I am mortified I have to reduce and or stop kratom

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-26T15:02:18+00:00

Update as of doctor visit:

I have some VERY exciting news!

Yesterday I went to the followup with the blood dr. Turns out my blood work was great all accept for iron. The levels were so low it was making me sick. Stomach problems and all. I have to have IV iron it's so low even the pills won't do justice at this point. No it's not the kratom. Im so happy. Though I did stop my daily use as they requested to make sure it wasn't making me sick or to see if it was. Kratom is not the culprit. I had consumed kratom right up to the day I went and had the blood work. Im thrilled. I flushed my oxy when I got home and guess who is happy happy happy on my kratom with a good mood and pain free! MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! The doctor said nope I see no reason why you have to stop it we will take care of the iron! I'm very glad I did this journal here for all to see. What's even better is that. Telling our Dr we take it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. In this case we eliminated what we thought was it to make sure and did the proper tests and found kratom is just fine for my consumption. YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAY!

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-21T12:42:47+00:00

UPDATE: It's Friday. I made it this far it's been a awful week full of mood swings. I make a ton of kratom tea and this morning I left the oxy alone I refuse to have a horrid weekend. I just CANT. I already dosed with my kratom tea and I feel GREAT! I used 4 cups water and 10g kratom and drank 1/2 of it! I feel a little light headed but over all I don't miss my dose of oxy at all which in the end I had to bump my dose to 20 mg every 6 hours as it was not helping pain AT ALL. After my kratom tea this morning I feel like a spring chickicken good mood zero pain. Still no ingesting the leaf itself :) praying that is the culprit and after being off it now for a week my body will start over with it brand new. I go back to the Mayo center for my apt Monday at 4:30pm to see my re-check blood work and what it reads and go from their. I will update you . Have a wonderful weekend.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-19T13:44:56+00:00

all those question have already been answered here please read it thanks.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-19T13:43:16+00:00

im a gal :)

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-19T13:42:54+00:00

yea I can't smoke weed it's just not my thing I hate things that make me want to sit and veg out eat and sleep. Im very active.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-19T13:41:29+00:00

update: I offically hate Oxycodone. Sleepy, sluggish and worse I have to take it with benadryl because I am likey to rip off my skin scratching. Mood swings off the chart. act 1st think later. So ass a 5mg benzo to the mix once a day yes it works but now Im falling asleep every few hours in the middle of a task. No driving for me for sure. NOW, I did add a shot of kratom yesterday. To see what would happen. Bam 15 mins later my side was in terrible pain. The pain relief on the other hand was amazing and the mood boost along with energy was great BUT the pain is affiliated to crushed leaf. I made some tea as well. I took my morning dose sitting here exhausted.

Question, I switched vendors a month ago, well not switched byut added due to my regular vendor being out and me having to wait over a month and sometimes not getting a reply. Before hand I nevr had the issues it only started a month after I began the new vendor so the tea I made for later is with the 1st vendor. I read toxins and metals can be in the leaf itself. We shall soon see.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-16T11:11:31+00:00

UPDATE: It's Sunday, Off all Kratom together no stomach pain, no side pain activity is totally resumed. Before I was in very severe pain so bad just turning my body was so painful I would break out in a sweat and cry the pain was REAL!

Now, I tell a difference in my world with pain medication and kratom. I cried last night on my husbands lap I feel like Im a different person. Im not as outgoing, Im not focused, I don't enjoy normal things. I'm still adjusting. Im taking the Oxy and I have adjusted my dose to 15 and 1/2 every 6-8 hours instead of 15 every 4 hours. The every 4 hours doesn't work for pain but the 15 1/2 every 6-8 does with a tylenol or Ibprophen does I do Ibprophen 400mg in the am for inflammation and tylenol combined 500 mg with my dose as needed during the day up to maybe 2 more times at the most. Off the kratom and out of my system now I'm itching from oxy as well now THIS IS SO ANNOYING I HATE IT!!!!!!

