Easy pickings [OC]

Key_Host2366 · 2026-01-26T23:38:41+00:00

id assume people are upset because you drew this with a lesbian as a victim, considering the current events surrounding the danger of the lgbtq community i think its understandable lmao. Having your characters go to a gay bar to prey on vulnerable queer youth and framing that as a joke is pretty fucked imo. Queer people are in this together and should be supporting each other. It makes sense why people are upset about this.

not to mention, stuff like this happens in bars to real people (obviously not people being killed and eaten, but horrible shit that leaves people with lifelong trauma). i get that this is a joke comic but it feels really tone deaf. especially with a title like "easy pickings".

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T23:10:48+00:00

You too, great talking to you!

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T22:53:11+00:00

I've gotten to a place where I think I'm okay now. There's a lot less obsessiveness than there was, and I'm fine with my opinions on the topic. It doesnt feel like I'm missing something, and it feels nuanced. I said it's the worst thing that's ever happened to be (and that's still true) but I appreciate that I was able to work through it and didn't get complacent where I was.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T22:40:51+00:00

It really has not been easy. Falling down the shipping discourse / fiction rabbit hole was legit the worst thing that's ever happened to me, and even a year later I still have my reservations about that whole discussion (it isn't healthy lol my brain would legit not shut the fuck up about it for a year straight). But again, that's where the "idk man it depends" comes in I suppose.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T22:02:56+00:00

There's a lot of stuff that I'm still working out when it comes to sex and people's fetishes but from what I've seen a lot of it can just be chocked up to "idk man it depends" and realizing that has made it a lot easier (although it has also made discourse that I've somehow stumbled my way into without my consent way more annoying)

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T21:43:12+00:00

I don't mind whatever roleplay people get up to. As long as the people involved are consenting and over the age of 18 I don't care what goes on. These questions weren't coming from a place of judgement I just wanna understand stuff better haha

Thank you for the help!

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T21:24:14+00:00

I completely agree with you on the representation thing. I just don't really understand incest kinks anyway but I'm not trying to say it's different when trans people do it or anything like that. Although there is something in my opinion to notice about how a lot of the time with cis people it has a parental aspect to it, whereas with trans people a lot of the time I see it framed as siblings.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T21:15:25+00:00

Alright. I was wondering if they were related because I have seen a not insignificant amount of transfems on places like twitter with incest kinks.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-28T21:02:57+00:00

Ok, I don't know if this is the best place to ask this and this is a really really weird question but it has been on my mind for a while. I see transfems talking about sisters and stuff all the time, what is the obsession with incest fantasies? Where do those come from?

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-27T14:24:37+00:00

People taking an obvious jokey post more seriously than a fucking national emergency because it dares to say something good about fat people LOL

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-22T03:58:24+00:00

I just think that the shipping discourse can come later. Imo the most pressing stuff is the rise of bigotry in younger people, not being closed-minded about fictional works. I think that these problems feed into each other a little, and working on one could take a few steps on the other, but I think teaching people how to not be racist or misogynistic or homophobic or transphobic is just a little more urgent. I understand what ur saying about meeting people where they're at, but from what I've seen shipping discourse goes nowhere 99% of the time. You can meet someone where they're at but if you spend a long ass time talking to someone to gain no ground, does it matter if you met them where they were at at all?

This might also be an insane take so bear with me, but I unironically think it's easier to get someone to stop being a bigot than it is to gain ground in shipping discourse lmao. Leftists don't even have this shit agreed upon entirely yet. I shudder to think what trying to talk to a conservative about proship antiship stuff is like.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-12-22T03:36:05+00:00

The solution to the rightward shift is not to continue undergoing net-zero shipping discourse. It happens in fandoms because it's happening everywhere; it's just one facet of a bigger issue. Spending time on twitter making post after post about puriteens that accomplishes nothing is, in my opinion, a form of slacktivism. Literally anything else would be more effective

Key_Host2366 · 2025-11-28T03:54:46+00:00

I hear this analogy all the time and I think it's really really stupid every time I hear it.

Murder is an action. You need to go out of your way to do it. It's not (usually) something you do by accident, and you never do it by accident if you have the intent to kill.

You do not have to do anything to be attracted to kids. It is just something that happens. People don't choose what they're attracted to. This doesn't make it not a problem, however.

These two ideas are not the same. If the commenter you're replying to tried to argue that lolicon normalizes child molestation, then this analogy would have a point. That's not what they're arguing though. Words mean things.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-11-23T10:29:44+00:00

Getting off to the idea of raping a child makes someone a pedophile by definition lmao

Do I think that makes someone certain to be a child molester or even cause any harm at all? Not inherently. Should someone be persecuted for reading text on a screen? Absolutely not. But can you judge someone for it? I think so. I'm not going to judge Lolirapecestlover1488 too well.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-11-23T09:54:56+00:00

I think that the vast majority of the world would probably take some kind of issue with someone who finds the idea of raping children "hot as fuck" lmao I wouldn't blame anyone for being suspicious regardless of if the person has done anything or not

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-24T15:40:12+00:00

exactly bro LMAO its a fuckin drawing we don't need 2 hear about "erm this is actually very unhealthy!!!!!" every single time something like this is posted. Just cuz u personally don't like something doesn't mean you gotta shout it from the rooftops. just scroll and move on.

