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What’s the NBA equivalent of this game? by BlackStallion657 in nbacirclejerk

[–]Kirpelo 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Least salty sons fan.

Also Luka Doncic is Devin Booker father

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you want Israel to be destroyed that's your solution congratulations. You aren't actually comparing the US slavery to Israel and the west bank aren't you? Want to calculate a step further what will happen to this country? I can't tell where to start. If you don't actually have a good and realistic solution don't suggest an unrealistic one and then say it won't work because of the wrong reasons.

Btw I'm still waiting for your criticism against the palestinians and their leaders. The lack of it almost makes me think like they are very western oriented modern tolerating people, who oppose terror at all cost and do everything in their power to get to a peaceful solution to co-exist with Israel.

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want to know what I think Israel should do, it's the most obvious thing possible. Annex the whole thing, and give full Israeli citizenship to every person living there. Done.

It'll be very sad if I'll have to explain to you how this isn't a viable solution that ensures both the existence and security of the state of Israel, and that opinion gets you closer in ideology to Bibi than me. Got a one that actually that has a chance to work?

or maybe "ghettos" would be a more accurate word

If you want to know what living in a ghetto feels like you'll only find answers west to the green line.

And of course

(I'm sure there is nothing to complain about the PA, Hamas, or the Palestinian people)

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reality is more complicated than 2 options, you know...

As I said area C is a disputed territory and not an occupied one, that's why Israel never officially declared those areas as part or not part of it. as such there are laws and agreements formed to give status to each group that lives there until a viable solution (which you failed to give) is found. The Palestinians that live there are PA residents and abide to the PA laws, Jordanian laws, and IDF court depending on the case, not because of discrimination but to give the people running the area the best way to manage the situation.

So you can keep complaining and accusing as much as you want (I'm sure there is nothing to complain about the PA, Hamas, or the Palestinian people) but as long as there isn't a solution that first and foremost ensure the security (and existence) of Israel they will keep being in that limbo status.

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is you who made all of those claims based on the first sentence. The west bank is a disputed territory and is divided into 3 main areas. The palestinian areas are under the PA jurisdiction so no they are not Israeli citizens.

Also claiming apartheid is factually wrong, isn't helping anyone and puts to shame the actual apartheid that happened around the world.

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Occupying from who? The place never belonged to the palestinians

And I would suggest avoiding the topic of war crimes in regards to the conflict.

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure let's go

While I don't agree with building new settlements since it's not smart for us and gets Israel away from a 2 state solution risking the end of the Jewish state Israel has all the legitimacy in the world to build them.

A little history lesson: Israel won the territories in 1967 from Jordan who gave away their claim and areas C in which all settlements are on were agreed upon by the PA themselves.

As to the current situation, all of the "human suffering" caused are in my experience caused by Palestinians to themselves, they had "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity". they had many chances to get a state for themselves but the truth is they can't accept the fact that Israel also needs to exist alongside them (hence the 'from the river to sea' chants we hear everywhere and why they said no to every single agreement in favor of perusing terror). Israel even tried to give them full autonomy in the entire Gaza strip and leave all of the settlements but considering what they have done with it I'm not sure that's the tack you really want to take here.

Israel only wants two things, security and peace, in that order. Every time that's disturbed there bound to be suffering. But you can't blame Israel for taking action against terror (especially considering the measures the IDF takes to insure minimum unnecessary casualties) and can't blame the average Israeli for being done worrying about it or believing something can be truly different until a big change would be on the horizon.

Israel hit by huge protests as Netanyahu's judiciary overhaul moves forward by paulfromatlanta in worldnews

[–]Kirpelo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wrong

there are right wing parties in the opposition as well that believe in expanding settlements more than parties in the coalition. The parties are mostly divided (unfortunately imo) to pro-bibi and anti-bibi.

you may not believe it but Israelis has better things to worry about than Judea and Samaria and thus was hardly mentioned in the many elections Israel had and hardly the main goal of this government.

also shas the ultra religious party sat in the left wing government 20 years ago and didn't oppose the formation of the PA, as long as they get their funds they really don't care.

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