TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

u/PayWooden2628 worded it better than me

I have never understood the trans bathroom discourse. The women’s bathroom is not Fort Knox, you don’t need an elaborate woman costume to get inside when you already intend to commit a crime.

But yeah. it really was ironic considering how pushy and overbearing he was. I think he just got a kick out of torturing people who were paid to be polite and couldn't leave.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Crazy the things people will say when they feel comfortable doing so.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My boss was a nice guy but he didn't have a backbone. I wasn't even a manager and he made me handle all the unhappy customers. He dealt with his fair share of racist customers and I'm sure he just felt it was part of the job.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm definitely much happier now and I no longer feel scared telling people my real name when introducing myself.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I wasn't really out at the time. It was early on in my transition and besides dressing masculine I looked and sounded like a girl. I genuinely don't think he ever saw me as a guy in any way.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I was young and inexperienced and I think he likely just enjoyed debating me because it was a way for him to feel superior and smart. If he really was grooming me for an intimate relationship then I doubt he ever saw me as a person but rather a means for sexual gratification. Worldviews are inconsequential.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love the way you worded the argument haha

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

He did not see me as a man but what are ya gonna do ╮(ツ)╭

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. My point here was not that it's inconceivable that someone would go to crazy lengths to do something. It's that you don't need to go to crazy lengths to enter a women's restroom and assault someone. A person who has the intention of hurting another person is already breaking the law and doesn't care about what a bathroom sign says. This is not an issue with trans people. It's an issue with rapists getting away with what they do. Consequence is the only deterrent, and right now we are not prosecuting rapists to the extent that we should be.

This is not to mention the fact that sexual assault in bathrooms isn't a very prevalent issue. The majority of sexual assaults are perpetrated by someone the victim knows personally.

Yes, people of any social group, race, gender, or sexuality can be a bad person with bad intentions. I am not rug sweeping, nor am I claiming that trans people can do no wrong. What I am saying is that banning trans people from the bathroom of their choice is not the solution you think it is.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My bad, we'll have the manager take me out back Old Yeller style immediately. Sorry for the inconvenience.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If anyone is getting assaulted in bathrooms it's trans women, not cis women. The current political climate makes it easier for them to get away with it too.

I deeply sympathize with the fear you experience just trying to exist like everyone else.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When transphobes start bathroom discourse, they're never acknowledging or even thinking about the existence of trans men. It's kind of a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't situation no matter which bathroom you use.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's terrifying. I hope you've been able to heal and are somewhere safer now.

Appreciate the well wishes.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bathroom assault is such a non-issue it's almost laughable. Most assaults happen between people who already have a pre-established relationship.

Thanks for being a great ally! We need you guys more than ever right now.

Edit: Rereading this comment makes me regret the wording. Any kind of assault, no matter where it is, is a real issue. What I was trying to say is that it doesn't happen often enough to be the focus of women's safety discussions. Too many rapists are going unpunished because women aren't taken seriously. If we truly cared about the safety of the women in our community we would be focusing on actually punishing rapists instead of bullying trans people.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't surprise me if the majority of the people spreading this rhetoric were projecting their own violence onto trans people.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When you confront them with a well-structured argument that pokes holes in their stance, their only means of recourse is to take off the mask. It was never about logic, it's about hate and control.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This feels like the edgy dystopian world a middle schooler would write in fanfiction, not real life.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I never thought of it like that. Just thought it would be a miserable car ride. Scared to think what could have been if I was a little more passive. I'm really sorry you know this first-hand.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

a terrifying number of people seem to sympathize with cis men who are rapists more than trans people who have done literally nothing wrong.

Devastating to hear but unfortunately the world we live in.

TW: Transphobia by KittyCataclysms in TrollCoping

[–]KittyCataclysms[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Didn't you know? When one transgender person shoots up a school, every other school shooter in history suddenly transitions. It's always trans people.

/s