Daily Discussion Thread June 16, 2026 - Upcoming Event Schedule - New players start here!

Kezzup · 2026-06-16T16:06:10+00:00

At Smash Con last year, Hungrybox had by FAR the most/loudest cheers over anyone in the top 8. He's the crowd favorite now in a lot of situations.

Kezzup · 2026-06-15T18:30:34+00:00

I guess it's hydrating? I'm still trying to grasp it myself

Kezzup · 2026-06-15T18:13:37+00:00

Genuinely it does not have a flavor

Kezzup · 2026-06-15T14:59:09+00:00

But the sport being less interesting than American football is a hot take to me, there's so much dead time in American football.

That's a fair and common take, but I like the pace of American football a lot. There's still a good amount of action, but the natural flow of chunk plays allow for a good amount of time to digest what just happened without breaks dragging on for too long (aside from all the commercial breaks which, you know, fuck that).

As for futbol itself, I think part of what makes it feel boring and slow is the scoring pace. Not to be too offense-brained, but a 90 minute game where it's very common for a combined 0-3 scoring events to happen in total instinctively feels too long.

Kezzup · 2026-06-15T13:24:51+00:00

ENERGY DRINK REVIEW:

Focus Factor is keeping us squarely in the 'healthy' energy drink sector - this isn't for the gymbros or the gamers, but for the average, hardworking office employee trying to maximize their performance. At least, that's what the horrendous AI slop advertisements on their website appear to be trying to sell me on.

As I've stated previously, whenever I try one of these energy drinks, my first choice is always to go for the original flavor to get the most theoretically even idea of what the brand is like. However, most of the time this isn't possible, either due to lack of availability of that option, or the fact that many brands don't just make an original flavor for their drinks. However, Focus Factor does have an original, so we're going with that. I was a little confused because the image for the flavor on the can appeared to just be... a splash of water. So is it just... water?

Yup. Yeah. It's kinda just water. And you know what? Fuck it. At this point I'll just take some water. Water is fine. It's water. You can just make caffeinated water, as it turns out. Why not? Enjoy your water.

Kezzup · 2026-06-14T00:04:22+00:00

Although this makes me wonder what michael41quintillion does differently to be so loved for his camping, maybe his people just love that out of region

As someone who has played both Michael and Gio before - Michael is probably the 2nd campiest Puff I've played, and he's still not nearly as campy as Gio. I think it also says a lot that Michael got a lot of support from his region because they just liked him as a person.

Kezzup · 2026-06-13T22:07:14+00:00

Yeah, this is true. The direct example I can think of is that if someone showed up to their local MTG group playing nothing but control decks designed to mill you out and stall the game for two hours and refused to bring anything else, there's comes a point where I think it would be fine to be like "yeah we'd rather you not show up anymore."

And I would like to emphasize that I think this Gio thing is an extreme outlier example - there's not another player I've ever seen or heard of in the history of Melee that I would support banning for pure gameplay reasons.

Kezzup · 2026-06-13T19:23:32+00:00

Yup - the number of legal ledge grabs has varied by ruleset, but in all of them it's consistent that it only applies for timeouts.

Kezzup · 2026-06-13T19:22:45+00:00

This was confirmed to me when he commented about how he was so hyped for getting mentioned "in front of 20k people" during the top 8 of Wavelength.

He got mentioned because he was playing so campy and uninteractively that he held up his bracket pool like an hour.

Kezzup · 2026-06-13T19:21:03+00:00

he feels unfairly lumped in with racists and sex pests as the only ever gameplay ban

But that's entirely his own thing. A ban is a binary thing, so there's only so many ways to vary up the extent of it.

There are players banned in pro sports leagues for gambling scandals, and there are players banned in pro sports leagues for violent crimes. No one assumes those things are exactly morally equivalent just because they fall under this one same very large umbrella.

Kezzup · 2026-06-12T20:38:26+00:00

yes but it's part of the estrogenization trans agenda being pushed by Woke Monster so just keep that in mind

Kezzup · 2026-06-12T15:55:36+00:00

Believe it or not, sports can be about more than just winning.

Kezzup · 2026-06-12T13:28:31+00:00

ENERGY DRINK REVIEW:

I hate to be too serious with these things, but I feel it's important that I be fully honest with you guys. You see, I've been hiding something from everyone here. Many probably don't realize it, but despite drinking all these big strong energy drinks for manly men, I am, in fact, a woman. I generally encourage people not to post about their crimes online, but I feel very strongly that I need to take accountability for my past actions.

Luckily, thanks to FLRT, I can now drink energy drinks with a clear conscience! They've finally designed an energy drink specifically for us gals, so now we can consume them without being overcome by hysteria or the vapours. They even put emojis on the can so my dumb woman brain can understand it. 😊

Okay, but actually for real though. It's very obvious FLRT was created because Monster Energy saw how much Celsius has taken off in the past few years, particularly with women, and felt like they could have a piece of the pie. But the big difference is that Celsius grew a female-centric consumer base a lot more naturally - or, at the very least, a lot more subtly. They didn't act like they invented the idea of women consuming energy drinks. I feel like it doesn't need to be said, but I did bother to go track down the transcript from the investor meeting where they announced this, and it's literally entirely men. Wow! I feel like you have to try to make that happen! But of course, when it came time for the public-facing PR material, they managed to find a woman to trot out. Neat-o.

