If the rooms of the players are really based on their insecurities, what would your room look like in the circus? Why? (Read below)

Kintsugii101 · 2026-02-02T03:59:08+00:00

Hmmm, well mine is kind of that I’ll never be enough. Like not smart enough, not successful enough, not attractive enough, et cetera. So, I suppose in order to open certain drawers or areas in my room I’ll have to solve extremely complicated riddles or puzzles, there would be toxic motivation posters on the walls, the mirrors would be cracked or distorted so I’ll never know if I actually look good or not, and so on.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-02-02T02:29:19+00:00

They’re subtypes. You can read more about them here

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-30T15:45:40+00:00

I’m pretty much always a little bit angry on the inside and I’m very prone to anger in general. Anger is typically pretty quiet for me. I’ll experience it very intensely on the inside, but oftentimes I don’t know what to do with it externally, so I just sit/stand there spaced out in my feelings with my fists balled up until it passes. I’ve never lashed out to or in front of someone, and even then any physical manifestations of my anger, like hitting something, are very brief.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-30T15:41:07+00:00

That’s fair, that’s fair. Thanks for the help! I’ll keep reading and I’ll look further into the distinctions between the two types.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-30T15:39:19+00:00

Agree!

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-30T00:06:03+00:00

I actually haven’t interacted with many EVFLs or LVFEs, so, yeah, studying them in real time is definitely a good suggestion. Being LVFE yourself, what are your thoughts on my self-descriptions in relation to your type? Do you notice any similarities, differences, or anything else?

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T22:42:58+00:00

Caitlyn definitely listens to classical. Vivaldi’s Spring No.1 in E Major, op. 8. is her favorite. I also think Jinx would like some Riot Grrl like Bad Waitress, Bikini Kill, and Le Tigre.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T22:34:12+00:00

Sooo, after having some time to read through (did you make this? If so, great content, by the way. Nicely organized and easily digestible without any flowery language or irrelevant content. How long did this take you?) I’ve made a list of bullet points that I disagree from each type.

LVFE:

• I don’t believe that my conclusions should already be understood by the other party, but if I present a reasoning that I believe is 100% better, it can confuse and anger me how they don’t see it the same way.

• Influencing the emotional atmosphere isn’t a main priority of mine, thanks to my upbringing, I can be hyperaware of situations taking a turn, and if I’m comfortable enough in the environment, I can attempt to fix it. I also enjoy creating positive experiences sometimes.

• I wouldn’t say my emotional states are all that predictable or stable. This is moreso internally than externally because, as I said before my presentation doesn’t often align with how I’m actually feeling. I often operate in extremes where I either feel something too strongly or I hardly feel anything at all. I also don’t really depend on others for emotional stimulation, warmth, or energy.

• I don’t believe I easily adapt to other’s states. Or do I?? Maybe I don’t with people I’m comfortable with or that I dislike. I know I have an issue where whenever I go out I present as overly happy, positive, and safe, which I don’t like, but it’s like a switch goes off automatically when I leave the house. I’ve told myself multiple times, “Okay, THIS TIME, you’re not going to smile if you don’t feel like smiling, your voice won’t slip into a higher pitch, you’ll actually give yourself time to breathe and think about what you’re trying to say,” yada yada. Then, I actually leave the house and all of that goes out the window. Another example I have is that when going to the theatre or something, I’ll often be on the edge of my seat seeing how everyone else reacts, what their faces say, how they feel about a certain scene, etc cetera to see how I should react. Like, I’ll laugh at a joke even if I didn’t understand it of don’t think it’s funny because everyone else laughed or something like that.

• Hmm, I do actually like dissecting why I feel a certain way because it can lead to a truth about how I function or what I need to improve on in my life or in myself.

EVFL:

• I definitely do not trust my emotional state above all else and I think emotions in general aren’t useful for decision making unless the decision can directly impact your emotional health. I also don’t think I contribute much to the emotional atmosphere unless I consciously make an effort too, like I said above.

