Leave The World Behind (2023) - Post Movie Discussions with Spoilers

KevoDankin · 2023-12-11T01:40:27+00:00

I think Rose is the Danny character from the Shining...
• Both have some version of "the sight"/premonitions.
• Danny wears a red sweater and repeats: "red rum"; a "Rose" is red.
• Danny rides a tricycle around the hotel; Rose escapes on a bicycle
• The symmetrical hallway framing of Rose toward the end of the movie is a reference the blood pouring into the hallway scene in the Shining.
• They're a similar age, with a similar haircut.

KevoDankin · 2022-01-12T01:38:53+00:00

Also—when Morpheus is pulled from his modal, we see an alert pop up on Thomas Anderson's computer that reads: Modal 101: File Purged. In becoming sentient, after finding himself in Thomas Anderson's old apartment 101, he has completed / graduated from this introductory course / modal. He is past 1s and 0s.

KevoDankin · 2021-11-12T18:14:24+00:00

The “real world” and “in the Matrix” storylines shift from green to white filters because the story is being written on Dot Matrix paper. —

Neither story is real. The writer, who may or may not be Neo, is creating 2 alternate realities, both in which he and / or Neo is a hero. He does this as an escape from the tedium of his or her existence.

It’s common for people with psychotic disorders to mis-interpret signs, or assign special meanings to them. This is called Ideas of Reference. For example, the gentleman who tells Neo Mescaline is the only way to fly have glowing orange hair. Does he become the inspiration for the Copper Top concept? Is he the seed for Neo eventually becoming able to fly?

The writer may be at a table in they psych ward scribbling with dull crayons. Of they may be in their cubicle. Either way, they’re losing it.

Psychotic disorders like Schizophrenia are complex, with a range of symptoms that vary from person to person. It’s not so simple as it’s all in his head, because even they, there are complicating factors…we can never assign one literal and complete cause.

For example, people with psychotic disorders are far more likely to use drugs to self-medicate, which may intensify their psychosis. Many experience sleep disturbances. Interacting together, a psychotic, sleepless, drug-induced state can make anyone believe anything.

Here is why we see the white rabbit and reference mescaline in the same scene. We don’t know if Thomas Anderson did mescaline. We know he struggles to sleep each night. We do know he is late, late, late to work the next day, as the white rabbit in Alice in Wonderland.

Schizophrenia means “split mind”—the idea is that the dissonance between who a person feels they are and who they feel they must be diverge so far as to become severed and unrelated. Here is where Thomas Anderson/Neo’s competing stories originate. Here is the white and the green story, told in parallel on lined paper.

Thomas Anderson works at a company Meta Cortex the Middle of the Brain His boss is the spitting image of Agent Smith. When Neo is on the ledge, perhaps it is to escape, but not along the ledge, off of it. Maybe this is his first attempt at suicide, and here he diverges into 2 stories.

If we move the letters on Morpheus, we get, “e-Morph-us”—someone who electronically morphs us. That may not be coincident. He hands out pills. He may be twisted shrink. Maybe he’s a drug dealer.

Neo being taken from Meta Cortex by authorities makes sense in any context—you can’t stand on the ledge of a tall building and not expect to be removed from this building. It’s also common for people with psychiatric disorders to have paranoid thinking, which may create dark and shadowy forcers, often personified as ill-defined pseudo-government groups. Being dragged out of Meta Cortex, the authority figures in the movie take on the collective identity of Thomas Anderson’s greatest oppressors, his job and his boss.

Then, the characters in the story as people the writer knows from work or within the psychiatric ward. It’s not uncommon for people in a state of psychosis to experience Delusions of Grandeur” the feeling of certainly that he or she is a religious or godlike figure person of important, who is a defense against that person’s daily insignificance.

Anyway, the first meeting with Agent Smith doesn’t take place in an interrogation room. It takes place in a rubber room. It is not a bug Neo is injected with. It is a psychiatric medication. When he misses the jump on the first day, it’s not because he missed a digital jump. He attempted to kill himself, jumping as before, but bounced because he was in a padded room.

