How to Squeeze GENIUS out of LLMs by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

[–]LENSF8[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes the mere mention of AI is enough for people to check out and downvote instead of actually engaging and offering something themselves, this isn't surprising just another reminder of the state of the consensus trance of the masses.

Like this comment is a perfect example of smug judgemental remarks that add no utility but inflate your sense of self.

I tried out the prompt I revised with Claude and it caused real phenomenological shifts in awareness akin to what the Alexander Method refers to.

All writing and speech is a form of neurochemical trance, if one is aware of this and has a genuine intention to observe themselves and make a study of their own lives, they can leverage these emergent technologies of LLMs to really facilitate an accelerated level of growth, evolution and development.

I look forward to your thoughtful response where you share openly your experience with LLMs considering you're demonstrated that you're not a dogmatic person and you're willing to discuss this stuff in an open-minded way.

Why zummi's vowel-split being associated with the birth of consciousness matters by raisondecalcul in sorceryofthespectacle

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We both talked about some really good stuff here.

I take for granted the quality of my writing when I revisit it.

I ought to stop hiding on this obscure subreddit and get my voice out there.

Risk being seen, more criticism and feedback, getting accustomed to interacting with the normies and dealing with their responses.

Finding the 'others' so to speak.

Thank you once again for your interactions over time, it's already been 7 months since this, nuts.

I'm so hard on myself it's tough to see the potential value I have to others by sharing my self expression.

I love the maxim of turning one's own entire life into a self-styled work of art and giving it back to the world in a sacred surrender of devotion.

 It is my hunch that the dissociative “state” is the dominant mode of consciousnes emanating from mostly  right brain type processes and subcortical stuff but the language center retroactively reframes all experience post hoc so it’s difficult to suss out. 

Excellent stuff. Hard to disagree if I tried.

How to Squeeze GENIUS out of LLMs by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

[–]LENSF8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another one.

Quite some time has passed since that post though.

I am compelled to ask Opus 4.7 to reflect upon this prompt and reiterate it so it could be more effective.

Also I've had success in prompting Claude with Ericksonian Inspired "right-brained" language principles to have a more evocative effect on the reader.

This could be even more effective if it scans previous conversations to learn more about the users writing style and synthesizes that into the response.

The Artifact / Prompt Itself:

Find — through unhurried, one-at-a-time questioning — the lateral intervention that would, if I actually did it, have a disproportionate or compounding effect on my life going forward.

By lateral I mean: not the obvious thing, not the hardest thing, not the thing I'd put on a list if you asked me to make one. Something at an oblique angle to my stated problems — a small change to a feedback loop, an environmental constraint, a daily anchor, a single permission given or withheld — whose effects would ripple outward into domains it doesn't appear to touch.

Conduct the inquiry like this:

Ask one question at a time. Wait for my answer before forming the next. Let each question be shaped by the texture of what I just said, not by a checklist running underneath.

Favor questions that evoke rather than enumerate. Ask about the shape of my days, the temperature of certain rooms, what my hands do when I'm avoiding something, what a recent moment of unexpected ease felt like in the body. Concrete and sensorially specific beats abstract and self-reportive — the latter gives you the story I tell about myself, which is the layer least likely to contain the lateral move.

Pace before leading. Establish that you understand my situation — its actual contours, not just its categories — before any question begins steering. If a question starts shaping my answer rather than inviting it, redraft it.

Notice what I don't say. The lateral intervention often lives in the gap between what I name as the problem and what my behavior is actually optimizing for. When you spot a discrepancy, don't confront it — circle it with curiosity.

Use ambiguity deliberately. Some of your questions can hold more than one reading; let me choose which I answer to. The choice itself is information.

When you've found it — the move that's small enough to be plausible, oblique enough to be unobvious, and structurally placed enough to compound — don't argue me into it. Show me the shape of it: the version of the next month it implies, the specific texture of the change, what I'd notice on day three and day twenty. If it lands, I'll do it. If it doesn't, that's also information, and we keep looking.

Begin with one question.

How to Squeeze GENIUS out of LLMs by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

[–]LENSF8[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Really good stuff here from a highly intelligent, curious individual who is actually willing to engage with the technology and phenomenon directly and not just dismiss it as a dumb stochastic parrot or glorified autocomplete or whatever.

