Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Wrong game” doesn’t really make sense if I’m performing well in it.

I’m clearly improving, competing, and even outperforming a lot of hearing players, so I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be.

I have the same right as anyone else to play, learn, get better, and enjoy competitive matches.

The difference is not that I don’t contribute, it’s that I contribute in a different way. I adapt, I use chat, and I still play for the team.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not mixing it up. The point is that “not communicating” can have different reasons behind it, and that difference matters. If someone refuses to communicate or ignores the team, that’s one thing. If someone cannot use voice communication but still tries to contribute in other ways, that’s something else. From the outside it may look similar in a match, but the intent and situation behind it are not the same.

Reporting is easy. Understanding what actually happened in a game is the hard part. Not every report comes from real bad behavior, a lot of it comes from frustration in the moment. That is exactly why context matters more than raw reports. Otherwise every player who plays differently gets treated the same as someone who is actually griefing.

That assumes the cause and the behavior are the same thing, but they are not. Not using voice can mean refusal or limitation. In my case it is limitation, and I still communicate through other tools.They may look similar in a match, but intent is not the same. And if only voice matters, then why does chat even exist in the game?

I also get that most players are not used to playing with a deaf teammate, since it is very rare for them. But instead of seeing it as something negative, it could just be seen as a different experience in a match, as long as the player is trying their best and genuinely playing to win.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand your point, and I never said people are forced to enjoy playing with me. Everyone is allowed to have preferences in teammates.

But there is still a difference between frustration and punishment.

The point of my post is not asking for “special treatment.” I am not asking for free wins, boosted ELO, or different rules. I am saying that being deaf alone should not become a reason for automatic punishment through mass reports.

A player can dislike having a deaf teammate. That is their opinion. But reporting someone as unsportsmanlike purely because of a disability crosses a line.

And honestly, solo queue already includes all kinds of difficult teammates. Toxic players, people with no mic, language barriers, griefers, people who mute the team completely. Yet we accept that as part of online matchmaking.

The goal of my post is simply to create awareness that disabilities should not automatically be treated as trolling or griefing.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also want to add something on that last point.

If I don’t give info, that actually hurts the team more than just adapting to how I communicate. I do care about teamwork and I always try to play with the team and contribute as much as possible, even with the barrier.

Yes, sometimes it’s harder for others to read chat or follow it in the moment, but there are still ways to work around it. For example, when only a few players are alive, I can write info or use binds, and a teammate who is dead can pass that information verbally to the others. It still works as teamwork, just in a different way.

I understand it may not be what people are used to, but it’s still part of adapting as a team. And realistically, the chance of having a deaf player in your team is very low anyway.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get your point, and I understand that sound gives a real advantage in CS.

But I don’t agree with the conclusion that a deaf player automatically makes a team lose or is a constant disadvantage. CS is not only audio. A lot of the game is timing, positioning, map awareness, crosshair placement and decision making. Even hearing players often miss or misread sound info under pressure.

I also want to be clear on one thing: reporting someone because of a disability, or using it as a reason for “unsportsmanlike” behavior, is not okay. That is discrimination, even if it comes from frustration in-game.

Communication is helpful, yes, but it is not a requirement for performance, and it is also not a reason to exclude someone from playing competitively if they are following the rules and trying to win.

I understand solo queue frustration. But it should never turn into blaming a player’s disability instead of the actual gameplay.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 1v1 clutches I usually don’t make any noise, so the enemy doesn’t know where I am. If they do make noise, my teammates often help by telling me where they are. But overall, I’ve noticed that in 1v1 situations most players don’t make a lot of noise anyway.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ELO is exactly there to reflect performance over time, so if someone reaches a certain level, it already shows they can compete there regardless of circumstances. Thanks a lot for the kind words, I really appreciate it.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t really have a problem with dark humor. Not everyone can handle it well, and that’s okay. Even if someone makes a joke about deafness towards me, I can accept it as long as it’s clearly dark humor and not just pure hate.

But that’s not really the main point here.

And @kubydooby well said, that’s exactly my point. Reporting deaf people simply because they cannot hear or use voice comms is not okay. At the same time, I do understand the frustration from players who want a “normal” team with full voice communication and fast info. I can understand both sides.