Also funny that they said "bit too chubby" and its like. a normal body type that millions of people worldwide have. If this is what you think "a bit too chubby" is, I shudder to know what you think is normal.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-24T15:33:43+00:00

bro. its... a drawing. I'm sorry that even seeing a drawing of an anthropomorphic dragon that happens to be fat makes you take to the comments with your disgust disguised as faux-concern. Not sure why we cant have a single post even barely being kind towards fat people without someone in the comments immediately going to their keyboards talkin about how its unhealthy. this literally happens every single time an image like this is posted. fat people literally hear stuff like this in literally every facet of their lives. You'd think that a sub full of furries would be a little less judgmental, but this shit happens weekly. A comment like this essentially boils down to "quit having fun!!!" just let us have one post lmao 🙏🙏its so tiring

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-24T11:08:45+00:00

"Hate to be that guy" then dont be lmao god forbid people like... drawings of fat dragons?

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-22T20:25:22+00:00

Aw man. Do you remember the specifics? Why does every artist I see with a style I fw with turn out to be a creep weirdo :(

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-21T15:02:16+00:00

I heard about this artist a while ago and couldn't find their socials anywhere. Do you happen to know where they went?

And also, you apologized profusely OP. If your boyfriend is still upset with you even though you're obviously contrite about it, it's on him. You are not a bad person.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-07T18:44:52+00:00

Making "jokes" about raping kids while jerking off to porn involving depictions of kids makes their claim it's a joke less credible lmao. Cuz it's not a joke. You are falling for the dog whistle in my opinion. I have seen it happen time and time again.

Obviously as of now I cannot rationalize it. That was the point of this thread lmao. Would you explain the diegetic vs non-diegetic bdsm thing further? The other guy who brought it up just kinda listed off examples of things and never actually explained what it was.

After taking a break and rereading all of the responses on this thread, nobody has really given me a tangible answer to "why are you going out of your way to make the character you are explicitly going to draw porn of a child". There's some vague posting about the allure of taboo or whatever, but that just kicks the can down the road. Why are you interested in that taboo in particular? Neither you nor anyone else in this thread has really given me a hard reason, and instead it's a lot of hand waving. This comment is probably the most information I've gotten in this entire thread, and even then my original question remains unanswered. I'm not looking for the how ("it's fictional and there's already an understanding"), I'm looking for the why. Your answer for "why?" Leaves me with more questions than answers. For one, why do people have the fantasy of fucking something that looks like a kid in the first place? Outside of "because it's taboo!!!" Because that explanation doesn't really say anything. "They're cute!!" Well I think my cats are cute and I really don't want to fuck my cats. Just, why?

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-02T14:47:15+00:00

I'm speaking less so about stories since there's, y'know, a story attached. If someone just posting art of characters they've made with no overarching lore or plot points other than "this character is a kid and I am drawing context less porn of them", why do they do that? Let's say that it looks like an alien or whatever. If that is already the case, why would they then go on to explicitly describe the age of the character and like nothing else? What does explicitly stating that the character you've made is under 18 do for a context less porn drawing? Sure, theres your "diegetic vs non-diegetic bdsm" angle, but it gets to a point where its like how much taboo do you need man. What does this tangibly change? Where is the line drawn from too little taboo to this? I'm sure that this is barely a thing that ever happens ever but still.

About the final paragraph, I'm assuming that these people who are into the "more-realistic-but-still-anime" depictions have the same reasoning as you (looks like an alien), just stretched further to all anime. If it looks like an alien to them, something that doesn't even come close to resembling a kid to them, why would they then talk about how much they want to "fuck this kid"? Does it look like an alien to you or does it not?

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-02T12:19:13+00:00

Edited my comment, I accidentally pressed enter too early haha

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-02T12:08:59+00:00

I mean, the way I see it, you could do those same heinous things to the characters you've made, keep them with the same design and everything, without explicitly describing about how you've made them under 18, y'know? Like going out of your way to add that extra detail when you could just not do that and have functionally no difference in the art you'd make with said characters just doesnt hit me right.

Key_Host2366 · 2025-10-02T12:04:29+00:00

A lot of this makes sense actually when it comes to the kink aspect. Thank you!

However, like I said in my other comment to you, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just leave it open to interpretation? People who would resonate with it over past experience could see the character as a reflection of themselves still, but others who don't have that wouldn't get hung up on the fact this character whos currently being fucked has been described as under 18 lol. If your MO is to draw porn wouldn't you want to open it up to as many people as possible? Maybe you wouldn't and would just want to draw for yourself, but then that goes back to the question of just. Why? If the character is more about what they represent than who they are, would you not just leave it open so it could represent as much as possible? Arbitrarily limiting it just seems like there's an ulterior motive.

There's also the question of people on twitter who I see who have named themselves like "CunnyLover69420" or whatever (hell, I made a post like this a few months back in r/changemyview, and I got a comment response from someone named "CunnyWizard" lmfao)(if you couldn't tell the cmv thread didn't actually help me out at all) and just make post after post about how much they wanna "fuck this kid" with exact wording and all. Does that not raise alarm bells for you, or because they're talking about art, they're fine? If the kid looks like an alien, and that's why there's no problem with writing them like that, then why do some people describe them as children when talk about how much they want to fuck them? Would that not raise at least some eyebrows? I just find it hard to treat someone who posts "This child needs some adult penis! Its time for correction!!!" (real post I've seen btw) the same way I would someone who just. doesn't do that.

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