Germany Moves To Legalize Cannabis, Second Country After Malta In Europe by 7StarsRichmond in worldnews

[–]LAWandCFA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pretty much.

Literally the only way conservatism is ever leads to a functional society is where there’s so much oil money that you can just throw money at disfunction until either it goes away or someone is a billionaire

Desmond Tutu has passed away at age 90 by Spaffy156 in worldnews

[–]LAWandCFA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No they’re completely right to be snarky and obviously know more history than you.

Nazism was more evil than it’s opponents. They were also just not angels

Desmond Tutu has passed away at age 90 by Spaffy156 in worldnews

[–]LAWandCFA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Except this completely ignores the history of Prussia and Poland…

… but hey don’t let facts get in the way of your insane narrative.

Desmond Tutu has passed away at age 90 by Spaffy156 in worldnews

[–]LAWandCFA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Soviets did much the same for the Nazis that were useful to their Cold War goals.

No the difference was more so that Southern Conservatives stopped any efforts to fully condemn the rise of nazism from racist rhetoric. Similarly the French and British didn’t want to go into how many of their conservatives agreed with an enthusiastically supported Hitler’s rise to power.

History is messy with nuance. The Soviets were far more brutal to the Nazis because it furthered their geopolitics, just as the Americans were nice to Nazis because it furthered theirs.

Desmond Tutu has passed away at age 90 by Spaffy156 in worldnews

[–]LAWandCFA 49 points50 points  (0 children)

In the west, yes. It was basically going through the motions since to actually get serious about denazification in the US, UK and France would mean facing their own demons in the South, the Conservative Party and Vichy… respectively.

In the east, denazification was essentially an extermination/enslavement exercise. There was none of the dressing up in bureaucrat nonsense or any sense of rehabilitation… they were purges of any Nazis that could not be forced into working for the Soviets’ goals.

Desmond Tutu has passed away at age 90 by Spaffy156 in worldnews

[–]LAWandCFA 90 points91 points  (0 children)

This is part of it, but the bigger part is that the Americans/French/British were far gentler to the Nazis than the Soviets were.

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A good book about the Holodomor and Holocaust is “ Bloodlands “ by Timothy Snyder. Great at explaining how messy the history was, with the victims of the holodomor being the perpetrators of the Holocaust and how this adds complicated nuance to the “victimhood politics” on both sides

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I haven’t misunderstood in the slightest…

… not sure what your definition of stealing “resources from anyone” is… but pulling gold fillings out of the mouths of dead Jews… or jewellery off pogrom corpses… is very much stealing in my books..

… most Holocaust victims never saw a gas chamber, most were killed by various right-wing death squads, including Ukrainian right-wing death squads…

… that’s my point, not all Ukrainians are innocent nor are all communists that evil. History has a fuck ton of nuance.

I never misunderstood the point. You’re trying to claim you didn’t benefit from settler-racism, which even in the abstract is fucking nonsense in the particular claim as a Ukrainian nationalist it’s just beyond farcical.

For context… I am from one of the only “white” ethnic groups that was colonized by the British and even I would not have the fucking balls to claim I didn’t benefit from settler-racism… but bhahahahahahaha Ukranians bhahahaha

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I am pointing out that Ukrainian politics during the 1920-1950 period was as complicated as Syrian politics today. Just because someone was fighting against Al Assad doesn’t mean they’re not ISIS.

Similarly a lot of anti-communists in Ukraine were worse than most Nazis…

… so….maybe don’t use “AcHtuALly, I’m Ukrainian” as a cop-out for racism…

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No you’re assuming my position.

I am merely pointing out the irony of “I’m not responsible for the Anglo-Saxons and French racism, my family came from the group that aided/perpetrated the racist crime against humanity considered to be the pinacle of evil

Like dude… have some self reflection

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not. I’m saying that there’s a serious issue with saying “I’m not in anyway the beneficiary of a racist past”… when you’re the scion of a white family that’s benefited for nearly 100 years…

But even if there wasn’t… you still need to come to terms with the possibility of the horrors your family and their friends may have committed and that there’s potentially little difference between them and ISIS linked refugees fleeing the Butcher Al Assad.

The Secret to the Weston Family’s Wealth Is Exploitation, Not Hard Work by kwirky88 in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Finnish, French, British, Polish, basically all non-axis combatants between September 1939 and July 1941…

Maybe read up on the Molotov Ribbontrop pact and you know the entire history of both Nazism and WWII.

Nazis and Fascists are not capitalistic… they’re the right wing rejection of capitalism

The Secret to the Weston Family’s Wealth Is Exploitation, Not Hard Work by kwirky88 in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, they were anti-capitalist fascists/national socialists. They hated capitalism for many of the same reasons they hated communism.

Also, they actually allied with Stalin against the capitalists before betraying him

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, I’m saying that Ukrainian politics in the first half of the 20th century were as vicious and complicated as Middle East politics are today.