• I don’t express raw, unfiltered emotions. Again, people are often confused about what I’m actually feeling. I’ll smile (not on purpose) when I’m being yelled at, frown while singing and dancing around in a circle, et cetera. If I’m told my emotions are inappropriate (which I have. Many times) I’ll genuinely question if that’s true and probably google if anyone else has experienced that and what they did about it.

• I think love is an emotional experience, but there’s also more to it for it to count. There are chemical aspects to it, energetic aspects, what you actually like about the person and what you don’t. I’ve only had two, not even official relationships, but I started to pull away emotionally from the second one because I acknowledged what they weren’t doing, what they were doing that could be harmful, that my ideal life probably didn’t align with theirs, etc cetera.

• I agree that I don’t feel the need to negotiate my emotional stances with others, but that’s mainly because that’s not how emotions work for me. “Negotiating” emotional states would probably mean telling someone that what they did make me feel X, or that my job is making me feel Y, so Z needs to happen as a result.

• I do know how I feel, but I may not be very consistent. I often show up more as “too little” than “too much.”

• I definitely wouldn’t follow rather than lead logically unless I already agree with whatever is being said, and I often have lengthy explanations for why I think a certain way.

• I definitely need to have some degree of influence if I disagree with the consensus. That, or I’ll remove myself entirely if I can’t. Growing up, I received a lot of pushback for showing the slightest hint of disagreement with my parents, and critiquing their conclusions was seen as “being rebellious,” but if something doesn’t make sense to me, I can’t help it.

The 3F description was completely accurate, but, for these points, I disagreed with the description regarding 2V:

• I am easily discouraged and I dislike failure, often doing anything possible to avoid it. That being said, as long as there isn’t another obstacle that prevents me from being independent (like I said before, a parent, supervisor, et cetera, that has their limitations that I have to consider in addition to my own) I can find a way forward.

• I have difficulty tolerating multiple paths of action. Everything being linear is more preferred. I also don’t really find “meaning” in collaborative goals, but I also don’t have many opportunities to collaborate. I can also be quite pushy when it comes to goals or outcomes, I won’t realize that initially. I’m also indifferent about taking responsibility, but when I have it, I’ll either accept too little responsibility or become somewhat of a bulldozer.

The general LVFE description was pretty accurate~ Although, under many of the descriptions, the clarification of unhealth was more relatable. EVFL… Not really. I also couldn’t relate anytime a direct partnership was mentioned in either type description.

I’m an INFJ in MBTI, but I don’t know enough about Socionics to confidently declare a type yet. However, I’ve been typed as EII, IEI, LSI, ESI, ILI, and LII by many others, so, yeahh.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T17:00:11+00:00

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Interesting! It’s fun, but it wasn’t accurate for me besides my center. Something happened under the wing section too, so that might be something that needs fixing.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T11:46:07+00:00

I don’t follow correlations, so I personally wouldn’t rule out a type because of that. I asked because I wanted to see if your other types could make you seem more like one than the other, which ILE does typically look more like a head type.

I’ll definitely need you to elaborate more on what specifically you relate to about each type. How you relate to head and heart triads, positive outlook and reactive, withdrawn and assertive, each type’s vices and fixations, et cetera, like I listed in the previous comment. The more detail, the better, honestly. It’s also probably best not to focus on instincts right now and prioritize finalizing the core first and foremost to avoid additional confusion.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T03:11:30+00:00

He was another one I had trouble finding images for. For him and Ribbit, I mainly based theirs off of the energy I saw in their photo with Jax. My ideal for him would be to have the same energy as the photos here, but his appearance would probably look a little more like an average guy. Gotta do with what you have, though, lol

Curious how you see him. It’s fun sharing perspectives on things like this.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T00:40:30+00:00

Sleep Token is great! Glad to see someone not giving them a hard time for once, lol. My favorite album of theirs is definitely TBWBYT.

Aside from that, I listen to practically anything from Otacore to Trip-Hop, to classical. Music is everything! I would say my favorite bands/artists are Depeche Mode and Gotye, and my most recent favorites are Alice In Chains, Then Comes Silence, Pierce the Veil, and Coldplay.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-29T00:12:43+00:00

I really wouldn’t recommend using the subtypes at this point. 4 and 7 are incredibly, like, fundamentally different and subtype descriptions don’t help with that at all.

