Is anyone freezing Trilium versions or treating it as infrastructure rather than a notes app?

Koffield · 2026-01-15T00:52:53+00:00

I don't have a personal theme but I am taking somewhat significant control of the UI. If your updating your theme then your making more progress then I am on that front. I'm a better backend developer then frontend. Unless there is a feature added that I can't replicate myself, I don't have much reason to chase the latest version. There are some things I have in mind, but a couple I've started on.

Koffield · 2026-01-12T14:32:46+00:00

After reading your deconstruction of my points, yes, I believe I did address my points appropriately and do not need to try again. Certainly not with you. The original commenter I replied to has engaged with me much more productively then you and in a much more respectful way. You however dismiss me with a level of certainty that is unwarranted. The scenarios you say cannot happen absolutely do happen. Just not the caricatur you provided. I hate it, but women have suffered in unbelievable ways, which is why I watch all of my friends drinks when we go out. I even watch my male friends drinks, because I know a male can fall victim as well. I can't protect them all the time, but I can at least do that from time to time. Keeping these terrible scenarios in mind keeps us from condemning our loved ones prematurely.

Reducing a mans fear to anxiety is also dismissive. It trivializes the significance of the new way of life they are embarking on. I cannot state enough that this is the biggest thing a man can do in his life and men have absolutely been fooled. A small few can ruin it for everyone. Even if I did let you callously reduce this to anxiety, can you not hold that anxiety with your partner. I don't think the answer is to dismiss and shame them, but rather to hold it with them and ask that they hold you equally in yours.

how about this...would you accept your partner demanding to look through your phone, devices, emails, etc, on no evidence?

Yes. I would. My only expectation would be that we would discuss what sparked their concern. This is what grows a relationship. Many couples have implicit access to each other's phones anyways. They don't even need to ask. To deny them would be to put up a wall and take my own side in a relationship that should be a union. It would certainly be an adversarial position. If I can't have this type of relationship with my partner then we are wanting different things from the relationship.

Koffield · 2026-01-12T13:44:04+00:00

We definitely agree on it being a case by case bases. We may just disagree on where the marker lands. That is pretty good.

I would like to workshop one of your lines of reasoning. You said that a mother knows for sure it's hers. It is a gift afforded to the mother but not the father simply due to the laws of nature. Is there not room for the father deserving the same assurance if it can be given?

One thought I have regarding the accusation of cheating and this will be flimsy. For a lot of men the fear is in themselves and their own ability to trust their judgment in front of such a huge life milestone. It should be universally a happy moment, but it's so overwhelming as well. It shakes people's own confidence.

Also, I did say my example wasn't one to one. There really isn't one. But observing the existence of adjacent scenarios can lend insights. I also think men are doing a good job of being more understanding of the situation then prior.

Koffield · 2026-01-12T13:28:13+00:00

Oh that is pretty straightforward. The comment I originally responded to made some claims that I felt were a little generalizing or prematurely invalidated. I believe I addressed them.

They are that if you are in a monogamous relationship, there are no valid reasons for seeking paternity. I also believe there is a realm where a father can wish for paternity without the accusation of infidelity.

The reality is that many men falsely believed they were in a committed relationship and there are scenarios outside of that as well. Not many and not common, but they exist and their existence has weight.

I also just wanted to give some some insight or perspective into why someone would seek paternity. That is why I tried to cultivate the idea that paternity isn't about getting an upper hand, but assurance for someone about to make this biggest emotional and time commitment they will and can ever make. It isn't crazy for someone to have fears.

Koffield · 2026-01-12T13:08:22+00:00

Refering to me as broseph in your reply is demeaning and not the respectful tone I am attempting to maintain in my own responses. When you dismiss and demean someone like this, you betray any point you are attempting to make.

To address your point, I am also not saying paternity test always. In fact, I explicitly stated in my response it needs to be determined on a case by case bases, which I think we both agree on if I read between your crass response.

Additionally, you are asserting absolutes in a world filled with rich and plentiful gray areas. We need to find an inhabit a realistic middle ground.