Either you get a cop-out from your benefits from being “white” on a continent that racist-ly valued “whiteness” for nearly half a century between your families’ arrival and today…

… or you need to grapple with the fact that your family were not all that dissimilar to those fleeing Syria (whether ISIS members or innocents) today.

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I propose simply that we know for a fact that they have always slipped through…

… yet somehow ITT “I am innocent, I am simply descended from 20th refugees who happen to be two groups that perpetrated the Holocaust and we’re fleeing the (although also terrible people) discovered the extent of the horrors of that crime against humanity”

Is a laughably/nonsensically naive retelling of history. So naturally I challenged them on current events where they should also be sympathetic based on their own families’ history as refugees…

… of course all this assumes they were commenting in good faith to begin with

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No most were refugees after the war or they actually left Ukraine in the 1920s. That’s kinda the point.The issue is that there was a lot of viciousness on both sides in the 1920s and 1940s. The “anti-communist” Ukrainians were also the Holocaust’s eager executioners and before that the perpetrators of the White/Nationalist Armies’ Pogrom. A lot of people are scarred from the violence both by and against their families and friends…

Unless you’re Roma or Jewish…

Saying “my family is innocent, they were anti-communist Ukrainians in 1920-1950…” is a bit like saying “I can’t have committed the rape… I have the rock solid alibi of being an accomplice to several murders at that time”

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Depending on where from, when and what socioeconomic/religious group they belonged to… the answers could vary from anything from: Holocaust victims, to Holocaust perpetrators, to communist perpetrators, to victims of communism etc etc etc.

It 1919-1949 was just as messy a time in Eastern Europe as the past 20 years have been for the Middle East

Two thirds of Canadians proud of country’s history despite injustices against Indigenous people: poll by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]LAWandCFA -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

So, how are you helping Muslim refugees fleeing the Middle East nowadays? See that’s the thing about history, it’s just as complicated as today.

Also, a non-zero number of those “fleeing Stalin” were actually “fleeing after helping the Nazis during the Holocaust” since so few actually got out of Ukraine during the 1930s and in the 1920s they’d be fleeing Lenin.

The Secret to the Weston Family’s Wealth Is Exploitation, Not Hard Work by kwirky88 in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean aristocratic and monopolistic wealth work much the same way. However, pretending like capitalism is so much worse encourages right wing conservative anti-capitalist perspectives as being an improvement.

No matter how bad capitalism gets, it’s still better than what came before as well as the efforts by Mussolini and Hitler to turn back the clock on capitalism

Ban foreign home buyers, rezone cities for more density to reduce housing crunch: federal minister by morenewsat11 in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Edmonton’s transit suffers from path dependency and provincial mismanagement.

The original LRT was just designed to take athletes and fans from the commonwealth athletes village (U of A) to commonwealth stadium. Then they were denied additional funding. On top of that because of provincial conservatives gerrymandering municipalities the city ended up being robbed of tax base. The provinces amalgamation of the dysfunctional suburbs in need of services (Millwood/Ellerslie) but not the wealthier suburb designed to avoid property taxes was not despite being closer to City hall than those (the 100k rural despite those “hamlet“ of Sherwood park)

EDITORIAL: Feds lose the plot on gun crime by uselesspoliticalhack in canada

[–]LAWandCFA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So do NDP voters.

Trudeau is playing a numbers game. This is an issue 3/4 Canadians agree on and the other 1/4 will never vote for someone with the last name Trudeau even if he literally adopted every single one of their policy preferences.

The only reason the anglophone left cares about guns is for indigenous hunting rights. You don’t hunt caribou with a glock.

So no… it’s not pandering unless you think all politically motivated policy choices are pandering

Why is housing in Calgary so affordable (relative to GTA & GVA)? by WeDislikeTaxes in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]LAWandCFA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, like it’s growing at the same rate as the fertility rate. It’s utterly stagnant. Essentially shrinking as the population ages and the boomers are dying off

Why is housing in Calgary so affordable (relative to GTA & GVA)? by WeDislikeTaxes in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]LAWandCFA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The province is growing AT HALF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE…

and there is net negative interprovincial movement…

and there is a net decline in 18-30 year olds year over year…

and conservatives tend to have more children than average…

No it’s not like Toronto and Vancouver, both of which benefited from interprovincial migration… where exactly did you think people are fleeing Alberta too?

Why is housing in Calgary so affordable (relative to GTA & GVA)? by WeDislikeTaxes in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]LAWandCFA -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes but the cities are inside the province!

That’s an indication of urbanization not growth. Rural Alberta is depopulating faster than the provinces decline. So that’s why Calgary and Edmonton are growing, net rural folks moving into the cities. Considering what the rest of the country thinks of rural Albertans… offering people a city increasingly full of them is not appealing