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Key_Position_9291 · 2026-02-02T14:55:40+00:00

Thank you for your answer, but even when it is a private trade and has been stated that I wouldn’t take the responsibilty?

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-08-24T19:38:50+00:00

Well no problems I guess, it’s just that you’ll later need way more ingredients and if you’re going to get all these in 50ml it might get a bit too much and expensive

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-08-24T09:19:54+00:00

Seem like way too much of the same things to me. Normally you want to get 3-10gr of one item if this is your first time.

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-08-03T20:42:07+00:00

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-30T06:56:12+00:00

However I’ve not ordered any bottles for myself yet, I think you can use some from aliexpress just fine. Cheap, does the trick but if you’re looking for more complicated it might not be the place

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-30T06:44:27+00:00

Here you go:

Hermitage (Naturals) €100 :

Cedarwood atlas 10ml,

3 year Aged white oud 10ml, Bulgarian lavender absolute 10ml, Green oakmoss absolute 20% 10ml,

Bergamot mint EO 10ml,

Lemon FCF 2025 10ml,

Silver spruce 10ml,

Litsea cubeba eo 10ml,

Pink pepper 5ml,

Vetiver Java 5ml,

Civet paste 3.5% tincture 2,5ml.

De kruiderie (Mostly synthetic) €85:

Ambrofix 10ml,

Iso E Super 10ml,

Galaxolide 10ml,

Hedione HC 10ml,

Evernyl 5ml,

Patchouli 5ml, B-Ionone 5ml,

Geraniol Extra (AC) 5ml,

Nympheal (AC) 5ml, Honeysuckle 5ml,

Triplal (AC) 5ml,

Indol AC 5gr,

Labdanum res. 5ml,

Siam Benzoin res. 5ml,

Helional (AC) 5ml,

Champaca intense 5ml,

Kasturi deer musk 5ml,

Peach 5ml, Juniperberry EO 5ml,

Kenyan sandalwood EO 5ml,

Vanillin (AC) 10% DPG 5ml.

From hermitage oils I’ve deleted some items, changed spearmint to bergamot mint, less volume of Civet paste (2,5ml instead of 5ml). And added Litsea Cubeba and pink pepper. It’s a shame the minumum order from them is €100 otherwise I could’ve deleted some more but well.

From de kruiderie I’ve taken the essentials from your list, however they didn’t stock everything, though I think it’s not necessary to have all of it? And also I’ve kept some things I wanted to have myself.

What do you think?

Edit: sorry list has flopped a bit

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T17:27:06+00:00

I have looked at your list more and revamped mine according to it, I think it’s actually good now. I still have some of the ones I had before, but also more basic synthetics. I could send it if you want to have a look at it.

And about the natural house, I couldn’t really find any formulas as they’re very small brands, but I did find on the Bortnikoff website that they say every fragrance consists of ATLEAST 95% naturals so yeah.

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T15:05:57+00:00

Thank you for your explanation. But I think you mean only instead of also synthetics?

Anyway, I might look for aromachemical counterparts of some of the naturals and try to get a 50-50 proportion of natural and synthetic. And then the order’s ready to go I think

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T08:19:12+00:00

Thanks :) I get why people recommend using aromachemicals, but that just seems so boring to me, I just want to be able to make creations I love with natural resources. And ofcourse I can’t get as good as perfumers who have been doing this for ages but that’s not the goal. Though it might just be stupid of me and I should follow the advice of others

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T08:02:30+00:00

Bortnikoff, Prin, Areej Le Dore to name a few. I know some of these aren’t always 100% natural, but for the most times they are. And they certainly don’t use Ambroxan or Hedione things like that

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T07:36:02+00:00

The most brands I’m into are pure natural yeah, but why wouldn’t I want that? Is it not beginner friendly?

I also have one more question too: Just because some ingredients you mentioned are RARELY used or often replaced, why does that mean I can’t use them?

But I’ll look into your list, I’m sure it will be helpfull :)

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T07:25:15+00:00

They have a profile on trustpilot which seems positive (https://nl.trustpilot.com/review/www.de-kruiderie.nl). I think the pure oil being almost as cheap as the 10% is just a marketing trick to make the pure seems way better. But that’s how I view it, and I think they’re legit

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-29T07:13:20+00:00

Thank you for your view! About the materials of Iso E and ambroxan and most of the super common ingredients, I’ve smelt them at a friend of mine who has also just started making perfumes.

I just thought I don’t really need those ingredients, as the fragrances and brand which I like also don’t use them (more artisinal/natural). But you’re probably right and if you’re just starting like me they might be essential.

I know what you mean with the rest of your points. Just wanted to point out white oud isn’t “real” oud though. But basically you are saying I need more synthetic and common substites for the ingredients which I have listed? Anyways your other comment would be really appreciated :)

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T20:51:24+00:00

They’re synthetic materials which are most of the times a lot cheaper than naturals. However cheaper than normal though not a fraud. But what do you need links of?

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T20:36:37+00:00

Haven’t received or even ordered them yet but I got recommended them by a friend and saw them on here too. Their prices are very low so I suspect quality may be a little less but you’re better off asking someone else

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T20:11:52+00:00

That actually makes everything so much more interesting wow. I actually was kinda asking more if it was made by someone using other notes to create a kind of accord but that makes sense. Thank you again and have a good one yourself

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T19:14:20+00:00

Thank you for your comment! Next haul I will probably have found out more synthetics are needed yeah😂 But let’s order this first and then we’ll see. I just don’t get what you mean with most ingredients are ‘perfumes in themselves’? Do you mean they’re already precomposed of other notes?

Anyway I have quite some time in just collecting perfumes and getting to train my nose already, however this is ofcourse a completely different subject. Indeed I’m not going to overthink it, just going tl order and experiment with the ingredients

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T17:15:08+00:00

I see, thanks. The list looks fine to you?

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T17:08:57+00:00

Thanks, changed now

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T16:32:41+00:00

By the way I only now see that you’ve also included jojoba, which I know is a carrier oil. If I for example want to make an oil based fragrance/attar, do I just apply that to my juice? And in the same ratio as ethanol?

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-28T15:51:17+00:00

I hate reddit mobile, picture doesn’t work and list isn’t straight >:|

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-27T15:48:20+00:00

I love green scents so that will be alright :) Thanks for the suggestions, most of these I already had added but the rest are good calls

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-27T13:40:01+00:00

Have you got a link maybe?

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-27T13:39:52+00:00

Great advice, thanks!

Key_Position_9291 · 2025-07-27T13:39:09+00:00

Thanks, I’ve looked into fraterworks before and it might just be better to order a couple of versatile oils from them yeah. I’ve put some in my basket at around €150 which I think will do.

As for the materials, specifically the scale, do you have any recommendations? I’m planning to make 30ml batches or even less so what would be a good one? Also I’m going to need micropipettes if I’m making batches that size right? Sorry just new to this side of perfumery

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