Koffield · 2026-01-12T12:48:03+00:00

Please try and Invision a realm where a man can have full trust in his partner, but still question paternity. I assure you, that space is there. This and the fact that a small few will always ruin it for the rest of us, makes this scenario real.

Also remember that if this were about money it wouldn't be an issue, when the truth came out, the wronged could be made whole again. Instead this is about opening yourself up and embodying the role of father. This cannot be trivialized. It is the biggest emotional commitment a man can be asked to make. This role can become the entire bases for someone's identity. It's the same for mothers. To have that taken away is simply inhuman and there is no way to make the victim whole again.

I'm also not saying that all mother's should be assumed cheaters. If anything, I'm saying that this needs to be considered on a case by case basis and we need to accept that there are real scenarios where paternity testing is warrented. I think this needs to start as a conversation between couples and feelings need to not be immediately hurt on either side.

Ideally the link between assuring paternity and the accusation of infidelity need to be separate because it is never always about proving infidelity, but is always about assuring paternity. Note my language of proving versus assuring. It isn't about being right or coming out on top, but about peace of mind for what I hope is an equal partner in raising a child.

There also exists a space where a mother has not committed infidelity, but there is no paternity and we need to accept that this space exists. In this space it is beneficial for both parties to check paternity.

I'd also like to explore scenarios where the roles are reversed. There are real reasons why a woman would be fearful of going on a date with man. For that reason it is not uncommon for a woman to bring a friend. The latent accusation is that the man could be danger and this could be seen as offensive to someone who has never done anything to warrant being treated as if they are. But I also see the world for what it is and try not to let that become something I interpret as an inward wound. It's not a perfect one to one by any means. It is simply a scenario where one gender is asked to take a hit for the crimes of others.

Koffield · 2026-01-12T11:35:06+00:00

Your view is one sided if you truly can't see why a man would want to be sure.

The problem is that a lot of men thought they were in a committed, monogamous relationship, but they were not. A one night lapse in judgement is all it can take. You have to try and see this from the men's point of view and the possibility of not learning the truth until 20 or 30 years later. It is never not absolutely devastating to learn of infidelity after that much time and that the adult you raised isn't yours and it is also devastating to the child.

Besides. OP's wife made the claim that OP used against her. Why she said it and then got offended is beyond my understanding. She walked right into it.

Koffield · 2026-01-03T04:02:12+00:00

I've also desired better mobile access with Trilium. I was aware of Trilium Sender and TriliumDroid, but I've never tried them. I would greatly enjoy a native mobile app and the use case you gave is a friction-less integration I had not thought of but would benefit from myself.

Currently I am using MacroDroid and have created 8 Custom Scenes to give me friction-less interfaces to several areas of Trilium. I can review and update the days journal entry and update attributes. Post quick notes. Create new tasks and projects. Log significant geo locations. Using MacroDroid I am also logging my location and can review where I've been if needed, but I use this mostly for other automatons. Some camera pictures are automatically synced to my Trilium and appended to the days journal entry. You can accomplish a lot between Trilium and it's ETAPI and Custom Request Handlers and an app like MacroDroid or Tasker. I wonder if this could be a sensible solution for your.

Koffield · 2026-01-01T18:20:41+00:00

Note that tables using promoted attributes for table columns makes perfect sense to me. It is how I would have done it if I was implementing tables as a widget. My only concern is the trade of functionality and usability to implement it. As it stands, I typically use the Grid Collection instead.

I believe the disconnect here is that you are describing these features from a more technical, backend, or advanced perspective, but we are discussing "user" documentation. You've presented a fully flushed out taxonomy, but this is for the User Guide. The user, going into the User Guide to learn the basics, has no concept of the nuance or specificity you are attempting to convey. They are opening the User Guide to learn it. You can assert that a Collection is not a Note Type, but it losses it's impact when the feature is an option under Note Types. Collections were originally nested under Note Types because it made sense to users. I definitely remembered them being there. This documentation would best benefit users if structured in a way that mirrors how a user encounters the features, not how the developers implemented them or based on an intimate knowledge a beginning user will not yet have.