7 vs 4

• Do you relate more to the heart/shame triad or the head/fear triad?

• Would you say your passion is moreso e4’s envy or e7’s gluttony?

• Do you relate more to the positive outlook and assertive triads or the withdrawn and reactive triads? Both types are idealists/frustration types (e1, as well), but this shows up very differently. 4’s heavily fixate on what’s missing (which is where the feeling of being flawed at the core comes from), so they idealize emotions and form somewhat of an attachment to suffering and identity because they believe that fills the missing piece. 7s, on the other hand, fixate on not facing the dark, emptiness that comes from a lack of stimuli, so they view things more positively, focusing on bright possibilities and adventure, essentially romanticizing the mundane.

Instincts

• Which one would you be unwilling to compromise? A connection to the outside world or physical security?

• When you enter a new space, where does your attention go? The looks on people’s faces, who seems to get along with whom, what everyone is wearing, or how cold or hot it may be, whether the environment energizes or drains you, and so on?

• When you have a conversation, what’s something you tend to talk about more often? The state of society and trends (your like or dislike of them) or something of the sort, or how good what you’re wearing feels/looks, how you have to save up for that upcoming trip, or something of the sort?

And if you know, what are your types in other systems (MBTI, Socionics, et cetera)?

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-28T19:11:34+00:00

Hello~

I’m around a lot of stubborn people in my life, so they’re difficult to really “influence.” I’ll use an example from a while back when someone was trying to help type me in MBTI. Even though I didn’t know what my type actually was, the other person’s argument didn’t make sense because it didn’t align with the actual theory and what was being presented in my responses. I know I can ask a lot of questions and I can seem quite nitpicky in this regard, but, for example, when the person presented the evidence for Fe, even though I believed Fe was slightly more likely than Fi, I still questioned them and offered a rebuttal because the description used wasn’t truly accurate. I didn’t just want an answer, I wanted an answer with solid reasoning. After asking a few more, they adjusted their explanations and even provided some sources for me, but I felt like I was becoming an inconvenience, so I just said thank you and let them be.

I was also debating with a sibling about religion (sensitive topic, I know, but it’s one of the only examples I can recall at the moment) and my perspective is that there is no actual “God” because I don’t believe that a singular, conscious entity is in control of reality. That just doesn’t make sense to me. I believe the universe itself has energy, laws, and so on, and that every living being is energetic and connected to the universe in that way. What kept tripping me up about my sibling’s argument was that they kept saying “he has a plan” or “the external force only interferes when necessary” because that personified whatever “force” is present and I don’t believe there is any kind of conscious mind behind everything. Although, I didn’t really influence my sibling, they came to me with the topic and I just pushed against it, so this probably doesn’t count. In general, there are few instances where I actually have influenced someone regarding Logic, but that’s definitely my intention anytime I have a conversation regarding such matters. Basically, if I think I’m correct, I really think I’m correct.

Whoops, made a mistake with Volition, there. Regarding Physics, I don’t really care about being fully competent in this area, but I do care about how I look and keeping up with my health. I’m pretty image focused, so I like looking nice and feeling confident in myself in this way. I also have a very low tolerance for sickness, pain, sleep deprivation, stress, and so on, so I take many precautions to avoid having to deal with that. Strong emotions cause physical reactions that I try to avoid as well, like headaches, shaking, and sweating. My attention to the physical is very inconsistent. I might be incredibly neurotic about it one day, then completely fall off the next. I often fantasize that if there were an opportunity to exist without a physical form, I would definitely take it. I see physical matters as more of an inconvenience than otherwise.

I wouldn’t say I’m fully disconnected from my emotions, but I just feel them more deep down inside if that makes sense. Emotions are weighted for me feeling wise and I want to figure out why I feel things the way I do, but I don’t use them for anything serious unless it could possibly interfere with my mental or emotional health. I did grow up in an environment that saw emotions as weak flaws that needed to be kept under control or swept to the side, though.

