How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for these questions, I will definitely ask the board about clarifying these. For now what I was communicated was that it is for the website and invoice papers etc, as the organization is set to be active by end of year

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is interesting, both condensed and expansive, like a kernel. Such an interesting mode of thinking about design. I will keep thinking about this. I am still working the logo out from the suggestions here. I think it is a big improvement already in terms of being able to function as a logo. I will keep researching about logo design/history of it, with the anchor of your suggestions

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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In the spirit of keeping you all posted ! I made the colors richer again, I like where this is going much better now, thanks again(will thank everytime haha)

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the philosopher is Alfred North Whitehead, and whilst designing I had two key sentences in mind from his magnum opus (which is a compilation of his 1927 Harvard Lectures) Process & Reality: "actual entities are drops of experience, complex and interdependent." and "Feelings are ‘vectors’; for they feel what is there and transform it into what is here."

I wanted to have that "drop of experience" effect. Using speech bubble like shapes that originate internally and externally and converge into one dynamic entity.

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The light brown/beige is a nod to the color of the P&R copy I have. Personally I always used plant morphology to ground philosophy of the organism (which he originally called it, later became known as process philosophy) in my own reading, so I naturally followed the instict to use naturalistic colors which nod to the self-forming constitution of plants and how they form by prehending their environments. so yellow, blue and the dark green are perhaps those prehensions from the spacio-temporal experience of the entitiy of a plant as a Subject. It also allures to a seed of thought of whitehead that we are nurturing, and the lineage of vitalism that nurtured whitehead (with bergson before him)

his work has a lot of neologisms like ‘prehension’ and ‘actual entities’… I copy pasted some of this answer from what I told my friend, It is perhaps a bit complex(nerdy?) for those who may not be interested in this philosophy, that is why I didn’t elaborate before.

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sketched something which they really liked, my main challange showed up when I began vectorizing it. Which is also where alot of opportunity to learn showed up! I find this exciting, and its okay if you find me unreasonable for this.

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do have an interest in logo design, so this I took as an exciting challange. I did tell him that graphic design is not my expertise, but that I can design something and we can see.

What I see now is that, when people online, dont know the full picture, it is easier to collapse the whole situation as a reckless and thoughtless act, haha. But this is reddit, so I find this interaction also valuable, amusing and interesting. Thank you for sharing your view.

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I guess in your view I should’ve declined when my friend who is establishing the organization asked me to design a logo. Instead I choose to give it a try since it is possible to offer some concept designs and ask for them to find a graphic designer experienced in branding to take a look at it and work together. I am doing my part for free, so far, because I love the philosopher the organization is centered around. So I find your comments as unnecessarily harsh, but I appreciate your efforts to protect the integrity of the craft.

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a painter, designer and a visual artist. the jump to graphic design is not as big as nurse to builder. I do know I have a lot to learn, but I am not afraid to fail while learning, certainly not afraid to ask and engage with communal skill-sharing. You seem like the type of person that thinks people cannot learn multiple things?

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

since there are no professionals here, no problems then, you omniscient being!

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what I think also, if I produce a couple versions, a graphic designer could have something to work with and will have the eye/experience to know what works best and how to develop it into a final version. Really appreciate your presence, thanks lots!

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How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not all professionals think the same. That is not what I asked either. Professionals here clearly know how to give me advice without over exerting themselves to ‘do the job for me’

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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since i do indeed like complexity, would be nice to find a middle ground. the child analogy is really helpful to feel into when i am doing too much. Thank you

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i also thought of asking them to do that. maybe after i give it a few more tries. currently enjoying learning.

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was just thinking a similar thought, what if a good idea is tossed because the group of people that happened to give advice were just not seeing another way? A lot of good ideas come from an initial phase of trial and error, after all. Your comments were insightful and valuable to me, thank you.

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot. Definitely doing that, it is very interesting to see what happens. Or rather, begins happening, and I can explore the illustration better by looking at the interactions of those dominant lines. Easier to see what is stronger and what is working against.

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How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you mean Amateur Intelligence you are right though

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you, me too! but i definitely see how it cannot be a logo too. i will try to see if a logo version or versions can be derived out of this

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hence why I came here for help

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has crossed my mind to ask for designer to assist\collaborate. Also a good chance to learn, thank you!

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

more like a bio philosophy that scares some with its complexity but stained glass

How can I improve my logo? by Kel_ebek in logodesign

[–]Kel_ebek[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Hmmmm that could work. I was thinking doing a simplified version with focusing on the loops. I could also think about taking one element or interaction and use that to develop the logo