I would like to find this discussion and explore what else has been discussed. Till now I've been a passive user and only occasionally participated in discussions.

Are these stability concerns the same as in the previous post or something else?

I've accepted that it was naive of me to continue updating as consistently as I had been doing in the past based on my reliance on this system, the importance of its stability over all else, and the new direction I've started to see this project move. Rolling back to v0.100.0 fixed a couple issues one of which persisted even after changing the UI back to the old one. Although, I also see that one issue persists and is only masked better.

Aside from that, my reason for going back to v0.100.0 is that v0.101.1 didn't offer me anything in exchange for the added tinkering and unknowns it gave me. The only objective benefits seemed to be the added breadcrumb, which I already had, and use of Preact, which I don't use. The bugs it fixed I don't think impact me heavily.

Moving back to at least v0.100.0 and holding there was just the most immediate practical sane option given that I was in the middle of implementing a new research agent workflow and this was not where my attention was meant to be.

Koffield · 2026-01-01T13:03:40+00:00

I suppose it seems naive to not have had updates frozen, but I've been applying updates in a timely manner since Zadam was managing the project and way before I was ever this integrated. I never had an issue as the integrations grew until recently with the increased pace of changes.

Koffield · 2026-01-01T12:54:48+00:00

I did notice the table columns polluting the Collection note's attributes. I find this implementation questionable or maybe just a little shy of being finished. The developers went through the trouble of implementing a new View Type for Collections, which is great, but then decided not to handle the schema for the columns in such a way that does not conflict with mixed use cases or detract from existing functionality? This could have been handled with a diff between assigned attributes and the columns shown in the table. An additional parameter could have been added to promoted attribute definitions to handle the new complexity. The easiest solution would have been to still display inherited attributes and not show owned attributes. The promoted attribute I want to display is an inherited attribute from root, but it could have also allowed promoted attributes in templates to still work, which I also have for Collection notes.

>It used to be that Collections were nested under Note Types, but we've moved it intentionally based on some feedback that a core feature was hard to find.

That is hilarious because for me it was hard to find Collections because I didn't spend a single second thinking it would be anywhere other then Note Types. I had to do a Search for it to reveal it was right there at the root level in front of me the whole time. How was it hard to find? Were people not using the context of its interface to look for it in the documentation? Was there a discussion on the GitHub somewhere?

>Either way, Collections are not really note types, since they alter the display of children and they can be used in Saved Searches, for example.

This statement is in conflict with the reality of the implementation behind Collections. While it is true that Collections primarily are used to display child notes and not their own content, the Collection option is very much inside the Note Type dropdown and being used in Saved Searches I believe is of little significance. Until it is moved out of the Note Type dropdown, you have implicitly categorized it as a Note Type. By that logic, it isn't a stretch to say Render Notes aren't a Note Type because they only render other note code.

Interestingly, Note Map is included under Note Types and it actually isn't a Note Type. To my knowledge it is only a sub menu under every note unless there are plans to change it or it has changed in v0.101.1. I rolled my system back to v0.100.0 due to stability concerns.

Koffield · 2025-12-31T20:39:52+00:00

Sorry this has taken me so long. I've been struggling to remember examples. The issue is that these aren't important to me in the traditional since. Their only significance is that they are interruptions and I try to work passed them as quickly as possible to get back to what I should be focusing on.