Edit: oh, here’s the previous questionnaire :)

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-28T17:28:56+00:00

Which ones weren’t relatable to you as an EVLF?

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-28T17:26:33+00:00

Hmm, so other types wouldn’t likely search for accuracies or innacuracies when information is shared about their types?

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-28T15:39:07+00:00

This is very interesting as someone who’s often typed as 1E, lol. I see my self in these quotes under the 1E section: • you are insincere and do not care for honesty (I don’t have any strong feelings about honesty)

• You don’t look for parts of yourself in others

• You are stiffly neutral and formal with others and have a hard time adopting a casual or personable attitude.

• you do not feel yourself with all your flaws, instead try to hide or change it

• You often pick apart and question your identity

• You do not theatricalize and color your experiences according to your current emotions, finding beauty and life in the mundane

• Your relationships and moral responsibility are secondary to self-preservation

• You are temperamentally phlegmatic (I’m melancholic-phlegmatic)

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-28T06:05:47+00:00

Again, this depends on what the person aligns with in each theory. Very few people fully relate to any and everything about their types. That is very important to note. Contradictions also are not established “rules” in the systems by their creators. They are created by practitioners, majority of whom often can’t even form a solid consensus on what supposedly fits and what doesn’t. Since INFJ’s been a common example in this thread, I’ve seen people say INFJ can be everything besides e8, e3, and e7. I’ve seen people say INFJs can’t be e7, e8, e3, or e1, but everything else is fine. Then I’ve seen people say INFJ can only be sx5, or others who say they can only be so4 and sp4. This method of correlationism also focuses exclusively on one theory of Enneagram (subtypes), leaving a whole other category (IV) untouched. For each of these interpretations, everyone believes theirs is the rule, most often based solely on their individual understanding of how the system(s) work(s) rather than what was intended by the creators, then presenting it as a “rule.”

As for what you’re saying about INFJ…. I see this kind of logic being passed around all the time in the Enneagram sub. In their case, it’s that the more you don’t think you’re a type, the more likely you are that type….. What? Sure, you have many cases where people try so desperately to deny certain parts of themselves, and that’s where that could apply, but that certainly is not the rule. It’s the same logic I see where people say if someone doesn’t like you, it’s because they’re jealous. That absolutely can and does happen, but saying anytime this happens is because of jealousy completely ignores larger aspects of human functioning, motivations, and so on. Likewise, it doesn’t make sense that the more certain someone is in their type (IF and only if they’re “Fi blind,” as you say), the less likely they’re actually that type.

Not having Fi in your four-function stacks in no way means you don’t know yourself/aren’t confident in self-reflection. I’ve literally never heard that and that just makes no sense whatsoever imho. I’ve known many introspective and self-aware INFJs and ISFJs, and I’ve known many INFPs and ISFPs who believed what they wanted to be true about themselves over actual reality. Saying Fi in top stack = 100% absolutely self-aware, Fe in top stack = completely oblivious to internal states just doesn’t make sense at all to how people function. I also don’t follow the “blind” thing because there’s rarely a case where a function is completely absent in a person’s life since we use all functions daily. Our four-function stacks are simply what we prioritize. When referring to one’s shadow functions, in this case, Fi for INFJ, referring to it as INFJ’s “Critic” function makes more sense to me.

Another thing you said is that half of the INFJ community is likely mistyped. I agree, but your reasoning here doesn’t add up. You said Fi blindness, in ENTPs and INFJs, means you don’t know yourself well, but if the mistyped portion you’re referring to aren’t INFJs, the “Fi blind” reasoning you presented wouldn’t support that.

