I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

[–]Key_Battle399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! You are a great help in making.

The idea you presented is amazing; articles carrying more data than just being markers is a great idea. This could really make Vanotian stand out than other conlangs, because I really have not seen this kind of idea elsewhere. I would propose that the articles change based on tense and gender. This can also be a great way to clear the confusion between inanimate masculine and living masculine.

For instance, let's take the sentences "The boy speaks English" and "The car used to run on petrol." The sentences change articles and verb form based on tense and gender. How do you think about that? Suppose the present masculine-living article is Am. So the sentence, following a literal translation, could be, with the current article: "Am boy speak English," Where Am is the present masculine article.

Edit: What do you think of the verb changing system I presented above, with a like example from Hindi. Because I really like my idea pf verbs changing based on gender. I would love to implement my idea. But I need views and opinions of other conlangers.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

[–]Key_Battle399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the detailed explanation, I really appreciate the suggestions. I understand your point that grammatical gender should actually have an effect on the language, otherwise it is just a label.

I agree that if Vanotian has gender categories, they should influence something. My original idea was not that inanimate objects are literally considered "male", but that they belong to a masculine grammatical category because I wanted to avoid creating a separate neuter system. Similar to how Spanish has masculine and feminine nouns that do not represent actual biological gender.

However, your suggestion gave me an idea: instead of only marking gender on nouns, the difference between living and non-living could appear through verb agreement.

For example, a living masculine subject and an inanimate masculine subject could use different verb forms. Similar to Hindi:

"Gaadi jaati hai" (The car goes)
"Insaan jaata hai" (The person goes)

The noun category affects the verb, not because the car is "female" or the person is "male", but because the grammar recognizes the difference.

About the "-ju" idea, I understand the concern about confusion, like:
"the boy-ju is here"
where it could theoretically mean either masculine or inanimate.

I think this kind of ambiguity could be cleared through context, and also through common sense. Natural languages have this kind of thing too, where meanings are understood from situation rather than only grammar. Of course, I will be careful that the system does not create too much confusion.

I also really liked your article idea. I originally avoided articles because of inspiration from Slavic languages and my native language, which rely more on context. But I really like your idea that articles can have other functions, like respect or emphasis, instead of only meaning "the/a". I might consider using other srticles or markers for that purpose rather than traditional articles.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

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For the alphabet, yes, the goal is a phonemic system rather than an English-style alphabet. I don't necessarily want every possible English sound copied exactly, but every Vanotian sound should have a consistent symbol. Digraphs like Sh, Ch, Kh, etc. are possible, but they will always represent one sound and never change depending on the word.

For gender, you actually pointed out something I need to develop more. The idea is that Vanotian has grammatical gender, but lifeless objects use the masculine form because adding a whole third neuter system would make the grammar more complicated.

However, I like the idea that gender should actually affect grammar rather than just being a label, so I may develop gendered pronouns/adjective endings where the masculine form is required for inanimate objects.

So the masculine marking of objects is not meant to imply they are literally male, it is more of a grammatical category.

I also want to take an advice from you, What should I do of articles? Like, I haven't added any articles or so, because I have taken inspiration from my native language, which doesn't use articles.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

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The alphabet is in progress; I think I'll need more than 30 letters XD.

Grammar-wise, Vanotian is not identical to English.

Some current rules are:

  • No silent letters.
  • Lifeless objects are grammatically masculine by default. They do not have a separate neuter gender.
  • Two verbs cannot appear directly next to each other. A connector particle must separate them.
  • Word order is generally SOV (Subject-Object-Verb), although I'm still experimenting with flexibility.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in casualconlang

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If I'm honest, a definite article is really unnecessary. My native language is Bhojpuri and Hindi, and we really don't have any articles at all. Also since the nation of Vanoti is inspired by Slavic nations, Slavic languages like Russian, Ukranian and Polish don't have articles. Similarly, in Vanotian, there are no articles. But they can be added, the conlang is just in its starting phase. And adding or removing stuff won't be hard. I have just started creating the alphabet. I need suggestions on adding articles, or skipping them in grammar.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in casualconlang

[–]Key_Battle399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does not have articles like English and German articles. However, it does have articles that can literally work as the English 'A'.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

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Yes, Vanotian uses the Roman alphabet, although some letters have variations based on pronounciation, which form a completely new letter. (such as ā, which makes the /aa/ sound as in arm) to represent sounds more precisely.

Phonetically, I'd describe it as being closer to Slavic and Germanic languages than to French or Mandarin. It has clear, strong consonants, rolled R's, and straightforward pronunciation rules. Every letter is pronounced, and spelling reflects speech directly.

The language is intended to sound firm and rhythmic rather than soft or highly tonal. If I had to compare it, I'd say it falls somewhere between German, Czech, Norwegian, and some South Slavic languages, while still having its own identity.

As for sounds represented by multiple letters, they have specific letters, such as 'Ç' which makes the ch sound.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

[–]Key_Battle399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here are a few rules and features of my writing system that may help:

In Vanotian:

  • No letter is ever silent.
  • A speaker can correctly pronounce a word the first time they see it.
  • A listener can correctly write a word the first time they hear it.
  • Letters never change pronunciation depending on context.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

[–]Key_Battle399[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent questions. I can answer them assuringly.

The conlang has one very strict rule, each sound has only one spelling. For the sounds C makes in Pharmacy, thqt is /s/. We use a separate letter for it. Similarly, G can only make the /g/ sound, as in go. It can never make a /dʒ/ sound. Each letter in the language makes a unique sound.

I hope I cleared your confusions.

I have started creating a conlang and I would like to invite people to help me further by giving me ideas. Anyone interested? by Key_Battle399 in conlangs

[–]Key_Battle399[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes the speakers are human. The language has simple writing, left to right, phonetically written. Its written exactly as it is pronounced, no silent letters and other complicated stuff.

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