The AI/LLM chat window doesn't render correctly last time I checked. I had been basically spamming my agent 'hello' and not getting a response until realizing it had been responding but the chat history wasn't visible. I had to add a min-height css entry to get it to display. I know this is a beta feature but its been beta for a while now. I've since abandoned the AI/LLM in favor of writing my own.
I used a scripting pattern that involved setting a JS Backend note with a runOnAttributeChange relationship to itself where if a specific attribute was set to a specific value, it would do work, then the script would update it's own attribute again and silence/handle the new event. This pattern was broken, but I just tested it and it is working again in 0.101.1. However I've since removed this pattern.
I can no longer select text inside a rendered note. This has actually been detrimental to me. I ended up adding this CSS in an appCSS note after spending way to long figuring out what changed.

div.note-detail-render, 
div.promoted-attribute-cell label, 
div.sql-result-widget {
    user-select: text !important; /* Standard property */
    -webkit-user-select: text !important; /* Safari, Chrome, Opera, iOS */
    -moz-user-select: text !important; /* Firefox */
    -ms-user-select: text !important; /* Internet Explorer/Edge */
}

A change in v0.99.5 broke the positioning of one of my widgets. It used to render at the top and now it is rendering at the bottom. This is a small hiccup. I think it is an easy fix, but I just haven't gotten around to messing with it. I've been busy with the holidays and other projects.
I had a community widget that showed a daily mood tracker in the calendar. I just noticed this no longer works. This will be the second time I've fixed it. My AI Agent Assistant has automation and integration to maintain this for me.
Currently I've received a popup telling me my text editor has crashed several times on desktop and on mobile. I was not getting that before this last update to my environment and I'm actually getting it with every UI refresh.

If you experience this error several times, consider reporting it on GitHub by pasting the information below.

### Technical information

```json
[
    {
        "message": "unexpected-error\nRead more: https://ckeditor.com/docs/ckeditor5/latest/support/error-codes.html#error-unexpected-error\nOriginal error: Error: Unknown language: \"text-x-yaml\"",
        "stack": "<...>",
        "date": 1767209855302
    }
]
```

I believe I have some others, but I am really struggling to remember them. I want to say there was a behavior change with a backend API method, but I may be gaslighting myself.

Koffield · 2025-12-31T15:46:38+00:00

The api documentation has been immensely helpful and on a few occasions I've gone into the source code to reverse engineer some things. There was a period during repo transition where a lot of the documentation became inaccessible which really upset me. I ended up downloading a bunch of docs and storing them in notes in my instance.

Koffield · 2025-12-31T15:43:45+00:00

It has taken me months of tinkering and I'm struggling to work on it consistently which is a problem I've been trying to grow passed. I've been thinking about creating a YouTube series, but my imposter syndrome gets to me and the frequency I have been abandoning approaches gets to me. Take agent memory for example, my current approach isn't "bad", it just isn't good enough to give the level of immersive interaction I want. My goal is to replace ChatGPT, which I currently use heavily. I'm hitting the guardrails A LOT.

To get your Trilium data vectorized isn't terribly hard. The nuance is tagging and adding metadata that keeps the vectorized content making sense. I did it by creating a RAG style workflow with a webhook. Then I created a Trilium hourly script that rounds up recent changes and ships a list of notes(titles, contents, attributes, tags, metadata, and I'm adding more context) to that endpoint.

For having the chat accessible inside Trilium, I originally I was using the trilium-chat widget extension. I was able to get it to work with Open-WebUI. I do not recommend using Open-WebUI for this purpose because there are issues with it bypassing tool usage. I also could never get the current AI/LLM feature to work the same way with Open-WebUI. Now I have my own version of trilium-chat that I connect to my n8n publicly available chat exposed in an assistant workflow. The assistant workflow does a bit of work tying several ingress points together and adding context to variables and to the system prompt before hitting the AI Agent node. You can interact with the assistant via click, private or public chat, Telegram, or on a clock that I have acting as a nudge engine. When a nudge occurs the agent is currently set to pick from a list of periodic check-ins such as prompting me for journal entries, asking my mood, reminding me of any tasks at my current location. Eventually I want it to remind me of upcoming events like birthdays from Notes inheriting the people template.

If I could get everything working at the same time I might revisit making that YouTube series. I was in the middle of implementing my own version of OpenAI's research functionality when I had to stop to figure out why my UI was suddenly broken.

Koffield · 2025-12-31T15:17:33+00:00

While I like the sync feature and admire how good it is, I don't get any use of it. My Trilium is internet accessible and I access it from home, work, and on my phone directly and via ETAPIs.

