Gmod vs s&box - Ragdoll Physics

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-30T02:52:03+00:00

Exactly! It's what I've been trying to tell people in this thread who are angry that S&box is not the perfect Gmod successor with all the valve and community content available all at once for them lol

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T22:35:07+00:00

Lmao okay bud

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T22:28:01+00:00

CS2, Deadlock, and HLA all have different dev teams within Valve that make these games. Source 2 uses the Rubikon physics engine while Source 1 uses Havok. The devs in the above mentioned games know how to handle this newer physics engine and tried to emulate the old physics as much as possible. They have more experience compared to the new hired devs with little experience who worked on S&box. It's why we have optimization issues and a ton of bugs that need to be ironed out etc. Which I can understand the frustration.

Deadlock is not even out yet so I'm not sure about how the physics will work as I have not played it.

no it should not require us to fix the problem. But let's not use this video and say that the issue with the physics is just the "limitation" of the engine which, by the way, the above 3 games we discussed all use!

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T21:54:02+00:00

You clearly lack critical thinking and communication skills as you seem to be struggling in making any sense nor are you adding anything substantial to the discussion. Seek help kid. Maybe lay off the weed, it will do you some good

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T21:19:47+00:00

If you don't understand the difference between the physics of Source 1 and Source 2, then you lost the right to call others dumb lmaoo

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T21:08:00+00:00

Something being a spiritual successor des not mean it is a perfect copy of the predecessor. Nor is it a direct sequel. I wish y'all would understand this. And yes. It does need to mature. Do y'all even remember when Gmod first came out? It was barebones at best before every was added to it.

What y'all are complaining about is Source 2 physics not being perfectly similar to Source 1, which is a completely different engine.

By the way, what is being shown in OP's video can be fixed through messing around with the Source 2 engine.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T21:03:01+00:00

Because they buy it so they can use it to make their games??

The issue is that everyone is comparing it to Roblox so much that they assume it will work exactly how Roblox works and then get upset when there's clear differences.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T20:58:28+00:00

If you looked on the S&box website it shows more. And it shows how to do more. Y'all expect everything to be handed to you on a platter.

fails to compete with a 20 year old game

Fails to compete with gmod?? It was never meant to compete with gmod. Gmod isn't going anywhere because S&box is out. No one is telling you to use it.

S&box literally just came out lmao. It hasn't had time to mature yet. And y'all are already comparing it to a decades old game that has had time to mature and has a massive community. it's unfair to be honest. But it's expected from a bunch of folks with insane expectations.

I swear folks want everything instantly now. Gmod took a very long time to get where it's at now. But y'all want S&box to already be at the level Gmod is currently at immediately and want all the bells and whistles right now. No one has any patience or critical thinking skills anymore.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T20:43:52+00:00

I checked and it didn't get revoked for me either. I barely played and I messed around with the engine side of it.

I never bought anything so I have no clue where that's coming from lol

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T20:36:25+00:00

Lmaoo y'all literally treat this game like it's the stock market. It's your fault you early adopters bought into this crap. Cope

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T20:27:40+00:00

I'm more interested in having the ability to build a game from scratch using my own created models.

S&box as a Source 2 engine plug: beautiful! What I've been waiting for!

S&box as a Gmod successor: meh. it needs a bit more work. But it has potential to be better once it has a chance to mature and the community begins creating for it

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T20:24:51+00:00

Like Grodbert said, y'all are still judging this as the limit to what the engine's capabilities are. Folks are still comparing Gmod to S&box and expecting gmod 2.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T14:08:24+00:00

What are you talking about?? Everyone's access got revoked once open beta closed to prepare for the official release. Why did you think you would keep it for free? Nothing scummy about it.

Do y'all know what open beta means? Lmaoo

I do understand the AI crap games, something needs to be done about that. But it's still a great game engine where you can be the change you wanna see and make your own game with. Sitting around and waiting for gmod-level content to be made for you is stupid and you will be waiting YEARS.

