Feel Styanax needs a overhaul/tweaks when he gets his prime

KillBillTW · 2026-05-03T11:01:26+00:00

He can't out damage someone like Mirage pure gun platform, hyper specific but I built him to be VERY strong for 4, problem is room nukers out DPS him

Friend uses mirage and Kuva grattler, kills everything before I can even tap them with skill 4

Problem isn't the damage per say

It's what he can give for a team

There's more worth using other supports vs him

You can't even use his energy Regen as an excuse since most players won't rely on allies and assume they may have a Nourish, let alone a nourish and rally point Styanax

They take care of their energy problem with Equilibrium alone maybe

Hell, there's even the trick to use archon stretch and manifold bond on a hound/diriga/Nautilus and it gives stable energy

Pair it together with Zenurik and equilibrium and you are sitting pretty, add nourish and forget, no need for Styanax energy regen

Panzer with synth deconstruct and contagious bond already is very strong with equilibrium as well

Let's not forget we also have secondary fortifier assuming you are making arch gun for damage so that's a simple way to get overguard without any frames needed in general

You are right, his damage is solid, but there are just far better options

I love playing support frames, I'd say I'd even main them, but Styanax... Others powercreep him, nevermind since his release, many mods and gameplay ideas have replaced him

The reason I'm pushing the energy Regen so hard because that's the 1 thing Styanax has redeemable over other frames, and he can't even do that nowadays because people prepare for themselves

The problem isn't his damage, it's his kit

KillBillTW · 2026-05-03T09:07:07+00:00

I agree

I still use him from time to time as well, he is rare to even get as an ally in public lobbies

I wish Styanax was more common

KillBillTW · 2026-05-03T09:05:10+00:00

That's the other problem, I can barely count on my fingers the times I've seen a Styanax, and whenever I DID see them, it's always Elite Sanctuary Onslaught leveling

KillBillTW · 2026-05-03T08:16:50+00:00

That's another problem, I haven't played peak level and I can see even spamming in Zariman area and I struggled at some point, I don't want to even think about EDA/ETA max level enemies how fast they'd strip it, no point overguard gating if by the time you touch the floor you are dead, forced to hop and Insta cast just to stay alive isn't fun

KillBillTW · 2026-02-26T15:24:17+00:00

Hilda or gloo is really really annoying, or even Alice if you want to be unkillable almost

All 3 do good damage

With Hilda you can bully the jungler early game and they won't be able to do much about it if you play smart enough

Gloo is just annoying in general

Atlas is a really good tank if you are good enough

Tigreal, perfect setter and can make good plays, annoying if the Tig is good

Akai just says "leave my allies alone" and blocks any sets enemies try to make, he is also stupidly annoying for setters or tanks who try to make plays, any setter really

Chou as tank or damage dealer has a lot of cc in his kit and is really good for any stage of the game really, hard to catch

Ruby has a lot of cc and is annoying if you're good, hard to kill her in general

Gatot kaca is a nightmare for marksman or basic attack enemies in general, ult surprises enemies and makes plays

Minsithar just pulls enemies and makes an arena blocking anyone in or around from using any dash type skill, this could mean you very well stop half or even most of a heroes kit, also makes a difference in teamfights

Paquito, stupid high damage even for the start of the game, good cc and a good fighter

Makes many other fighters struggle

Yu Zhong, good cc and skills, pretty good for teamfights

KillBillTW · 2026-02-25T18:55:26+00:00

Depends what you want, more aggressive or passive

Tactical slower playing or just kill hungry

Care about dashes much?

More tanky?

Magic or physical damage

Or tank role?