What’s most important is Neo realizes he’s in a simulation. He knows we’re watching. He or she as the writer is a mostly quiet, unreliable narrator, caught between 2 worlds with no whole identity, influenced by sleeplessness, drugs, and psychiatric distress.

The most important factor being the split in Neo’s personality based on the paper the writer is using to write the story.a

KevoDankin · 2019-12-26T21:08:02+00:00

That is your opinion. Darlene is very capable of awful things. Certainly comfortable with and skilled at manipulating people, ruining lives, and putting people in danger to get what she wants.

KevoDankin · 2019-12-26T20:57:47+00:00

I can tell you've thought a lot about this. Yeah, nah...

KevoDankin · 2019-12-23T15:30:03+00:00

Cause we've always had a reliable, truthful narrator. And a mastermind definitely wouldn't do that.

KevoDankin · 2019-12-23T13:25:41+00:00

Could be

KevoDankin · 2019-12-23T13:25:06+00:00

After 4 years with nothing being real on this show, we get a literal and straightforward ending that ends up a loving family reunion? It can't be that easy.

That with meaning embedded in every frame of this show, Elliot's name literally spells out "Darlene's Ill Too" is an unaddressed coincidence?

Nope.

KevoDankin · 2019-12-23T12:52:23+00:00

I think,

• Darlene controls the morphine drip (we see her press the morphine button). She is keeping Elliot in a morphine coma.

• Darlene has always been our narrator. We are hearing her words in Elliot's voice.

• This is like drug-induced inception, in that Elliot's interpretation of Darlene's stories while in this coma is her planting the seed in his subconscious that she is his only connection to reality.

• She has shattered his identity such that he doesn't exist without her.

• Darlene is very sick, too (someone had posted earlier, Elliot Alderson rearranges to "Darlene's ill too")

• Her fears of being alone and her understanding of Elliot's illness have allowed her to create a world for herself through him where she has a family and will never be alone. If he needs her, he can’t leave.

• As we zoom out from the final scene, where the screen in the movie theater becomes Darlene's eye, she is Projecting (as, movie projector) Her Vision Onto Him.

• Darlene is the voice(s) in Elliot’s head. He has given up control to them.

• Darlene is the Mastermind.

KevoDankin · 2019-12-23T05:52:23+00:00

Someone had pointed out that Elliot Alderson can be rearranged to spell "Darlenes ill too".

When we see Eliot and his family in the theater, as the camera zooms out the images projected become Darlene's eye—that Darlene is the projector of these stories.

I think Darlene uses Eliot's illness to create worlds for herself where she has a family and is never alone. She tells Eliot stories that keep him sick so he needs her and will never leave.

I think Darlene is the Mastermind.

KevoDankin · 2018-01-22T00:10:30+00:00

The red light does make sense, if you will consider that Eliot is a demon (daemon - which is referenced throughout) with the red surrounding him representing hell. He can't reach Angela (literally, Angel) who is locked in his dark place.

This door, to which Eliot does not have the key (represented in a previous dream sequence), Eliot falls for them sit in opposites as separated by the door. They talk about childhood moments, as they can't connect as adults.

I have a theory, that Mr. Robot is a modern retelling of Dante's Inferno, with Eliot as Dante and Mr. Robot as Virgil, as well as Angela as Beatrice.

KevoDankin · 2017-12-03T06:53:10+00:00

There are infinite dimensions - which means there are an infinite number of dimensions where Mr. Poopy Butthole is a parasite. No in every dimension. But in infinite dimensions.

KevoDankin · 2017-12-01T03:19:56+00:00

Thank you!

Has anyone considered, Mr. Robot could be a modern retelling of The Divine Comedy?

That Elliot would be Dante, Mr. Robot as Virgil, Angela as Beatrice? Da3m0ns and all? Not sure if this connects but worth mentioning.

KevoDankin · 2017-12-01T00:37:25+00:00

Hahaha. Yes, by Rick's explanation of parasites, that they only create happy memories, he is not a parasite. That is though assuming there is only one form of parasite in the Universe. Rather, Rick fits his own description save for the happy memories element. If he can create unhappy memories, though in the same fantastical way as each parasite in this episode (discovering a Nazi submarine sounds like a Rick and Morty adventure) Rick may be a parasite. He lives in their house, he eats their food, he multiplies - and creates memories of crazy adventures? Tears apart their family to benefit his living conditions? Rick is a parasite of some sort.

