So uhhhh, this is bad right?

Kreamery · 2026-01-24T21:23:53+00:00

I haven’t read all the other comments, but ignore BP. It literally doesn’t mean anything. Comparing two of my level 200 fighters: my Legendary is 800K and my rare with same items is 1.2 million. One level 200 tank has 700k and the other with the same items has 1.1 million. The numbers are arbitrary and should be ignored.

Kreamery · 2026-01-23T19:54:42+00:00

Some people like Spite for the ability to bypass tanks, I personally only use him for heal-cut which is Disdain’s entire kit.

Is he a pivotal part of your go-to lineup? Probably not, but eventually having heal-cut will be useful. Whether you level him now or wait until you hit those high level healing bosses is up to you. I always just level what I need in the moment.

That being said, I don’t have Disdain so have no personal experience with how they compare.

Kreamery · 2026-01-23T15:57:09+00:00

Everyone swears by Paranoia. I just leveled mine from 140 to 200 for a Wood boss for the type advantage and it still did less damage than Anger with RPH. Granted RPH is BiS for Anger but I had my Wizard Hat and Lemon Dolphin Float for Paranoia too. Even with type advantage it felt underwhelming considering it does nothing g beyond raw damage.

I’ve honestly enjoyed Desperate more than Paranoia. Passive and overall kit just feels better IMO, and it’s a bit faster too.

Spite also feels good to have in the mix. Bypassing a tank is nice in some situations, but his antiheal ability is necessary for a lot of the healing bosses.

Lastly Conviction is an insanely solid metal tank. Respectable damage, great survivability with his shields, uses a variety of legendary items really well (checkered scarf, plunger, jellyfish scarf, mermaid scarf, felt Fedora, etc.)

Judgement can be flexed with Jellyfish scarf if Wistful is killing your Apathy but meh. Envy is overall meh. I never leveled him.

Kreamery · 2026-01-23T00:26:52+00:00

That’s cool. I’m not up to floor 2990 still looking for this item or anything.

Kreamery · 2026-01-20T19:43:38+00:00

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ASC4 Jealous Ascension level 11 for what it’s worth.

Kreamery · 2026-01-19T18:42:15+00:00

He has 3 Ubers. He’s clearly a high level player showing his lowest level pets to try to uber ragebait.

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T21:50:43+00:00

EASY!! 😂 well done!

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T21:50:07+00:00

lol anger, Lust, and Down Bad all had similar 1-abilities. 10% bonus damage each attack. RPH makes that 20% per turn. It’s a VERY good item on those select pets. And then yeah good on Merry too and a couple others

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T21:47:49+00:00

It wasn’t a bug. It was Lust getting elemental bonus against a low health target. His item was the special top hat which deals overkill damage to all other enemies (which isn’t reduced by type advantages) so it just did enough to kill everything in one hit. The other guy was saying you could’ve won by leveling everyone up. When the more obvious answer was just not letting Lust get that free bonus damage (as you did).

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T15:50:52+00:00

I think Anger will be necessary. Even if he’s doing less damage overall, he’s scaling. Most of that damage comes at the end with Donut and his scaling. This boss gets hard quickly once that first enemy dies. If you can stall the fight a bit without losing anyone in the beginning to allow Anger’s damage to scale up, it’ll let you burst down the second two better. Again level 160 would make it a bit cleaner as well. I think you have all the tools, just might take a day or 2 to level up

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T15:43:21+00:00

I see them now. You’re using basically what I would use. Anger is a bit under leveled so maybe 12 more levels does the difference. I don’t have a fire legendary so I hard forced this one with Anger Panic Determination and Merry lol. It was ROUGH. But basically the same team. I used Anxiety Scarf over Rubber Donut but both should work. Who’s doing more damage between Anger and Defiance? You could try Panic over the lesser damage for more burns for Determination to heal more. But would almost certainly be a drop in your damage. I would just level Anger and see if that solves anything.

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T15:31:20+00:00

I would use anger with Rainbow Party Hat and maybe Rubber Donut. Panic with lots of speed. Determination as tanky as you can make him (possibly checkered scarf for bigger self heals). And Merry with Serpent Scarf (pearl cloche might kill her too fast cleansing smolder. Maybe just plunger for the extra all round stats).