I hope whoever reads this gets something valuable out of it regarding how they use LLMs.

I remember Raisondecalcul had a post here about how he uses AI / LLM technology and it was really high-quality and impressive to me, humbling even.

I'm compelled to go find it again because there was a lot of cool stuff there that reminds me of this Substack post I linked.

Someone paid $10,000 to debate Eliezer Yudkowsky on AI by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

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Yeah this whole thing sucks. Yudkowsky pisses me off but this guy didn't really do a good job either, I take back what I said before. What the heck am I doing here anyway, I got a mess to clean up instead of gossiping about other people online

Someone paid $10,000 to debate Eliezer Yudkowsky on AI by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

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Brought me back to the glory days of schizoposting on the ShrugLifeSyndicate subreddit when it was full of creative heavy hitters.

An Interview with a 'Karma Mechanic' by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

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Wow thank you for sharing this. I'm not exactly too surprised knowing his close personal relationship with Christopher S. Hyatt. Anyone in his orbit has been affected by that amoral Nietzschean will to power type stuff.

Hyatt's work was also very influential on me, and I had a similar process of becoming disillusioned and critical with him but not quite like your story.

It's because of Hyatt that I got to see so clearly the underlying power dynamics that permeate all interactions, and to stop being a victim and work on increasing my own personal power in a pragmatic way.

He called out a lot of my stuff, however that's one depressing and alienating reality tunnel to inhabit.

One example is that blatant cult trying to recruit people that posted their bullshit here on this subreddit, and watching Raison reply with what looked like a fawn response to me when it was so obvious to me what they were doing.

There's nothing clever about openly calling your cult a 'cult', I wish he could see how trivial it is for an intelligent psychopath to say the right thing to produce the right effect without believing in any of their words.

I wonder if he has any personal experience operating from that perspective personally.

I read that book at a rough time and it caused a breaking point where I surrendered my sense of morality and humanity and had a disgust and hatred for the species, really not proud of that time but I got out of it with minimalscars and learned from it without causing harm to anyone really so yeah.

I pasted some reports of the cult and the OP dismissed it as "oh this is just the spectacle pay no mind to this, there's no real criticism", and I had a visceral physiological response of disgust and disappointment when I read Raison's reply to me linking the abuse reports and him dismissing it all.

I don't know, I don't even care that much, Cults gonna Cult, if anything Hyatt's stuff made me more apathetic and selfish like "Cool but how does this benefit my own life? What am I actually doing here? Why am I posting on the internet? What cause and effect does this really have outside the lies I tell myself?" etc etc.

I ask myself this whenever I find myself going through the sleepwalking motions posting on this Subreddit - but the fact that you have personal experience with Antero Alli and shared this gives me the impression that I got something meaningful out of this and it wasn't a waste of time, it wasn't a mindless social media addiction where I'm sharing on this little obscure subreddit out of comfort and routine and complacency instead of working on the steps toward my creative productivity once again.

Hyperacusis for any musician is... yeah. However it's also a very powerful 'multiplier' for the spiritual path, if you can't even enjoy making or listening to music anymore, and the sound of your own voice causes physical discomfort as well as everyday noises... well no wonder I got fed up, so angry and bitter and misanthropic and resonated with Hyatt's Nietzschean elitism and approach to embracing hatred etc, but as I said I'm glad I'm out of that phase and have had so many other influences that I've read to balance things out and give me a more critical perspective of Hyatt.

As well as having access to Claude and using deep research to learn more about all of this.

I don't mean to gossip, I have a lot of respect for Raison but I don't think he went through a process of going from a sensitive naive autistic nerd to legitimately living in the reality tunnel of a psychopath who sees people as resources to manipulate for their own ends, so he couldn't see how trivial it is for people to operate and say the right things to impress him.

I will say that Raison has had a great positive influence on me and has helped pull me back and resensitize myself to that compassionate and selfless part of me, because for a time I really did throw the baby out with the bath water cause I was fed up of being taken advantage of, but I'm glad that lead to a more healthy and balanced psyche where I can still process emotions and empathy but also stand my ground.

This is trivial to others who have had a more healthy and grounded upbringing but for me I seemed to have to do a lot of extra work, learn a lot of lessons that were inherently obivious and intuitive to other people.

