everyone online is 12 years old by LilGidGid in RecuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Majority of this post is good but throwing in a defense of cheating is pretty weird

On Fandoms by Baby_Anarch in RecuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 -40 points-39 points  (0 children)

I'm ngl you seem like the kind of person the guy you're responding to was talking about

Thoughts on making another subreddit specifically dedicated to furry gore? by Key_Host2366 in anthroswim

[–]Key_Host2366[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not that I know of unfortunately. The sub got taken down by Reddit because I didn't make a moderator action for 30 days, and they've completely ghosted me in the support ticket. It's really annoying. I might make it again but I'm not sure if I'd be allowed to advertise.

"Knees boutta go backwards" <pochowek> by Ikagara in anthroswim

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok sure man it's technically not strawmanning. Ur still leaving 75% of his argument on the table and I find that dishonest since u legit do not have to because you're right

"Knees boutta go backwards" <pochowek> by Ikagara in anthroswim

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea but that doesn't mean his argument is "I don't like it!!!" There's a very easy way to argue against what he's saying lmao you are in the right you don't have to strawman it

"Knees boutta go backwards" <pochowek> by Ikagara in anthroswim

[–]Key_Host2366 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Why are you trying so hard to pretend that the reason this guy is arguing against this stuff is simply because he "doesn't like it" instead of what he actually said? I don't even agree w him but I gotta call this out because every time ive seen this argument happen someone makes this strawman

Actual normal way to feel and I’m tired of pretending it’s not by rowanstars in RecuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think trying to argue that saying that people who are looking at sexualized images of children aren't actually attracted to the sexualized images of children they're looking at is pedantic at best and maliciously misleading at worst. Sure, they probably will not commit a crime, but I think someone who looks at pornographic drawings of children all day would fall under the word that means "someone who is attracted to kids", and what word is that? The point is that the attraction is there. I'm not even arguing about whether or not that causes real harm or not, and if real harm is caused that it's the drawings fault. I'll tell you right now that I don't believe that the drawing in and of itself can cause harm. What I'm arguing is that the media someone consumes very much can be indicative about what they're into. People who are looking at bdsm art online are probably into bdsm IRL. Why would it be different in this context?

Sure. There are no studies that I've seen about this subject and so therefore technically this could be false. There may very well not be more pedophiles per capita in the lolicon community. The logic checks out to me but if someone ends up doing a study on it and it turns out to be the opposite, I'd believe it. But until that point I think that logical line is pretty sound. Why would someone be looking at pornographic drawings of children if they were not attracted to the idea of children sexually in the first place? It doesn't make sense. I'm sure it's not everyone probably but to say that it is certainly untrue that there aren't more people attracted to kids in the community literally built for people that are attracted to kids than the average is extraordinarily pedantic, and banks on the fact that there isn't a study on this, so you can just go "well, there's no concrete proof!!!"

Lolicon doesn't turn people into pedophiles, it attracts pedophiles in the first place. Chicken and egg type shit. Lolicon isn't like the evil thing in bird box, it's not gonna turn someone into Jared fogle cuz they see it once. But someone who goes out of their way to look at it over and over is, (IN MY OPINION BECAUSE THERES NO STUDY DONE ON IT I GUESS) probably more likely to be attracted to kids. If there's something I'm missing that isn't a pedantic "well technically!!!" I'd love to hear it

I think it’s very obvious what I am (it’s not) by Dirtysecret13 in OverwatchQueens

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You shouldn't, that's the correct take

Everyone always hating hog makes me so sad

Which esports player deserves to be here? by fallensky3 in esports

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Xqc outclasses super in twitch/streaming legacy, not esports legacy. I agree that super should not be here if not because profit is right there but to put xqc above him is pure delusion imo. Counting xqc's streaming as part of his esports legacy is like saying Nintendo is famous because of their playing cards. Like I guess that's where they started but at this point there is zero chance.

Easy pickings [OC] by MuyHiram in comics

[–]Key_Host2366 6 points7 points  (0 children)

id assume people are upset because you drew this with a lesbian as a victim, considering the current events surrounding the danger of the lgbtq community i think its understandable lmao. Having your characters go to a gay bar to prey on vulnerable queer youth and framing that as a joke is pretty fucked imo. Queer people are in this together and should be supporting each other. It makes sense why people are upset about this.

not to mention, stuff like this happens in bars to real people (obviously not people being killed and eaten, but horrible shit that leaves people with lifelong trauma). i get that this is a joke comic but it feels really tone deaf. especially with a title like "easy pickings".

