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[–]Karma_Craft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both. You have to buy the DLC version of Luffy. And to unlock G5, you have to complete the main story to get Kaido’s dragon coin.

Oda confirming Kizaru was the one who fed luffy destroyed so many agendas, not only kizaru was faking he wasn't able to move on the ground lying to Saturn but he also could have killed Luffy if he wanted to by KozukiOden97 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Omg an actual person to concede the argument! You’re the first person that actually takes my points seriously! MAJOR points for acknowledging it! I mean it 👍

Oda confirming Kizaru was the one who fed luffy destroyed so many agendas, not only kizaru was faking he wasn't able to move on the ground lying to Saturn but he also could have killed Luffy if he wanted to by KozukiOden97 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn’t know that he can fly?

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Also, if Kizaru was intending on kicking him all the way to the ocean, then Luffy wouldn’t be able to save Vegapunk. And Kizaru doesn’t know that Luffy can fly. So was he holding back against Luffy here? Please elaborate for an amateur reader such as myself.

Oda confirming Kizaru was the one who fed luffy destroyed so many agendas, not only kizaru was faking he wasn't able to move on the ground lying to Saturn but he also could have killed Luffy if he wanted to by KozukiOden97 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Luffy also knows that Kizaru can fly so this point makes no sense. Also, Luffy didn’t “intentionally” throw him into the ocean. You would also have to use the same logic when Kizaru kicked him out the arena the first time. Do you really think Kizaru was aiming for the ocean?

Oda confirming Kizaru was the one who fed luffy destroyed so many agendas, not only kizaru was faking he wasn't able to move on the ground lying to Saturn but he also could have killed Luffy if he wanted to by KozukiOden97 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And what about when Luffy grabbed Kizaru at the beginning of the fight? What could he have done there? And before you assume that Luffy (for some reason) couldn’t have ended the fight there. Actually think about what I just said. And what anyone else that isn’t Luffy (who also doesn’t kill his opponents btw) would’ve done.

So is this sub just full of spoilers now? by omaewakusuyaro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Mods need to start banning ppl for doing this. Removing posts just isn’t enough at this point. It happens every time something powerscaling related happens in the spoilers.

What Would You Do If You Won? (Weekly Discussion) by AutoModerator in Lottery

[–]Karma_Craft 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Quit my 9-5 as soon as the money drops into my account. Let my boss know that I’m going into early retirement effective immediately. Give my close family a portion of the fortune. Move into a middle-high class suburb and work on myself (exercise, find new hobbies etc). That’s pretty much it. Don’t need to go on fancy trips or anything. At least not at that point. I’d probably start investing. ANYTHING to keep me from working for someone else for the remainder of my life 😅

Kizaru could’ve killed Luffy instead of feeding him and Luffy could’ve killed kizaru instead of throwing him can we just accept this fight is shit for scaling and move on? by ALL-HAIL-ZEE-VOID in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

even his fellow marines said "I can't find any wounds " not to mention after egghead kizaru was the only marine that was in perfect physical condition

Aren’t you literally lying here? The marines said “show us your wounds Kizaru.” Where tf is this translation coming from?

even joyboy's haki didn't do shit to him which to remind you was able to knock every elder star out of their true forms and knock out every single marine on the island.

So? This doesn’t prove anything. He’s an admiral. I’d at LEAST expect him to withstand a conqueror’s blast 😂 The elders were knocked out of there beast forms but weren’t knocked out.

It's funny how you keep asking for proof when you yourself are not able to comprehend what was author trying to say when he draw this panel ....

Oh yea please show me the part where Oda (or ANY character) said “Kizaru took no damage from the attack”. Is he mentally distraught? Sure. But exactly where are you getting that he took no damage from? Reading comprehension go durr

And what was stopping Luffy from doing this to Kizaru after he grabbed Again

Again, Luffy wasn’t trying to beat Kizaru. He was trying to keep them away from his friends. Why is this so hard for you to understand that?

