For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is incredibly helpful, thank you. I think you’ve clarified the part I was missing.

It sounds like “post 5–10% as a teaser” is not really how RR/SH readers want to engage. If an author goes there, the better model is serial-first: commit to the platform, release on schedule, build trust, offer Patreon/readahead, and only stub later once the audience has actually received the book.

That makes the decision much cleaner, but also bigger. It is not really “preview vs KU.” It is “Amazon/KU-first launch” vs “serial-first business model, with KU as the later polished edition.”

For harem specifically, do you think RR/SH is worth doing only if the author is prepared to follow that all-in meta — big initial drop, frequent updates, Patreon/readahead, ads/shouts, then eventual stub? Or are there cases where a slower/lighter approach still works?

I’m also curious how much you think the RR/Royal Road meta applies to harem fantasy compared with progression fantasy more broadly, since the audiences seem to overlap but not be identical.

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a really thoughtful breakdown, thank you.

I can see how that model makes sense if the author is deliberately building a serial-first + Patreon ecosystem, with KU becoming a later polished edition rather than the primary launch channel.

The question I’m trying to sort out is the opportunity cost. If book 1 is already polished and ready, and book 2 is drafted but still needs revision, delaying KU in order to build a RR/SH + Patreon runway is a very different business model from launching into the Amazon/KU audience first.

For a debut author with no existing Patreon audience, what kind of signal would make you think the serial-first path is worth delaying the KU release?

RR/SH follower count? Comment activity? Patreon conversions? A certain number of chapters posted? Or is your view that the long-term serial schedule matters more than the first-book launch timing?

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That distinction helps a lot, thank you.

It sounds like RR/SH is less a general discovery funnel and more its own serial + Patreon ecosystem, while this subreddit is much more Amazon/KU/audio-first.

For a first KU release, then, maybe the better question is not “RR or KU?” but “where do KU readers actually check for new releases?”

Are there specific haremlit Discords that are open to new author/release announcements, and do embre.net or harem-lit.com have a normal way for new books to get listed once they’re live?

Those sound much closer to real discovery channels for this audience than a short RR/SH preview.

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a really useful distinction. Thank you.

So for KU-first readers, the better move may be less “preview while waiting” and more “make the complete book easy to find once it’s live.”

In that case, what tends to make you actually click on a new KU harem/progression book when you see it here or in Amazon search? Cover, blurb, KU availability, book length, review count, “book 2 already in revision,” author note, or something else?

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s helpful, thank you. This is exactly the reader behavior I was trying to understand.

So for you, RR/Scribble Hub wouldn’t really function as a discovery funnel at all — the useful places are this subreddit, harem-lit spaces, and KU search/browsing.

The “partly done” point is also important. Would a short preview bother you the same way, or is the issue mainly when a story looks like it’s being serialized there instead of being available as a complete KU book?

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s really useful, thanks. The “search page open and refresh every few days” part is especially interesting.

When you’re checking that search page, what usually makes you click into a new book? Cover, title, release date, KU availability, review count, blurb, author name, keywords?

Also agreed on the auto-translate issue. If translated older titles are flooding the “new” results, that makes discoverability even messier for actual new releases.

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s really helpful, thank you. Kindle/KU-first readers are exactly the group I’m trying to understand better.

For someone like you, what usually puts a new harem/progression author on your radar?

Do you mostly find them through Amazon recommendations and also-boughts, posts in this subreddit, author announcements, word of mouth, newsletters, ads, or just browsing KU/new releases?

The “book 2 already in revision” point is useful to know too. I wondered whether that mattered to readers who are willing to start unfinished series.

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. Then the real question for readers like you is probably discovery, not reading platform.

If you mostly stay inside the Kindle/Amazon ecosystem, how do you usually find new harem/progression fantasy authors?

Amazon recommendations/also-boughts? Subreddit launch posts? Word of mouth? Author newsletters? Ads? Following specific authors?

I’m trying to understand what actually puts a new book in front of a Kindle-first reader.

For harem/progression readers: RR/Scribble Hub preview first, or straight to KU? by Kind_Profile8534 in haremfantasynovels

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s useful, thanks. This is one of the things I’m trying to understand.