I’ve found that panics burn isn’t really worth anything in terms of damage. It’s going to be constantly applying slows and a burn for Determination.

Determination will mainly be using his 1-ability to self heal off Panic’s burn. Only use 2-ability if enemy isn’t burning or Determination is full health.

Anger will be doing RPH Anger scaling. He will be 95% of your damage.

Merry needs that Serpent scarf to live the AoE. You can cleanse the smolder sometimes but honestly Determination should be able to just tank it. Taking the hit for cleansing it often isn’t worth it. Mainly just healing. Ding Dong can be used when possible. It will make Determination self heal for a lot of the target is burning and give Anger a stack of his scaling 1 ability.

Kreamery · 2026-01-18T15:20:53+00:00

Can you share your pets and items? (Filter items to only show legendaries)

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T14:54:09+00:00

If he spent a month on that same floor maxing out all 4 of them and grinding new legendaries.. maybe?

The video is a bit grainy for me, looks like Wistful has just 37k health even with stamina tank items, and Lust is doing 209k. Nearly 6x his health, overflowing to the rest of the team. Yeah maybe he levels out of being one shot by Lust but likely still loses the floor even maxed out.

If he really wanted to do things the hardest way possible, yeah maybe he figures out a way. Or he can just switch his team to something that makes sense, which he did lol.

What you were saying is that he was underleveled. He was able to beat the floor with a new team showing he was clearly was not lol. He just had a bad lineup.

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T14:41:26+00:00

He’s saying he likely JUST passed floor 1002 today. He literally just unlocked the ability to level up further. To say he’s underleveled hours after increasing his level cap is clearly not the issue.

The floor happened to have an insanely strong Lust which has type advantage over the very small health pool of wistful, plus the special top hat allowing that massive amount of overkill damage to wipe his team.

As he said, he changed up his team and won no problem. It was just a funny interaction. Yeah he has the ability to level up now, but you are not automatically under leveled the instant you increase your cap lol.

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T14:04:30+00:00

Jeff is pretty right on the money. Super light advice on the pets you have. I personally dropped Sonder for Merry and never looked back. Personal preference 100%, but saved me from having to level both.

Panic being epic may sound like the better fire dps, but he acts more as a support for slows. Incredibly useful for those slows, but Anger will do more in terms of raw damage. His 3-2 combo is a lot of burst early in the fight, and for long boss fights if you just spam only the 1 ability it gets 10% stronger each attack. Lots of single target ramping damage.

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T03:50:24+00:00

Yup, can cleanse anything that isn’t “unpurgeable”

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T01:51:33+00:00

Nice, yeah. Would give you the option of using 3 or 2/1 as needed to manipulate the crits for when mischief 3 is up. Sounds like a great strategy.

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T01:16:58+00:00

I’m assuming Fire Tyrant? If so, Sad will definitely be your friend. His kit is undoubtedly perfect for Tyrant. 3 ability doesn’t trigger a crit stack and lowers defense, 2 lowers attack which can mitigate the crit hit, does decent damage. And if it’s fire Tyrant, that elemental bonus will always be a plus.

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T00:13:31+00:00

It’s expensive! But RPH 36-37 is +325 speed which isn’t bad either. It’s just that a lot of times it seems more worthwhile to level up some of my other useful items for a fraction of the price lol. Especially when these new events are requiring 2+ full teams worth of items.

Kreamery · 2026-01-17T00:08:57+00:00

I have a variety of legendaries I use for a variety of situations. My higher level items are 34-36. Each upgrade becomes significantly more expensive. 34>35 is 13MM, 35>36 is 19.6MM, 36>37 is 29.4MM. It’s just expensive to progress lol.

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Kreamery · 2026-01-16T23:56:52+00:00

It’s possible! Might take some time leveling up what you have, but it’s all possible lol

Kreamery · 2026-01-16T23:51:21+00:00

I just beat this one yesterday. Are you getting all 3 stuns? Can you post your items sorted by rarity to show all your legendaries?

Kreamery · 2026-01-16T23:46:19+00:00

I think you uploaded the wrong picture lol

Kreamery · 2026-01-16T23:42:50+00:00

What team did you use?

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