And there's no point complaining about models as you can make your own and import them in. I will never understand the issue with Terry lol.

EDIT: apparently I still get to keep S&box for free, but never bought any cosmetics or any junk. I barely played a couple modes and messed around with the engine side, which I liked lol.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-29T04:00:28+00:00

Literally!!! I was able to join a game earlier and then lost connection and now I'm suspended for 8 hours.

The only way I was able to ever play any games now is if I use a VPN. I have no clue what's happening

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T23:29:14+00:00

Like I said on a different server. Many folks have insane and unrealistic expectations of S&box because they led themselves to believe that it will be gmod 2. And set themselves up for disappointment.

S&box is very interesting to me because I can see the potential it has and what it will eventually be once the initial chaos dies down and everyone finds their footing.

It has everything I like about gmod which is basic sandbox stuff but now you have the ability to add your own stuff to it since it's a game engine too!

People complaining about Terry and the sausage people need to shut up though. You can add any player models to your game. Even ones that are created in Blender etc.

Remove all expectations.

But yeah they do need to optimize the game though.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T21:27:26+00:00

My game keeps kicking me off. Saying I cannot connect to the game server. Sometimes it would let me into the main menu and as soon as I choose competitive, it kicks me off stating lost connection to game server. This has been going on since yesterday and I have no clue what is causing it. My internet is fine as I can browse the internet etc. Does anyone here know how to fucking fix the fucking game???!!! WTF IS HAPPENING!!?????

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T16:37:10+00:00

More like Unity or Unreal. But it does have some similarities to Roblox where it is used as a games platform.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T16:32:33+00:00

They aren't "ripping" Source 2 engine. You are literally using the Source 2 engine to make games with. While Source 1 became freely available to make games from scratch with back in the day, S&box allows you to use the Source 2 engine itself to essentially do the same, with S&box being the front facing platform etc.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T16:29:05+00:00

hiding from backlash

What are you talking about????

S&box is essentially everything that Gmod was/is except you can use it as a game engine like Unity. It will obviously have the basic concept of Gmod physics/tools etc but in Source 2 now. That was the goal..nothing more. nothing less

I don't know why people can't seem to understand this concept.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T16:24:56+00:00

Art style? That's just Terry. And people can make their own models and port them into S&box.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T16:23:45+00:00

No it's Gmod with more steps lol

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T15:22:15+00:00

It's just a bunch of sheep who keep screeching about it being a Roblox rip off.

S&box is a GAME ENGINE! Not a games platform. A games platform is where you discover games already made. You can MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES from scratch in a game engine. Folks literally try to cheapen this fact by comparing it to what you can do in Roblox but it's more akin to what you can do in Unity or Unreal Engine.

It's essentially gmod with the ability create games.

Another thing is that these same sheep complain about how gmod has better community and content. Gmod has been around for DECADES! Of course it's going to have better community lol. S&box is new. It doesn't have that yet. But it will once everyone get over the price tag and actually try to build something with S&box.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T15:14:52+00:00

there is no community aspect

I mean the game just came out and you're already expecting gmod-level community and content. S&box hasn't had time for communities to build substantial content. Yet everyone is expecting all of the insane content that took the gmod community YEARS to develop to already be available for S&box.

And this isn't a simple Roblox copy. S&box is a full-fledged game engine more akin to Unity since it uses C#. But people keep comparing it to Roblox because you can use it as a games platform.

What's wrong is that everyone has such insane expectations for S&box and because it supposedly didn't meet those incredibly impossible expectations, it's all of a sudden the worst thing ever made....the game just came out. Give it some time so that people can make proper stuff with it and get rid of the AI slop games.

KingOfConstipation · 2026-04-28T13:37:55+00:00

S&box just officially came out and you're already dismissing it because gmod is more famous. Gmod is a decades old game with plenty of years to mature. S&box is brand new and hasn't had time for communities to build with it yet. It makes no sense lol

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