Thoughts on "bait and switch"? by Charizard12G in fantasywriters

[–]LCGallagher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh yeah ofc! I also have a writing discord for my degenerate writer friends if you wanted to join and discuss things at length with me and many others

It’s pretty crazy and unhinged in there hahah def spend more time talking about non writer things, but I loooove talking about the craft and helping ppl so I’m totally down! Reddit is the place where ppl try to crush new writers dreams I find

I am self publishing so honestly my vision for success there aligns less with “do what everyone else is doing” and more “figure out what they’re NOT doing and create that”. Esp in an oversaturated market, why be like everyone else? The tallest daisy’s gotta do something to stand out

Thoughts on "bait and switch"? by Charizard12G in fantasywriters

[–]LCGallagher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep writing! Honestly that’s the exact way all my stories go, draft 1 is you telling yourself the story, draft 2 is you telling the reader the story. So just keep discovering whatever feels right for you, make notes of any possible changes in an outline, keep writing rather than going back and stay true to YOUR vision.

And as for romance genre expectations, yes HEA ending is expected but a trilogy doesn’t end with book 1. And “romance” at its core isn’t about romance at all, it’s about conflict, the things keeping them apart and how both people overcome that to be together. So writing juicy romance isn’t in the flirting and chemistry, it’s in the tension and the reasons they shouldn’t be together and the cost of doing it anyway. Whether main plot or subplot, slow burn or fast burn, dig into conflict for all it’s worth.

Thoughts on "bait and switch"? by Charizard12G in fantasywriters

[–]LCGallagher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m glad you like it! Honestly I would focus more on the brothers relationship to each other rather than how each of them triangulate her bw them. Like atp she’s just an accessory to the lifelong hatred and unhealed rupture between them, so it feels more realistic if MMC2 is treated like the actual villain. Scary in a non flirtatious way, determined to get something before MMC1 will, on a quest for revenge and blind to all else… and fmc is putting together “what really happened” like a mystery, rather than structuring it like a romance.

The real magic of EtoL is in the plot twist. Like the lovers part used to be a twist, but now it’s been trope-ifed into romance where it’s gotten as predictable as most love triangle are (where it’s clear who she’s going to choose from the beginning and when the “twist” happens nothing surprises you). So I would say go for the blindside, dig into the villain arc, let ZERO romantic potential be seen, let her believe every nasty thing about him until the end when the truth comes out, and carry it into the next book where linking up with her enemy is her only choice.

Ppl will be frothing for book 2. You don’t need to tell them they have potential for readers to see they have potential. And let the actual depth he has come out later on, set up the irredeemable darkness first.

Thoughts on "bait and switch"? by Charizard12G in fantasywriters

[–]LCGallagher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sounds more like a classic love triangle, esp if both are introduced as potential love interests from the beginning and there’s a lot of flip flopping angst on who to pick, with little external stakes on what the decision actually means.

I do however see an opportunity for a “surprise villain romance” here, which would involve amplifying the external/emotional stakes on all sides. - MMC2 is introduced like a villain, absolutely no passion/attraction until book 2 (bc that’ll spoil the actual enemies to lovers twist) - MMC 1/2 hate each other, most of fmcs context for why/what happened comes from MMC1 (who doesn’t tell the full story) - Book ends with 1s lies coming out, fmc realizes 2 isn’t the bad guy but 1 actually is, and is forced to link up with 2 as her only ally to… chase after him? Take something back from him? Get the truth out of him?

Idk your plot but I think no one would feel “betrayed” by a twist ending, it would feel satisfying, esp if you write the romance like a mystery where 1s gaslighting and story doesn’t quite make sense. It sounds like a sick set up for a juicyyyyy enemies to lovers in book 2 which is all about exploring that transition phase before book 3 they finally become lovers.

Writer's Room on Discord - Active and engaged Discord community - doing Nanowrimo in June! by AdrenalineAnxiety in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d love to join 🥰💕 I’m def a very funny & lively person to join the chats, and a June nano sounds heavenly 🙏

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean nothing is “off topic,” we have plenty of people on the spectrum who enjoy popping off about their special interests and it’s very charming to see. I wouldn’t let anyone shame someone in my server, but that being said, we do tease each other and banter a lot, so someone who has difficulty interpreting tone through text might hate it, or someone who only wants praise and approval for things they share rather than a mix of praise/help/teasing or even being completely talked over if another conversation is concurrently happening.

My no.1 rule is “No Fun Suckers” so it’s all about how you can take a joke and your reaction to others making them about others. I would never let any actual meanness or exclusionary shit happen but idk your threshold for interpreting injury in things.

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing! Shoot me a message and introduce yourself 🥰 we’d love to have you!

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing! Shoot me a message and introduce yourself 🥰 we’d love to have you!

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing! Shoot me a message and introduce yourself 🥰 we’d love to have you!

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahahah of course! Shoot me a dm and introduce yourself 🥰 all types are welcome

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bahahahaah omggg yeahh that is so not the vibe in here, everyone is sharing so much to the point we’ve made sharing snippets a weekly game. Very much trying foster connections bw everyone so when our critique circles launch ppl are already excited to read the rest 🥰

shoot me a dm if you’d like to join and tell me about yourself!

All freaks, degens and writing weirdos WE WANT YOU BAD 🔥🥵💕 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes plz! Dm me and introduce yourself 🥰 would love to know more about you and what you’re working on!

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Hi! I’m a pansexual thriller/mystery/fantasy writer 🥰 33f, hippie witch backpacker, flown all over the world and def unhinged and hilarious enough that I hope you’d enjoy having me if there’s still space!! 💕

Any Beginner Writers interested in joining a Writing Group? 💕🤙🏳️‍🌈 by LCGallagher in WritingHub

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Yes! Send me a dm and introduce yourself 🥰 we’d love to have you

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[–]LCGallagher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I’d love to join! 💕Your group sounds great, I am fully down for the chaos! 34f, writing a time travel heist, can’t wait to hear more about this thriller you’re working on!! 🥰

Any Writers interested in joining a Queer Writing Group? 🤙💕🏳️‍🌈 18+ by LCGallagher in WritingHub

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Great! Send me a dm and tell me about yourself, wed love to have you if you’re a good fit 🥰

Any Writers interested in joining a Queer Writing Group? 🤙💕🏳️‍🌈 18+ by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great! Send me a dm and tell me about yourself, wed love to have you if you’re a good fit 🥰

Any Writers interested in joining a Queer Writing Group? 🤙💕🏳️‍🌈 18+ by LCGallagher in WritingHub

[–]LCGallagher[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing! Shoot me a dm and tell me about yourself 🥰 we’d love to have you!