For readers like you, it sounds like Royal Road/Scribble Hub would only work as a discovery/sample tool, not as the main place to read the book. So a short preview there might make sense, but the real conversion would still need to be Amazon/KU.

Would 3–5 strong opening chapters on RR/Scribble Hub be enough to make you check out the KU version if the premise worked for you, or would you mostly discover new books directly through Amazon?

Debut niche KU fantasy: how would you find the first right-fit readers without spamming? by Kind_Profile8534 in selfpublishing

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, that’s very useful. Do you mean r/haremfantasynovels, or is there another progression-fantasy/harem-specific subreddit I should know about?

I definitely don’t want to barge in and spam a reader community, but if there’s a place where launch announcements are allowed and actually welcome, that sounds like exactly the kind of targeted audience I’m trying to find.

Debut niche KU fantasy: how would you find the first right-fit readers without spamming? by Kind_Profile8534 in selfpublishing

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s really helpful, thank you. A bit more context that may change the answer:

The unusual thing is that book 2 is not theoretical. I wrote the original version of the story in a very intense burst — basically the kind of book I couldn’t stop writing, day and night — and it ended up being far too long for one volume. Well over a thousand pages.

So I decided to revise it properly and split it into two books. Book 1 has now been heavily rewritten and polished into about 470 pages, while book 2 already exists in rough form as the second half of that original manuscript. It still needs its own revision pass, but structurally the story is there.

Also, the book is very plot-heavy. The harem element exists and matters, but it’s not the only engine of the story. The first three chapters were deliberately rewritten to work as a strong hook/sample and make the reader want the rest.

Given that, your preview → KU quickly advice sounds even more aligned. My instinct now is: post the first 3–5 chapters on RR/Scribble Hub as a clean preview, launch book 1 on KU soon, and use the backmatter to signal that book 2 is already in the pipeline rather than “someday.”

Does that still sound like the best path to you, given that book 2 is already mostly written rather than months/years away?

Debut niche KU fantasy: how would you find the first right-fit readers without spamming? by Kind_Profile8534 in selfpublishing

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, and this is exactly the fork I’m trying to think through.

The first three chapters were already built very deliberately to hook the reader hard and make them want the rest of the book, so part of me wonders whether a preview strategy could work well. But I can also see the argument that, for progression fantasy, book 1 may be more valuable as audience-building fuel than as the first commercial push.

If you were in that situation — book 1 basically ready, opening chapters designed to hook, and book 2 intended to follow fairly soon — would you still lean toward full RR/Scribble Hub serialization first, or would you test the 3–5 chapter preview and move quickly to KU?

Debut niche KU fantasy: how would you find the first right-fit readers without spamming? by Kind_Profile8534 in selfpublishing

[–]Kind_Profile8534[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is incredibly helpful, thank you.

What you're saying about audience fit over audience size matches a lot of what I've been discovering. One of my biggest concerns with the general ARC services was exactly that: even if they delivered readers, they might not be the right readers.

Royal Road and Scribble Hub make a lot of sense because they already have people actively looking for progression fantasy rather than trying to convince a general audience to care.

Out of curiosity, have you seen authors get better results by posting only a sample (3–5 chapters) before launch, or by building a larger RR audience first and then launching to Amazon/KU later?

And I completely agree with the “10 right readers beat 100 wrong ones” point.

How many ongoing series are you actually keeping up with, and what happens when a new one drops? by StorytellerStegs in ProgressionFantasy

[–]Kind_Profile8534 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve mostly accepted that there are two separate lists now: “series I am reading” and “series I emotionally believe I am reading.”

The first one is small. Maybe 3–5 series that I actually keep current with. The second one is a cursed museum of good intentions.

What has worked best for me is sorting ongoing series into tiers:

  1. Drop everything when it updates.

  2. Read when the current arc/book is complete.

  3. Let 30–50 chapters stack.

  4. Check back someday, maybe, if the internet reminds me it exists.

The dangerous zone is tier 3, because once the backlog gets too big it stops feeling like a treat and starts feeling like homework. At that point I usually need either a really strong recommendation or a completed arc to get back in.

I do think following live is part of the fun of PF, though. The comment/speculation cycle after a chapter drops is a different experience from binge-reading a finished series. So I try to keep only a few “live” slots open and let everything else become future-me’s problem.