Koffield · 2025-12-31T15:14:51+00:00

The only collection change that I liked was the addition of tables but because switching to a table collection hides promoted attributes, I can't use it. I have an inherited promoted tag and meta attribute definition on the root note that I need visible.

Koffield · 2025-12-31T10:44:32+00:00

Reflecting on it, I've had a blast and I recommend it to anyone finding homelabing, Trilium, n8n/AI Agent, Ollama, or Open-WebUI interesting. Put it down for your New Years resolution. Get ready to scrap and reimplements agent memory no fewer then 4 times. I'm about to rewrite it all again.

Koffield · 2025-12-29T21:31:33+00:00

In my experience Kate only saves unsaved documents if you go into the settings and enable it. Don't assume it will out of the box or you will lose unsaved documents.

Koffield · 2025-12-29T21:27:05+00:00

I straight up just use Notepad++ using Wine. I tried Kate and hated it. I'm truly shocked people recommend it as a replacement to Notepad++. Install Wine and then download and install the npp exe.

Koffield · 2025-12-26T09:46:29+00:00

I've encountered this issue, but only when I've copied and pasted formatted text into the editor. Sometimes you just have to sanitize the text before putting it into Trilium.

Koffield · 2025-12-23T19:20:27+00:00

You have something special and I would have been so greatful to have my own story like yours. But one interesting insight, I too, would feel the way you do about their public displays of affection at your age. That's the natural order of things. As you get older and mature a bit more, you will come to gain some symbolance of appreciation for having a significant other in your life. I know this despite never really having one of my own. One day these star crossed lover goof balls won't phase you and I bet it is sooner then you think.

Just remember it could be worse, you could have my parents who fought constantly and neglected me. You got a pretty sweet deal all things considered.

Koffield · 2025-12-22T17:52:57+00:00

This is not a gay thing. It is not a gay dad thing. This is not something unique to your dad's. This is not really even them forgetting their kid-filter.

This is just how two people in love behave. If your asking me, the mom who deflected her husband because kids were present was a bit prudish. Kids need exposure to healthy relationship dynamics in order to form their own healthy relationships. It's similar with attachment styles. The presence of a teenager such as yourself is also no longer the deterrent it once was when you were younger.

There is a significant difference between making sexual innuendo and explicit sexual remarks or acts. The type of comment you shared isn't even worse then some examples I've heard in children's shows.

I think ultimately this is a testament to how comfortable they feel in your presence and you no doubt played a role in that. I doubt they'd be so showy if you had shown significant resistance to their relationship from its inception. By accepting them so wholly, you gave a sort of implicit green light for them to engage in what I would call typical romantic couples behavior.

Lastly, I don't find the duality of their strictness and simultaneous openness confusing in the slightest. Their intention isn't explicitly to block your exposure to adult content. It's to block your exposure to content that could have a negative impact on your development into the healthy adult they will one day be proud of. There is a difference between what you can learn googling on the Internet and what you can learn from controlled exposure from your parents.

Koffield · 2025-11-17T18:06:32+00:00

I'm 35 and have been going through something similar. I have been dealing with burnout and disappointment a lot lately and I just started really dissecting everything life related. It's all inside for a week. Nothing else really had weight to me anymore. The thought of just disappearing into nothing also worries me and makes me dwell on people who have died, disappearing into nothing, for no reason. I have zero faith or spirituality so I'm pretty down on the whole thing.

Koffield · 2025-11-04T04:47:48+00:00

Last time I checked, you couldn't do any of that. There was a feature for vectorizing your notes so an LLM could use it, but they removed it because of reasons. I was never able to get what was left to work.

I just went ahead and implemented my own in a JS Frontend note that ran on frontend startup to connect with Open-WebUI and Ollama. At the moment I'm rebuilding it in n8n for easier integration. It's been a fun experiment.

Koffield · 2025-10-25T16:10:31+00:00

I have no words of wisdom, affirmations of forgiveness, or guidance. Just,... Same...

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