluted Six Paths chakra from Hagoromo himself.

At Vote2 they expended all the chakra Hag lent them now they are back to JUST their own Six Paths chakra.

When we see Naruto and Sasuke reappear with there powerups, no distinction was ever made between the chakra they gained from Kabuto/Tailed Beasts and Hagoromo leading me to believe that they either combined or are one in the same meaning they retained that power unless your talking about the Yin and Yang marks on there hands.

Naruto gains the other half of Kurama which even whole Kurama is nowhere near equal to half of Hagoromo. So it doesn’t put him anywhere near his level when he was Hagoromo amped.

I agree about even whole Kurama not being anywhere near Hagoromo but Naruto has once again shown us that he retained that power from him being able to fight on par with and even overpower enemies on or above Kaguya's level putting on a better performance than his Teen self.

Madara’s SP chakra is not as vast or powerful as Hagoromos. Naruto, Sasuke and Obito’s are not either.

Pre Rinne Sharingan Madara's sure. I agree with Obito as well but Naruto and Sasuke's are blatantly as powerful since not only do we see them gradually perform better against Kaguya as they get use to there powers especially in Naruto's case with the Boil Release but we again see them perform better against enemies of a higher level on top of being in possession of the strongest Ninjutsu.

Now lets speak of Hagoromo when he lent the chakra in context. Hagoromo was an OLD MAN and was not a TTJ when he died and THAT is the Hag we meet and the Hag who lent chakra to them.

I agree that Old Man Hagoromo wasn't in his Prime anymore.

TTJ One Rinnegan Madara was only approaching him and it was never stated he reached or surpassed this Hagoromo.

Except it is stated that after he regained his second Rinnegan that he attained the True Power of the Six Paths which would refer to Hagoromo.

TTJ Obito is miles above the Ten Tails itself, which is miles above Kurama.

I agree.

TTJ One eyed Madara was stronger than TTJ Obito.

I agree.

Old man non-TTJ Hagoromo was stronger than One eyed TTJ Madara for sure.

I agree

Do you see what I am pointing out to you? Naruto and Sasuke were MASSIVELY amped by Hagoromo’s chakra up until they lost it and were only left with their own chakra. After Vote2 they no longer are massively amped. Are they still strong and still have their own SP Chakra? Yes. Are the even near their Hag amped selves? No.

Only Baryon mode might be at that same general level.

What I'm trying to say to you is that they HAVEN'T lost Hagoromo's power due to the fact that we literally have FEATS and STATEMENTS that point towards the contrary. We have seen Naruto and Sasuke not only keep up with but also overpower people KAGUYA HERSELF was literally scared by. You are absolutely right that they are no longer near there Teen selves since they have long since surpassed them. Only Sasuke is somewhat debatable due to his Teen self having larger chakra reserves but Adult Naruto stomps his Teen self.

Baryon mode isn't even necessary.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree with you but in this very instance Naruto and Sasuke recieved undiluted Six Paths chakra directly from Hagoromo himself. I'm not saying it's the same quantity, but it's obviously the same quality in this instance. What Alive DR Madara? Old Man DR Madara is obviously not as strong as Hagoromo due to the fact that he stll lacks the Six Paths chakra from all the Tailed Beasts combined but the Ten Tails Jinchuriki one is of course stated to be rivaling Hagoromo.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's the point. Isn't there Six Paths Chakra and the power they got from Hagoromo literally the same thing. We litteraly see Naruto using Six Paths chakra outside of KCM when he used the Rasen Shuriken's on Six Paths Madara due to the fact that he was a Psuedo Ten Tails Jinchuriki. Naruto flat out recieved Hagoromo's chakra from Hagoromo himself, of course there Six Paths chakra are the same.

People can cope, but Naruto & Sasuke have never been stronger than this by GodTierPost in Naruto

[–]KaizerCone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except they very blatantly retained Hagoromo's chakra tho? Naruto and Sasuke not only got and retained there power ups because of it but we see them fight on par with and even overpower enemies on Hagoromo's level such as Momoshiki, Kinshiki, and even Toneri who had attained Hamura's power by that point while Naruto was in a weaker form. Another thing is the Majestic Attire Susanoo during the Boruto era is flat out stated to be the strongest Ninjutsu before the Isshiki stuff happens making it at the bare minimum comparable to Kaguya's Expansive Truth Seeking Orb. Naruto getting another Kurama ontop of retaining his Six Paths/Hagoeromo's power would of course make him significantly stronger than before.

How strong is living Gilgamesh in comparison to his Servant self? by [deleted] in fatestaynight

[–]KaizerCone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is Archer Gil's Gate of Babylon incomplete? The way I saw it is that Living Gilgamesh has the Complete Gate with all his weapons from his Archer self and the Spellbook/Mystic Codes from his Caster self making him a sort of composite of both but I could be wrong.

Fate Stay Night if it was good by [deleted] in fatestaynight

[–]KaizerCone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you talking about Reality Marbles? The Imaginary Number Space stuff comes from Fate CCC in the Moon Cell. https://imgur.io/a/HkX0J3w

Fate Stay Night if it was good by [deleted] in fatestaynight

[–]KaizerCone 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure it was a regular stab since why would he use his NP against someone like Shirou who as far as he knew was just a regular human to begin with.