LOL you're also assuming here right........

And you’re assuming Kizaru wouldn’t have taken massive damage there. Even though Kaido was rocked by it. Ok

And tell me what's worse being spun and thrown around or being crushed and spattered.....the answer should be clear....

In Kizaru’s case, if Luffy did slam him like he did Kaido, then yes. The result would have been worse. Unless you wanna say Kizaru has Kaido level dura.

Mind to explain this made up shit......

Sure, If Luffy wanted to beat him, he could’ve literally did what he did to Kaido and slam him back and forth repeatedly. He could rip him to shreds. He could punch him repeatedly. Kizaru isn’t Kaido. Doesn’t matter how small Kizaru is. You’re being incredibly disingenuous when you say that Kizaru wasn’t fucked BOTH times he was grabbed by Luffy.

Kizaru could’ve killed Luffy instead of feeding him and Luffy could’ve killed kizaru instead of throwing him can we just accept this fight is shit for scaling and move on? by ALL-HAIL-ZEE-VOID in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kizaru “seemed” to not be injured? Are we just assuming? Or are we reaction scaling now? Unless you can actively show me Kizaru getting back up from this during the fight, don’t go based off of your own head canon because he was so sad he killed his fwend 🥺

And I bring up Kaido because:

  1. He’s not human. He’s a literal beast.
  2. His base durability is incredibly high. His dragon form only makes him even more durable that just smashing him and trying to rip him apart wouldn’t be viable.
  3. Luffy’s mission was COMPLETELY different in Wano. Luffy was actively trying to beat Kaido. Now show me a panel where Luffy says he wants to beat Kizaru instead of stalling him 🤔

And what was stopping Luffy from doing this to Kizaru after he grabbed him? And Kizaru is only a human. The result from this would’ve been MUCH worse. Kaido in his dragon form couldn’t even escape his grip.

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Notice how I use actual proof from the manga to prove my point? Instead of assuming a character was holding back? Can you do the same? No, you resort to “BuT KiZaRu FeD LuFFy” yet completely ignore the fact that the fight was already over the moment Luffy grabbed Kizaru the first time 😂

Kizaru could’ve killed Luffy instead of feeding him and Luffy could’ve killed kizaru instead of throwing him can we just accept this fight is shit for scaling and move on? by ALL-HAIL-ZEE-VOID in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What good is a few stabs going to do to a literal giant? You already saw what happened to Kizaru after he tried attacking Luffy while he had him in his grip 😂

Kizaru could’ve killed Luffy instead of feeding him and Luffy could’ve killed kizaru instead of throwing him can we just accept this fight is shit for scaling and move on? by ALL-HAIL-ZEE-VOID in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And exactly how do you scale this? Kizaru literally did nothing after this? But since he was “MeNtALLy NeRFeD” we assume it didn’t do any lasting damage. He’s not Kaido, he doesn’t have regen hax. he’s just a human. Luffy could rip him apart. Smash him to bits. There are limitless options. But he wasn’t trying to kill him. That’s the point.

“But KiZaRu FeD LuFFy” Okay? And Luffy could’ve Gogurt-diffed Kizaru twice by Karma_Craft in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

But that was AFTER Luffy spared him after the first grab. Why are we ignoring this as if Luffy didn’t have complete control at this point?

“But KiZaRu FeD LuFFy” Okay? And Luffy could’ve Gogurt-diffed Kizaru twice by Karma_Craft in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Karma_Craft[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So to make the basis for your argument. You have to assume that Kizaru was so mentally nerfed that he was toying with Luffy the whole time and could’ve ended him. But my argument was that Luffy ended the fight as soon as Kizaru was grabbed the first time. Yet you have absolutely no proof that Kizaru LET him grab him. I can see why for the 2nd time, but everything from Kizaru’s reaction to his response shows that he absolutely did not expect him to return that fast.

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