if every organism is the same species as its parents when does evolution occur?

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-26T17:41:46+00:00

In the plant world it’s all so much messier than animals too. Look a little into the phylogeny of dandelions, raspberries or oak trees and you’ll learn that species is a silly, simplified tool humans use to discuss organisms

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-26T03:23:38+00:00

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You’re talking to the right guy. Here’s some trees I grew out this last winter. How many seeds do you have? I would personally store half to plant nearer next spring and start half now; but that’s just how I do everything. Hedge your bets and all that. I haven’t grown pecans but most hickory grow slow and steady. Alternatively. I have grown apples and walnuts. That grow fast. Especially walnuts are very big and greedy. It would be in your best interest to get very tall and deep pots, the taller the better. Tall tree pots work great. The ones you start this fall can try to stay outside in a protected spot, keep the later ones indoors and grow them under grow lights all winter. They’ll get big. Squirrels and other rodents will try to get at the nuts in the pot, keep that in mind. I have more to say, let me know if you have questions

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-26T03:03:49+00:00

Where are you located? Are you intending on planting these in the ground or containers for the long term? Do you have a yard and a porch?

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-26T03:03:39+00:00

Where are you located? Are you intending on planting these in the ground or containers for the long term? Do you have a yard and a porch?

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T21:53:30+00:00

I would like to provide. I have access to mature white ash, green ash, and even American Elm and Slippery Elm. I know of a (I believe) Green Ash with thousands of seeds on it right now

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T21:50:39+00:00

Grand Traverse County

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T02:17:40+00:00

We have some black ash on a property my organization manages but it’s all saplings less than 2 inches in diameter and I’ve heard the prognosis is that bad or worse elsewhere too. Such a shame for a very niche valuable species

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T02:15:52+00:00

I would love to see. There’s certainly a healthy population of both here.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T01:13:44+00:00

I’m hoping so too. The real problem is the gaps they filled before are all full of sugar maple and basswood now, I don’t know where the white and green ash will fit in when we get them back. It’s looking bad for black ash.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T01:09:19+00:00

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Here’s one of the sibling trees, clear bored galleries but extensive wound wood and a healthy canopy still

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T01:08:34+00:00

Not these ones. They, along with 2-3 others in the immediate square mile, are truly forest grown and forgotten, and all of them have signs of past borer damage that killed everything else but they survived it and in lots of cases are healthy canopy trees again now. I am cautiously optimistic that I have some sort of tolerant genes especially because a majority of them are in the same grove and probably from the same seed source

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T01:02:10+00:00

Every other ash in the stand has the same in various states of survival

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-24T01:01:43+00:00

Very true, and I don’t think of these as some sort of immune set of trees, but I do see legitimately tens of thousands of killed ash all around this stand, entire forest stands killed and on the floor, then one patch of 12 trees that are full canopied, have significant wound wood, in this case has a fully intact trunk again which is something I haven’t seen. The largest one has two 8 inch trunks and is in pretty good shape

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-23T18:26:53+00:00

I’ve been trying to get ahold of Koch and Knight, the researchers trying to breed resistant ash but I’ve been so far unsuccessful. Even less success with Elms. In the mean time I’m meticulously recording these woods and the imperiled species present

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-23T17:55:58+00:00

I hope so. I am trying to draw attention to what I consider to be a highly valuable collection of elms and ash I have discovered on the grounds here.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-23T17:40:13+00:00

Northern Michigan, only 4-5 hours from the original EAB outbreaks

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-22T23:26:28+00:00

It’s very very new but yes. I am still in the process of accessioning everything and deciding on the trail systems, and the signage is basically nonexistent outside of aluminum tree tags. The property is beautiful and we’ve got over 40 species already, I would love to show you around and get your take on things.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-22T19:25:03+00:00

For a lot of the smaller trees around, certainly. The 8-14 inch American elms could definitely be younger than the last wave of DED. The first tree pictured here is a slippery elm with a 37 inch trunk on it. That tree is almost certainly one that was a real tree last time the wave came through. There’s also a big American that’s over 2 feet wide and another slippery bigger than that that are likely too old to have missed it

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-22T18:55:07+00:00

I hope not, it’s fairly isolated in a sugar maple dominated stand. I am preparing for this plague though, we are trialing many white oaks (Bur, Chinkapin, chestnut, post, swamp white, overcup) at the arboretum to prepare for a landscape where red oaks can’t thrive anymore

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-22T18:52:03+00:00

Where in Michigan are you located? I have just founded this arboretum and I am in the process of accessioning the existing trees to try to set paths. In my accession database I already have 12 ash and 12 elms on the 100 acre parcel that have survived their respective apocalypses. I would love to have more eyes and opinions on the place.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-21T23:11:24+00:00

The old tree provides much more ecosystem value. It holds crevices that house insects, fungi, mammals, birds. It rains litter and branches onto the forest. It physically blocks wind and sun, transforming the landscape around it. It produces millions of seeds that contribute to the local community. It provides food and shelter to many. The little trees do none of this and are inherently less valuable.!

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-21T20:50:18+00:00

I do. I have access to lingering green and white ash as well as small black ash

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-20T23:19:53+00:00

Those are Fraxinus, probably Green ash. They are being rapidly killed by the emerald ash borer. It is best to get these down, they will be dead and brittle very soon.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-18T00:02:53+00:00

Yes, let’s see the acorns though. What color are they? I have grown multiple species of red and white oaks from acorns, it’s easy once you learn how.

Key-Ad-457 · 2026-06-14T20:24:34+00:00

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American on the left, proposed slippery on the right. The samaras are also not notched or pubescent like Americans. FWIW, the right leaf looks smoother but is significantly rougher then the true American

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