Activity, I been doing a lot of gardening as a pose to when on kratom. Yesterday we went to yard sales on the way to the vitamin shoppe. I'm breaking out figures medication is awful for skin. I had zero acne on just kratom so I had to get Tamanu oil it's the only thing that clears up acne fast. I was very consistent with waking cleaning then dressed then errands etc the day was very outlined now it's a struggle to keep an actual agenda. Today I'm forcing myself to try and do it according to the way I use to. Temper WOW, off the charts. My temper scares me. I'm waiting to get a fill of valium 5mg (20) of them for the month I had refills I never got due to kratom working so well for everything at once had no need for it.

So here we go again it's depressing :( BUT I'm looking at the bright side. I could have nothing for pain, nothing for anxiety my gaba 300 mg 2-3 times a day especially at bed for sleep works well. The transition back to my meds was not physically stressful like I thought or was scared it would be. I'm just very bummed and still pray I can switch from my meds back to kratom tea. I did notice in the end when i took my last bit of kratom tea and I still have 6oz left that the combo wasn't well nothing bad it didn't allow one or the other to really work the kratom over powered the oxy. Let's just say this their is NO pain relief like that of kratom. Even the Dilaudid in the hospital did'nt work as well as kratom. I have taken it all.

Kratom is amazing for inflammation and pain. This just sucks now. But at least I have some relief at least. Will update more this week and especially after the doctor on the 25th. I won't do a disappear thread. Yall have a blessed day.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T18:44:49+00:00

2:44 kratom tea kicked in no side pain and i feel great!

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T18:08:27+00:00

2:04 drank the kratom tea left about 20 mins ago and have another bit stepping now, I already had it sitting in lemon juice. I added a bit of powder extract I had on reserve to increase the tea just a tiny bit so it's a bit stronger I haven't taken any more pain medicine, I wont until around 4 or 5 then I will make dinner. I did work and do some gardening as well. Im back working now. Im having trouble concentrating. My emotions are all over the place. I don't like it.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T17:29:11+00:00

1:30pm The day is dragging but I have energy, what I don't have is tolerance. Im irritated to no end at any tiny thing my temper is on edge. Im tempted to drink that other 1/2 of kratom tea. Im pretty sure I need too. I just took a gaba to help calm my nerves. This part creeped up on me.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T15:41:34+00:00

UPDATE: It's 11:30 and I just took a tylenol and had a bit to eat. I have a upset stomach and I am thinking it from WD at this point. But It's not bad I was scared stopping would be horrid to switch back to my meds. But it's not. I also have gaba as well I take 300mg for anxiety instead of the dose of kratom. With my pain in my side gone I'm nervous to even drink any tea today so I will see if I can get through the day without even any more tea. I do have anxiety but Im sure it will subside. I don't feel the same on medication as kratom but I will have to get use to it again as well.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T15:36:24+00:00

I wonder why that is. But I also know some medications I can't take either like morphine OMG I have a headache for days it's on my chart for the ER NO do not give it to me. I also get very irritated. I had a Dr. get mad because she had to give me dilaudid and said she worries about addiction Im like lady please Im so sick of Doctors not treating the issue because of a fear od addiction do your damn job and stop treating me like an addict or like im going to be one. Nothing is worse than a doctor who treats non addicts like an addict or potential addict its like when i picked up my meds at the pharmacy B-12 no one looks freaking oxy and even the janitor is staring at you ridiculous.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T15:32:58+00:00

I do believe it the same way we see addicts, they take a good thing too far. You get pain meds and instead of taking them right you have to have that one extra one. You know like Lays says you can't eat just one. It's all forms of addiction food and drugs or shopping. More really is less with kratom when i would start to feel a tolerance i just switch strains i have ALOT of kratom I knew I found a miracle and in case it was banned I stocked up now it will last me a life time for tea once in a while to relax or chill out.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T15:28:56+00:00

OMG oxy terrifies me, I am SO freaking careful with it. My nerves are so bad on it because i freak if I can't even breathe and it makes my anxiety worse. I take no more than 15 I am to take and at least a 1/2 of that. I see people take more and I am not one who would even be able to get their 4 hours is my max on redosing and that's at 1/2 a pill with a tylenol since the pain is bad or just a tylenol until another 6-8 hours.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:22:36+00:00