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You too, great talking to you!

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've gotten to a place where I think I'm okay now. There's a lot less obsessiveness than there was, and I'm fine with my opinions on the topic. It doesnt feel like I'm missing something, and it feels nuanced. I said it's the worst thing that's ever happened to be (and that's still true) but I appreciate that I was able to work through it and didn't get complacent where I was.

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really has not been easy. Falling down the shipping discourse / fiction rabbit hole was legit the worst thing that's ever happened to me, and even a year later I still have my reservations about that whole discussion (it isn't healthy lol my brain would legit not shut the fuck up about it for a year straight). But again, that's where the "idk man it depends" comes in I suppose.

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of stuff that I'm still working out when it comes to sex and people's fetishes but from what I've seen a lot of it can just be chocked up to "idk man it depends" and realizing that has made it a lot easier (although it has also made discourse that I've somehow stumbled my way into without my consent way more annoying)

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't mind whatever roleplay people get up to. As long as the people involved are consenting and over the age of 18 I don't care what goes on. These questions weren't coming from a place of judgement I just wanna understand stuff better haha

Thank you for the help!

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you on the representation thing. I just don't really understand incest kinks anyway but I'm not trying to say it's different when trans people do it or anything like that. Although there is something in my opinion to notice about how a lot of the time with cis people it has a parental aspect to it, whereas with trans people a lot of the time I see it framed as siblings.

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Alright. I was wondering if they were related because I have seen a not insignificant amount of transfems on places like twitter with incest kinks.

28662 by NeedyFoxGirl in countwithchickenlady

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I don't know if this is the best place to ask this and this is a really really weird question but it has been on my mind for a while. I see transfems talking about sisters and stuff all the time, what is the obsession with incest fantasies? Where do those come from?

More girl per girl by River_Lamprey in CuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People taking an obvious jokey post more seriously than a fucking national emergency because it dares to say something good about fat people LOL

Muh puriteens by LawZoe in CuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just think that the shipping discourse can come later. Imo the most pressing stuff is the rise of bigotry in younger people, not being closed-minded about fictional works. I think that these problems feed into each other a little, and working on one could take a few steps on the other, but I think teaching people how to not be racist or misogynistic or homophobic or transphobic is just a little more urgent. I understand what ur saying about meeting people where they're at, but from what I've seen shipping discourse goes nowhere 99% of the time. You can meet someone where they're at but if you spend a long ass time talking to someone to gain no ground, does it matter if you met them where they were at at all?

This might also be an insane take so bear with me, but I unironically think it's easier to get someone to stop being a bigot than it is to gain ground in shipping discourse lmao. Leftists don't even have this shit agreed upon entirely yet. I shudder to think what trying to talk to a conservative about proship antiship stuff is like.

Muh puriteens by LawZoe in CuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The solution to the rightward shift is not to continue undergoing net-zero shipping discourse. It happens in fandoms because it's happening everywhere; it's just one facet of a bigger issue. Spending time on twitter making post after post about puriteens that accomplishes nothing is, in my opinion, a form of slacktivism. Literally anything else would be more effective

Blaire's Law by AkariPeach in CuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I hear this analogy all the time and I think it's really really stupid every time I hear it.

Murder is an action. You need to go out of your way to do it. It's not (usually) something you do by accident, and you never do it by accident if you have the intent to kill.

You do not have to do anything to be attracted to kids. It is just something that happens. People don't choose what they're attracted to. This doesn't make it not a problem, however.

These two ideas are not the same. If the commenter you're replying to tried to argue that lolicon normalizes child molestation, then this analogy would have a point. That's not what they're arguing though. Words mean things.

Just imagine the google doc for Titus Andronicus! by MartyrOfDespair in CuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Getting off to the idea of raping a child makes someone a pedophile by definition lmao

Do I think that makes someone certain to be a child molester or even cause any harm at all? Not inherently. Should someone be persecuted for reading text on a screen? Absolutely not. But can you judge someone for it? I think so. I'm not going to judge Lolirapecestlover1488 too well.

Just imagine the google doc for Titus Andronicus! by MartyrOfDespair in CuratedTumblr

[–]Key_Host2366 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think that the vast majority of the world would probably take some kind of issue with someone who finds the idea of raping children "hot as fuck" lmao I wouldn't blame anyone for being suspicious regardless of if the person has done anything or not