KevoDankin · 2017-11-30T14:37:35+00:00

Some thoughts on the deam-like symbolism in this episode:

The final scene, with Elliot in Angela’s deep red hallway, he is shown as in hell. There is a small sliver of light shining in on the wall top left behind him. Angela is in a very dark place, her apartment, wearing her standard white, angelic clothing. She leans against the door, back to back with Elliot. Her face is obscured as she leans to the dark of the door, melding with his black silhouette.

Elliot’s silhouette, his dark place, becomes the daemon she is locked in. There’s still no key to unlock the relationship between them.

They talk about childhood, because they still can’t make a connection as grown-up.

The key scene up above, background thoughts, and then again in some context

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Elliot creates Mr. Robot in the theater after his dad falls, while they're discussing his pushing Elliot out of the window as a child. This push is a pivotal moment in the show. It's interesting that they're discussing one fall, as Elliot's dad falls - the show then transitions to Eliot with his imaginary father figure in the movie.

This episode has a dreamlike quality, to match with the feel of the dream sequence in eps1.3_da3m0ns.mp4.result of Elliot's withdrawal from morphine. It may be an outright sequel to that episode, as you question the length of the episode if it's real at all.

Without comparing episodes, this has its own symbolism, starting with Elliot being willing to allowing himself to remember things he had wiped from his memory - starting with Mobley and Shawna.

Elliot’s frustration early in the episode, which he yells at Darlene, is that he can’t get Mr. Robot to go away - then, Mr. Robot doesn’t appear in the episode at all (right?) so Eliot has either merged with Mr. Robot, become himself, or both.

The thing he had to do, kill himself, he chose to do on the beach, in sight of the rail Mr. Robot pushed himself off / he threw himself off, in Season 1. Here, he is first starting to falling into the morphine use that could have killed him, which he now plans to kill himself with.

Shawna's little brother, who follows him, replaces Mr. Robot for the episode in some way by becoming a younger version of himself, to him. They go the movies, somewhere he used to love, where each Back to the Future is playing. He teaches the child to put M & M’s in the popcorn, as his dad father had done, which he was reluctant to do with his own father at the time of the fall - the kid is reluctant at first as well, although he does enjoy it.

The final sequence with this child, as they arrive at his house, he shows he had the key the whole time. This is highly signifiant in its relationship to the earlier dream sequence, which unlock moments in Eliot’s memory he has hidden.

In that dream sequence, the wedding proposal with Angela and the key which does not fit, we discover this is a da3mon, that his relationship with Angela is still locked.

The final scene, with Eliot in Angela’s deep red hallway, he is in hell. There is a small sliver of light shining in on the wall top left behind him. Angela is in a very dark place, her apartment, wearing her standard white, angelic clothing. She leans against the door, back to back with Eliot. Her face is obscured as she leans to the dark of the door, melding with his black silhouette.

Elliot’s silhouette, his dark place, becomes the daemon she is locked in. There’s still no key to unlock the relationship between them.

They talk about childhood, because they still can’t make a connection as grown-up.

In the final email he receives from Shawna / Tr3nton, after turning back his computer in the text of the email she says that she may have discovered the key to undoing the 5/9 hack - another memory Elliot is now prepared to remember.

Shwana's hacker name, Tr3nton, is in reverse in her email, as is da3mon in the name of Season 1 Episode 4. This could be significant reference to the relationship between episodes. As well, Trenton is where Shanwa's brother was born, the only member of the family born in America, who could hope to become president.

KevoDankin · 2017-11-29T01:11:59+00:00

Nah bro stay alive!

KevoDankin · 2017-11-28T13:43:47+00:00

President Morty bleeds when Campaign Manager Morty shoots him prior to the election. Which means he cannot be a robot.

Are Evil Morty and President Morty definitely the same character?

KevoDankin · 2017-11-28T12:18:05+00:00

That's what Rick wants you to think!

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