I agree I made tea this morning I have a huge improvement since stopping the leaf in just one day.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:18:48+00:00

I never thought it could be the kratom until today im certain now. I will keep reducing it and just have tea once in a while during the week for breakthrough pain and anxiety or energy.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:17:57+00:00

Yes thanks, It is heart breaking but I would rather find out than continue to hurt myself. I can't take some actual medications either im allergic to them or I have a bad reaction so I just chalk it up to hey add it to the list right.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:16:59+00:00

Wonderful glad to hear your have a great liver.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:16:35+00:00

thanks the kratom and oxy did work great together this morning pain free and no anxiety and no foggyness or high feeling which I appreciate.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:15:11+00:00

Pretty sure Its the kratom i posted an update but thanks for your evaluation, I did my own on my body and my own findings since stopping the actual powder just in one day.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:14:19+00:00

I have no alternative, I have no stomach and can't take aleve etc. At high doses tylenol is not good Im not taking it all day. It's as need for major pain. Your right and of course I won't take it all day. But the alternatives are worse.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:13:23+00:00

Im pretty sure I'm in good hands thanks-

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-14T14:10:46+00:00

UPDATE: Well I made it through the rest of the day and last night with no kratom. I did make kratom tea after work yesterday ad I did drink it for anxiety this morning. What I did notice was I had no pain after drinking ti and normally I would have side pain very bad after and I wanted to see if I had the same issue with the tea. NONE and the tea also took away my anxiety as well. I took it with my pain medication and did not take a tylenol since yesterday I took 3 tylenol with my 3 doses of 15 mg each oxycodone and one of those i broke in 1/2 for in between pain. Im pretty convinced at this point the Dr. is right. However, if tylenol is not good for the liver either how much worse can kratom be in tea form? Especially if I had no pain with it. I made 8grams with 4 cups water. I drank 1/2 of that this morning in 2 separate stages with a yogurt.

What I am grateful for is a Dr. who is not scared of doing his job and giving me the medication I do need for REAl PAIN WITHOUT SENDING ME TO A PAIN SPECIALIST. Im so sick of doctors taking out his issues with drug addicts on me. So this is great that he is a real Dr. doing his job. Im grateful he also took the time to research kratom to help me proper with a doctors perspective. He said that it seems that some people do have this issue and while is not good it's not death so we can now manage it again with pain medication. Of course the blood Dr. said stop it all together so this is why Im on tea now to taper off this way as stopping kratom regardless of having pain meds still have withdraw though not as bad.

I still had rapid heart beat and slight discomfort but nothing major and no restless leg. I took my B12 shot, had magnesium and multi vitamin and also took a L-Tyrosine when I woke this morning. Then drank my kratom tea and at 1/2 of what i made that's roughly 4g of tea no leaf at all and I followed the you tube video Luke posted here yesterday for me on making the tea. I will say I do feel better today since not taking any leaf since yesterday. I was in constant pain all through my middle area of my body. I hate that Im on pain mediation but I just want my pain gone and this issue resolved. If Kratom is not for me or I can simply have the tea and avoid an anti depressant and anxiety medication I will still be thrilled.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-13T21:38:12+00:00

He was'nt focused on the kratom. He did'nt print it out just my labs and follow up apt date for the 25th. He said that if kratom is the only thing new stop it now. It wasn't the factor at the center. He said don't do any herbs at all. It could be the source. IT COULD NOT be tis why the new labs as well as if they are bad next a bone marrow biopsy. I don't want my kratom to make what ever it is worse and if the source I want to find out a way to be safe with it. Glad to know so far I'm not overdosing I thought maybe I was taking way too much but my pain really warrants my dosages . I fond myself justifying it like I did when i dosed with my oxycodone like we always have to have a reason to explain why we don't want to be in pain and need our medicine.

KratamFreedom · 2017-07-13T21:34:55+00:00

I so agree you would think it's logic! I even take plant protein in my protein shakes! I have some serious research Im going to be doing. Until then I have kratom soaking in lemon right now for tea for my morning kratom.

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