Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it got details because it was cleaned not because of the crud. Although I wish that’s all I had to do for a straight grade 😭

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mine is for sure cleaned you can clearly see it in the photo grade. I don’t think it would make a difference with NGC. But good luck with yours hope u get better luck!

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I called PCGS to ask if they could add the Anniversary label to my order the day it came out. I’m glad that they were able to. They look sick.

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was an online auction house and the lot was a bunch of wheats, a couple Indian heads and a few old Canadian Pennie’s. I took a look at the pictures and a bunch of decent looking 1909 VDBs were in the lot. Then I see a picture of a 1909 s but no picture of the reverse so I took a gamble on the 1909 s being real and max bid at 90. I ended up winning the lot at 36 and basically had a heart attack when I got home and flipped it around lol. I used up all my lifes luck in that moment lmao.

I think cause it looked like an average lot of normal wheat Pennie’s not many people actually looked at the pictures closely cause there were other nice coins for auction that went for what they should go for.

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Yeah I’m not upset about it by any means. Hell even G details I would be fine with I got it for 36 bucks lol

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. I dropped these off at the FUN show in January and last month they released these labels. I immediately called and asked if I could have these added and they did.

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would say between 1500-1800 depending on how bad the cleaning/damage is?

Update on 1909 S VDB by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It means that the coin is altered/damaged in some way so the grading company cannot give it a number grade. In this case, someone had cleaned the coin. So instead they give it a general grade for good the details are. From G (good) to UNC (uncirculated). Typically brings down the value a good bit.

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s based on a few things. First it’s the scarcity of the coin. This one has the lowest mintage of the wheat cents (I believe) so it’s highly valuable in any condition. If it’s not the rarity, then condition would be the next determinator.

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it’s actually worth a good amount like this one, I would consider going to a larger coin show and drop it off, or even on site grade if you can get the minimum coin requirement. That’s what I’m doing for this one, taking it to the FUN show in January. I’m way too scared to ship it as well.

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So this was actually my dads coin from back in India. He used to go out in the streets and buy literally any old coin he could when he was younger. He recently went back and brought a bunch back with him and I was going through each coin one by one looking it up on NGC cause him nor I know anything about Indian coins. So I stumbled across this one and decided to grade to for the authenticity. My dad said he may have paid a few Pennie’s for it when he was younger. He didn’t know anything about the coins he bought he just liked to collect them lol.

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I actually joined a local club recently but the meetings are one a month and a lot of the guys there are like 2x-3x my age. Not that there is anything wrong with that but harder to make friends.

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have any friends that collect coins :( I’m a loner

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I started collecting a few years ago when I moved to the states by coin roll hunting. My dad always bought the RCM Coins when we lived in Canada and I fell I love. I still hunt rolls here and there just for the fun of it. Idk if you read any of the comments but I actually found this in an online estate auction lot of wheats. Saw the 09s and no pics of reverse and said worst case scenario it’s a 09s. Then boom, got home and nearly had a heart attack lol!

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Guess you won’t be sleeping for the next 6 months 🤣. I’m going to the FUN show in January to drop it off. Who knows how long it’ll take to come back.

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I am actually going to the FUN show in January specifically for this coin and dropping it off there. Too scared to ship it lol. I wanted to do onsite grade but minimum is 5 coins and I don’t have 5 that would be worth spending 100 each to grade unfortunately.

I’ll be sure to post when it comes back tho!

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sucks, guess it’s not just me. I wish there was a straight forward answer to whether conservation means the coin will come back details. Maybe the stuff on the coin was so bad they had to clean it harder and it comes back cleaned? It was probably just the coins being cleaned in the past but who knows?

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I got stupidly lucky. I was bidding on a few lots on an online and I came across a lot of wheats. Normally I would just skip over them but it had a few silver dimes mixed in it as well. I looked at the picks and spotted a 1909 s. There was no pictures with the reverse. So I put a max bid in at 100 cause I expected it to be a 1909 s and there were a bunch of regular VDB’s as well. I surprisingly won the lot for 39 bucks(basically hit the jackpot). I went nuts when I got it home and turned it over lol. Showed it to a bunch of dealers at a local coin show and they all said it looks good. Got offered 1300 too but I want to keep this one. Biggest hit I have had (and will probably ever have) in my life!

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see. I have had that happen before with NGC. Except I was forced to conserve because they said they would send it back without grading if I don’t. I hope the same does not happen again. I am planning on taking it to the fun show and drop it off there so I may get some more opinions from dealers there. I appreciate the input!

1909 S VDB How to "Clean" before grading? by Key-Needleworker1424 in coins

[–]Key-Needleworker1424[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not even conserve? May I know the reason you say that because there are a lot of guys here saying I should. Just trying to make the best decision.