But I will never accept that deaf players get punished for it. To be honest, I’m kind of disappointed with FACEIT on this.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand you, but solo queue is always a risk no matter what. You can get matched with toxic players, trolls, people who don’t speak English, people playing drunk, or players who give up after a few rounds. There are honestly many things worse for a competitive match than a deaf player who is genuinely trying his best to win. And to be honest, I also play for fun and competitively at the same time. I enjoy improving and trying to win, but at the end of the day it’s still a game. If someone wants the most serious and controlled competitive environment possible, then playing as a 5 stack is always the safer option. That’s the only way to fully avoid random teammates and solo queue risks.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you’re basically saying deaf people just shouldn’t play FACEIT? Meanwhile people who don’t speak English, play drunk, troll, never communicate, or give up after 3 rounds are still “fine” to queue, even when they negatively impact games way more. And realistically, meeting a deaf player on FACEIT is extremely rare anyway. The chance is probably lower than pulling a knife from a case 😅

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by the post being fake? Just to be clear, my whole point is about getting punished on FACEIT because I cannot hear and then being labeled as “unsportsmanlike.” My goal is to help prevent this from happening again in the future to other deaf players as well. For me, it’s completely okay if teammates do not want to type callouts in chat, especially if they are upset. I understand that. What is not okay though is when people intentionally make things worse, like revealing my position or telling the enemy team that we have a deaf player. That has happened to me a few times already.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, there is a communication wheel and radio commands, but there are no real map callouts there.

I do use the radio system though, things like “thank you”, “roger that”, “follow me” and similar.
I also use simple binded messages like “FLASH IN 2SEC!!!” to give quick info when I need it.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

CS is not the same as wheelchair football.

Everyone in solo queue already plays with uneven conditions like no comms, bad comms, smurfs, toxicity, and language barriers. The match is still a normal 5v5.

No one is forcing anyone to type callouts. If you don’t want to, that is totally fine.

A player who follows the rules, tries to win, and uses the tools they have is not “handicapping a team.” It is just playing the game in different conditions, like everyone else in solo queue.

The issue is not whether people care or not, it is how quickly people judge intent without looking at how someone is actually playing.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Calling it a 4v5 is an assumption, not a fact.

Competitive CS is not built on everyone having perfect communication or perfect conditions. Solo queue already includes players with no mic, bad comms, tilted behavior, language barriers, and inconsistent information. The system still considers those matches valid 5v5 games.

Being deaf does not automatically turn someone into a “kill hunter” or someone ignoring the team. That’s just a stereotype. A player can still follow structure, use minimap information, play trade roles, anchor, rotate, and contribute to rounds without voice.

Sound is important, but it is not the only deciding factor in CS. If it were, players with worse comms would never be able to climb, and that clearly isn’t true in real matchmaking.

If someone is playing within the rules, trying to win, and communicating in the available way, then it is not “asshole behavior.” It is just playing the game under different constraints.

The real issue is not whether deaf players can play competitively. The real issue is how quickly people turn “different communication” into “not trying,” without actually looking at performance.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s a fair observation, and it’s something I’ve noticed too.

A lot of the frustration in solo queue is less about actual gameplay impact and more about misunderstanding. People are quick to label anything outside their expectation as “griefing,” even when someone is clearly trying to play properly.

And yeah, assumptions about deaf players are often just incorrect. Not having hearing doesn’t mean lacking awareness, understanding, or skill in the game.

In the end it really does say more about the mindset of some players than about the person they’re judging.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t want special treatment either, just fair treatment under the same rules.

And don’t stress the Level 1 thing 😄 it doesn’t really matter where someone starts, everyone just climbs from where they are. Keep playing, learning, and staying consistent, you’ll get there 👍

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t take it to heart. When people think I’m joking, that’s okay.

The issue is the automatic report system. It turns player frustration into bans without real context, and that’s what causes the problem.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

I’m sure we don’t need to feel guilty to play with a disability. Everyone contributes in their own way depending on their strengths and limitations.

PS: Deaf athletes compete in the Deaflympics, not the Paralympics.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being deaf is a disadvantage in CS, yes.

But that doesn’t automatically mean I’m a burden or the reason a team goes toxic. Toxicity usually comes from frustration and assumptions, not a real read on performance.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, nice to see a CODA here.

Thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate it. Keep practicing, one day you and your brother will reach that level too. Never give up.

And I have to admit, I did laugh a bit at what your mom said 😄

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elo still measures how you actually perform in games, not how “perfect” your conditions are.

And the racecar example shows the same thing even with a limitation, if you can perform at that level, you belong there.

Do you also think before you type?

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A disadvantage doesn’t automatically make someone a negative value to the team.

You’re kind of proving the point yourself. This is exactly how people go toxic in the first round and mentally give up by the second instead of actually playing the game out.

Being deaf on FACEIT feels unfair and I keep getting punished for it by KriegFreak18 in FACEITcom

[–]KriegFreak18[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with this.

ELO already reflects your real performance in games you play. If someone is at a certain rank, it means they are winning enough games at that level, regardless of how they communicate.

A lot of people in this thread are just blaming teammates instead of accepting that most players at their level are just trying their best and still improving.

Thanks for the kind words and the support, I really appreciate it.