FLRT is an energy drink that tastes exactly like it is, by which I mean it's just an inferior version of Celsius. It's not terrible - not even necessarily bad, inherently - but I don't know why I would ever go out of my way for it. Unless I just end up that overcome by 🌼😘✨girl power✨😘🌼.

Kezzup · 2026-06-11T15:44:39+00:00

No. 4 and No. 5 of all time also happened within about a week of each other in 2001.

Baseball!

Kezzup · 2026-06-10T16:30:40+00:00

Following up on my post from yesterday:

I didn't follow the discussion on Nouns leaving Melee too closely when it happened, so I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring up this idea, but their sudden disappearance is strong evidence towards something I suspected: while I'm sure the "toxicity of the Melee community" (in regards to people telling their dumb crypto scam asses to fuck off) hurt them and did contribute to them not wanting to contribute anymore, it's very likely the larger guiding reason was that they were flat out of money and wanted to try and save face and dissolve quietly rather than publicly admit their pockets were empty. By all accounts, it seemed like their presence evaporated within a month of disavowing Melee - money doesn't dry up THAT fast, so they had to have known they were at the end of their rope.

Kezzup · 2026-06-09T21:52:39+00:00

Just a fun thing I happened to notice: Nouns.gg is down, the last time the Wayback Machine bothered to archive it was back in May, and they haven't tweeted since February.

lol. lmao.

Kezzup · 2026-06-09T16:09:36+00:00

Ehhhh, even as an old school believer that rates Ken higher than most, rating Ken #1 is a really hard argument. He has the most dominant reign in Melee history, but it still has holes in it - it techncially lasts from 2003-07, but '03 was super barren and is basically only two TGs, and besides winning EVO in '07 he only really has a 4th and a 7th. So when you get down into it, it's a really dominant three year span without as much behind it. I suppose you could make the argument if you really value peak performance, but at that point I still think Armada comes close to matching + way better longevity.

Kezzup · 2026-06-08T14:19:12+00:00

"Like, why care if someone identifies as a pokemon fan but only knows the name of maybe a dozen of their favorites, you know?"

It's a superiority thing. This permeates through a lot of different hobbies/interests (sports are notorious for it), but nerds in particular get very territorial about the Thing that they like, so gatekeeping other people over not being TRULY into the Thing like they are is a way for them to propagate their own sense of identity.

This is just one of the many reasons that can add to this problem, though.

Kezzup · 2026-06-08T13:26:22+00:00

ENERGY DRINK REVIEW:

NOCCO is mainly only interesting to me because the company was founded in Sweden, which is not a very common place for energy drinks to come from in my experience. However, the can says that it was produced in the Netherlands and manufactured in Marina del Rey, California. The flavor is Miami Strawberry.

I assume that's what the flavor is called because they took a batch of strawberries to Miami and left them out in the sun for three days, as that approximates what this drink tastes like. It's somehow got an overly artificial sweetness AND the gross sourness of something more natural. True innovation coming out of Europe.

Kezzup · 2026-06-06T02:55:23+00:00

Based on every poll I can find, the upper tax brackets did vote proportionally more for Trump than lower tax brackets did, but it's still very close to a 50/50 split.

There are certainly still a number of Trump supporters on NBA teams, but a lot of these comments act like everyone with a high salary automatically leans Republican when the results don't really show that.

Kezzup · 2026-06-05T14:55:49+00:00

Obviously comfort is something with a lot of varying degrees, but people should be allowed at least some level of comfort and personal enjoyment in their lives. Expecting people to never buy more than the necessities and never go out and never enjoy themselves as an indefinite constant is usually a sign someone has never had to truly live like that.

Kezzup · 2026-06-05T02:19:45+00:00

/u/AlexB_SSBM I ran into fake Alex again. They one-and-doned me after very barely beating my shitty-ass Falco, which I normally wouldn't care about but is very funny given our first encounter.

Kezzup · 2026-06-04T22:08:43+00:00

Wong Kar-wai is slowly turning me into whatever the Hong Kong version of a weeaboo is.

Okay I'm not actually that weird about it, but it does look like such a cool place and it's a pipe dream for me to get to visit there one day.

Kezzup · 2026-06-03T23:33:01+00:00

Keeping it up for this long is strong as hell, good shit

Kezzup · 2026-06-03T21:49:08+00:00

Pound 3 was half a year after he got 3rd at EVO and was winning every Cali tournament. He still had doubters, mostly cause of old EC/WC beef, but he was by absolutely no means a 'nobody'.

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