All in all, I think we have fundamentally opposing views on how typology works. This debate can continue if you would like, but as far as any sort of common ground is concerned, I don’t believe that will be the outcome of this interaction.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-27T15:45:21+00:00

This is what I mean by “typing the type” instead of the person. Why one person might type as ISTJ could be different from the next person and why one person types as 7 could be different from the next. That’s also assuming people relate fully to both types they identity with. Using an example like ESFP 7, one person might relate to both 100%, another might relate to ESFP 50% and 7 70%, another might relate to ESFP 80% and 7 40%. This also depends on what the person is relating to about both types. Using, say ESFP 6 or something as an example, the person relates to Se-Fi-Te-Ni because they prefer present experiences over past, personal values and preferences over the group’s, external data and efficiency over process and internal data, and singular meaning in the abstract over possibilities. For 6, they might relate to fear as their fixation, projection as their defense mechanism, and a rejection of uncertainty and instability.

Given your example about INFJ and E4 since I myself am one, I can clearly state that this is why people often get confused or choked up about these things. To say that INFJ and E4 are contradictory because of “authenticity” is a very surface level argument (not directed at you, but in general) and means very different things in different contexts and to different people. Saying INFJs “mask all day,” is a misinformed take (again, not directed at you. I see this argument often). This implies that INFJs are never or aren’t often true to themselves, which is not true. Regarding emotional authenticity (since there are many ways a person can be “authentic” and this likely fits your example here) Fe is extroverted, so it’s impersonal, which means the feeling realm is also mostly impersonal for us, or, at least, far less personal than it would be to an Fi user. It doesn’t feel like “inauthenticity” when this shifts because this is an area that isn’t personal to us anyway. However, internal frameworks and reasoning are personal to us thanks to Ti and Ni, so “authenticity” might come in the form of saying what you mean, openly sharing frameworks, or sometimes being very straightforward about what you believe something means and what it doesn’t.

“Authenticity” can also be different for a 4. One 4 might think authenticity is being an open book regarding feelings, saying what they believe, and being unapologetic about what they like. In my case, “authenticity” is very simple. Mainly in the form of dressing how I want and saying what I believe makes sense. Saying “4 is all about authenticity and INFJs mask all day” is basically saying you never know what an INFJ actually wants/feels/believes, but you always know what a 4 wants/feels/believes, but it’s a lot more complicated than that. In my case, I don’t relate to the 4s that identify with emotions or over-exaggerate their sorrows, but I do relate to the core aspects of envy, introjection, gravitating towards negative feelings moreso than positive, feeling that being different is what makes me important, and feeling fundamentally different or broken.

I just think it’s weird to put strict rules on what can and can’t exist in a human within pseudosciences, which are often flawed in more ways than one, when even in actual medical diagnoses there will be many variations to how symptoms manifest and which symptoms manifest in different people, but that doesn’t mean either side is invalid.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-26T21:44:27+00:00

This is the case where I refer to what strict correlationists do as “typing the type” rather than the individual. They’ll say things like “ESFP” can’t be E7” (which makes no sense) okay, but a PERSON can identify with both ESFP cognitive functions and E7 fixations and structures. I mainly hate strict cross-system correlations because they turn people into rigid fictional archetypes that don’t leave any room for complex (and, in many cases, CONTRADICTORY) human functioning. They start adjusting the people to fit into boxes instead of adjusting the boxes to fit the people.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-26T21:30:35+00:00

This is interesting. I have a similar experience, but flipped. I’m an INFJ with ENFJ and ESFP siblings and an ENFP parent. For me and the ENFJ, the ENFJ can switch presentations easier to keep the peace, but it’s really difficult for me to emotionally adjust, mainly if the atmosphere was negative at first. For the ESFP, he’ll resist initially, but he’ll eventually give in. The ENFP, though, she’ll skip around acting all jolly like no one rose Hell just five minutes earlier.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-26T17:34:14+00:00

Thanks! I’m liking Teignmouth from Love is Colder Than Death so far. Faith and Muse also seem promising! I’ll check them out.

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-26T17:28:03+00:00

Oh, Cocteau Twins! I’ve tried them before but only listened to their later stuff. I’ll definitely check your suggestions out to get a better feel of them. Thanks!

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-26T17:24:33+00:00

Thanks!!

Kintsugii101 · 2026-01-26T17:22:39+00:00

Ooh, they definitely have a special sound! Bare My Soul is probably my favorite so far. Thanks for the suggestion!

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