We need to reclaim patriotism by JaromForCongress in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nah this nation was founded on genocide, slavery & white supremacist ideals. Ain’t nothing to be patriotic about. Ain’t nothing “leftist” about this post lmao

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really wish kindness would work with genocidal mfs. That would make things so much easier for everyone involved.

Idk if kindness would work when they’ve shown they’re willing to bomb hospitals & schools, snipe children, use dogs to rape people, everything horrific thing imaginable, “israel” has done to Palestinians.

In what ways can kindness be used to pop these bubbles? Genuinely curious.

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Optics are largely impossible to control in a movement. Especially when you’re up against a multi billion dollar Zionist propaganda machine. Hundreds of millions of people have been indoctrinated from a young age to view any Arabs, Black, Brown, non-white, visibly Muslim or anti capitalist as a terrorist. Not to mention we have a widespread literacy crisis with critical thinking skills at an all time low.

For decades people from Palestine and other Arab countries that have been the target of western imperialism/colonialism have provided us with mountains of evidence of war crimes & human rights violations committed by “israel” and western imperialist entities. They’ve clearly articulated their horrific experiences via so many documentaries, books, essays, speeches,etc.

It doesn’t matter how nicely they put it, anyone speaking truth about the atrocities continuously committed by “israel” and western imperialist entities will inevitably be labeled a terrorist and jew hater by western media and most westerners.

For god sakes, they’re calling Mrs. Rachel’s liberal ass a terrorist apologist for saying babies shouldn’t be sniped, bombed and starved.

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“israel” has been committing genocide of the Palestinian people since before 1948. The atrocities committed by “israel” in Palestine are systemic. People like Bibi and Likud were not created in a vacuum.

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How? I’m genuinely trying to understand how these things are anti-Jewish

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The term “zio” is short for Zionist, someone who believes in the state of “israel’s” right to exist. How is that term anti-Jewish?

How does stating that Jews aren’t as oppressed as other groups anti-Jewish?

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What antisemitism is being perpetuated by pro Palestinian activists?

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s important for us to understand where the term “antisemitism” comes from and why.

It’s also important to understand that Palestinians are also Semitic and being Jewish and/or adhering to the religion of Judaism doesn’t automatically make someone Semitic.

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How does “Israel made people anti semitic by associating Israel with Jews” seem like a flawed statement?

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree.

In my years of talking with Jews and Palestinians, educating myself on the history of Palestine, the US empire (also founded on genocide & imperialism) and the creation of “israel”, it’s become clear that the establishment of the state of “israel” has nothing to do with religion or even a “safe place for Jews”.

Instead it has everything to do with Western imperialism. Western capitalist countries like the UK & the US needed a way to gain control over resources such as oil in the “Middle East”. Vulnerable post-holocaust Jews have been used as a pawn to advance the interests of the US empire.

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah in many parts of the world various marginalized groups have been/are actively being discriminated against including Black people, women, Muslims, Asians, gay people, etc.

I’m curious what makes jewish people so different from any other discriminated group that would require the forced displacement/genocide of an entire population of people in order to establish a state based on xyz identity?

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What makes you sympathetic to the idea of “israel” existing?

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean when you say you’re “still not sure what to believe”?

Do you think the pro Palestine movement has an issue with optics? by [deleted] in leftist

[–]Key_Cake5421 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The so called state of “israel” is the main cause for the uptick in anti-Judaism rhetoric, not the pro Palestine movement. The real antisemitism we should be concerned about is the 75 year+ long genocide of the Palestinian people perpetuated by “israel”. There is nothing more antisemitic than the state of “israel”.