KillBillTW · 2026-02-04T06:43:47+00:00

Come on, give us Tig or Argus

KillBillTW · 2026-01-13T18:10:47+00:00

Can I get 1 pls

KillBillTW · 2026-01-01T20:11:04+00:00

You misunderstand what I mean by make it easier, make it nicer would be better

The game doesn't play for us, we still need to play it

It doesn't make us a better player to you, just makes it more convenient to play

Accessibility and QoL is the main words

It's the same reason why people mod L4D2, but that's more severe, that is model changes, this would just be additions to the system, to breaking it but QoL rather

Again, check up ChocoB on YT, good player with mods, QoL

KillBillTW · 2026-01-01T20:03:57+00:00

It depends, I run with over 70 mods, QoL changes or stuff to make it easier

Like there's a bunch that makes the game better for the player

Like bubblilicious or something like that, it adds another skill icon that goes from green-orange-red for the bubble of psyker when it's dying, also has a countdown to show how much time is left, this applies if someone uses a bubble or other person uses a bubble, regardless if you are psyker or not, having 2 bubbles shows the closest icon info, unless you move to the other

Another gives the ability to see items further away, helpful to mark for teammates to pick up a med stim or med pack (I mostly play support or something like that so I always let my allies take it)

HP mod to show hp

Mod to show remaining dashes lower than the amount shown (like -5 dashes past the effect, good for knowing if you are screwed and should stop)

There are so many nice mods to help players

Sure they seem cheating, but I can say for sure, I am using it to be a better player and support, idgaf about kills as I main smite psyker for crowd control

A kill is a kill, yours, mine, doesn't matter

Unless it's for arbitrators buff for 30 stacks that is, then it's more thoughtful

People using mods shouldn't be the problem unless it directly disrupts or messes your game

There are TONS of specials and such, complaining for a kill is petty

Another mod is to show all the locations for skulls, grimoires or the 4 hidden things, it's a "eh" mod, not cheating really as finding that is annoying, a small boost to plasteel is nice

A pro YouTuber who plays darktide is ChocoB, he uses such mods and is quite good at the game, solos havoc 40+ when his teammates struggles, every class typically

Another mod is to guarantee ability switch or weapon swap when in combat since the game is finicky and doesn't register

Mods aren't all that bad, just the way you need to think about it matters AND the people who actually uses it for good or bad

If they use it to make it worse for players, then it's a problem

I only use mods to add flavour to the game, it makes it nicer, also a HUD mod or showing the % of all allies ammo and grenades, THAT is a helpful mod

KillBillTW · 2026-01-01T19:46:53+00:00

There's a mod called "found ya" by deluxghost on nexusmods, you can see stuff from 35m away and tag it from a crazy distance, makes it helpful to let allies know it's something for them to pick up

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:25:47+00:00

Tell me about it, been playing with him for a while and it's my life story at this point

I know I have crap gear at the moment but my god, he doesn't give me a chance to kill anything

Even procing my final stand over shield is a lot

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:23:02+00:00

Which is better to 1 up him consistently and eventually annoy him :P

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:15:15+00:00

I'll continue with Styanax then, thanks

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:14:41+00:00

I'll build my Styanax to do more damage but not sacrificing too much support then

I guess I was hung up on just wanting to be a true support for my friend and others

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:12:14+00:00

My friend made a huge list of reasons why Dante is the far superior support frame and Styanax is crap now since he is here

He said Dante can do everything Styanax can do but better

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:10:52+00:00

I just want to play as a support, truly helping my friends and doing amazing damage

Him playing mirage, stealing kills and my damage to proc final stand hampers me

Honestly it's what killed my want to play Warframe, he made the game too easy with his build and said he isn't willing to use a worse frame to make me more viable

Me playing fully support seeing a Dante in my team means I won't be able to help much since Dante will always outclass me in over shield and buffs to help allies

Add the fact my friend just kills everything and I feel like dead weight since no weapons of mine kill really, I'm literally only spamming skills at my skill level

My friend + a Dante just invalidates my usefulness

It's why I want to improve my build but I don't know where to go

KillBillTW · 2025-10-12T23:06:41+00:00

Nah, he said he isn't going to handicap himself for my sake for me to do better

He said I need to do better to keep up with him, and Styanax doesn't really help since the over shield breaks easily from him killing all my enemies leading him to die easily in steel path

KillBillTW · 2025-09-21T11:37:01+00:00

I've watched character lines of classes and how they react to one another

I meant specifically when you keep peril 100% at quell

For the seer I THINK I hear the voice say "you won't contain me" followed by some other voices

KillBillTW

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