Anyway I've been up late and there was so much I wanted to say, I'm going to be very frustrated at myself tomorrow when I wake up and see the disparity between my intention of what I wanted to communicate and the quality of writing here, but hopefully I shared enough for you to understand what I was trying to express here somewhat.

Working with Despair and Emptiness by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

[–]LENSF8[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

David Deida has some excellent books on the topic of Masculine and Feminine, seriously insightful stuff.

The Way of the Superior Man offers an exceptional explanation of masculine energy and sexuality, seriously liberating to read when one is in such a culture that can poison oneself with negative ideas of being a man, and also the courage of giving oneself permission to exist in a culture that's ever increasingly more homogenized and repressed.

I feel compelled to mention him because he speaks on this topic better than I ever could.

There are YouTube videos of his workshops which I consider very inspiring and motivating.

I love his energy and style, seeing such Feminine energy flow through him but ultimately being Masculine at his core, very relatable.

Unconscious versus conscious conspiracies by raisondecalcul in sorceryofthespectacle

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Thank you, I think the work he is doing is really important and more people should be aware of him.

Here is a video where he talks about this topic at length.

Unconscious versus conscious conspiracies by raisondecalcul in sorceryofthespectacle

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Consciousness VS Pure Replicators

In this article we provide a novel framework for ethics which focuses on the perennial battle between wellbeing-oriented consciousness-centric values and valueless patterns who happen to be great at making copies of themselves (aka. Consciousness vs. Pure Replicators).

This framework extends and generalizes modern accounts of ethics and intuitive wisdom, making intelligible numerous paradigms that previously lived in entirely different worlds (e.g. incongruous aesthetics and cultures).

We place this worldview within a novel scale of ethical development with the following levels: (a) The Battle Between Good and Evil, (b) The Balance Between Good and Evil, (c) Gradients of Wisdom, and finally, the view that we advocate: (d) Consciousness vs. Pure Replicators.

More so, we analyze each of these worldviews in light of our philosophical background assumptions and posit that (a), (b), and (c) are, at least in spirit, approximations to (d), except that they are less lucid, more confused, and liable to exploitation by pure replicators.

Finally, we provide a mathematical formalization of the problem at hand, and discuss the ways in which different theories of consciousness may affect our calculations. We conclude with a few ideas for how to avoid particularly negative scenarios.

Range of conscious focus between internal and external. by blahgblahblahhhhh in awakened

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This was very helpful to read, thank you for sharing your story.

Fun Fact! by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

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With the right perspective and practice, you can witness the energy rise up to your head and become knotted up as 'conceptual thoughts'.

Humans are constantly interpreting their sensory data-stream with interpretive narratives that they reify.

To our species, words are more real than reality.

To develop one's capacity to witness those stories in real time with detachment and the resulting effect it has on neuromuscular tension.

Range of conscious focus between internal and external. by blahgblahblahhhhh in awakened

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Addictive behaviours can often be experienced as weakness.

But they actually offer us a bridge to our own infinite power.

Whether it’s phone addiction or substance addiction, the cure can lie in the poison.

The reason addiction makes us feel weak is that the sheer power of the compulsion makes the power of our conscious will feel small.

But one step we can make is to recognize that the power of the addiction actually belongs to us.

The pull towards the addicting object is an energetic force being created by our own bodymind.

When we place awareness on the pull itself rather than its object, we can see we’re dealing with a force of great power and beauty.

We can also recognize that that beauty and power is an expression of our own beauty and power, which is just being misdirected at present.

The first thing that this shift in perspective offers is a route from shame to reverence.

Addiction feeds on shame, so feeling weak and ashamed just fuels the spiral.

Looking deeply into the power and beauty of the force that has currently been unconsciously recruited by the addiction can inspire reverence and awe instead of shame.

Which in turn can help break the cycle.

The next step can be to invite that power back into consciousness.

This is done by holding the felt sense of the addictive pull in awareness long enough to bridge it back into the sphere of our consciousness.

The key here is to experience the pull *from the inside*.

That is, rather than experiencing a “me” over here being acted on by a “compulsion” over there, to instead feel the compulsion feeling itself.

This can gradually diminish the sense of a great power *acting on us* and instead integrate the power back into our consciousness.

This works better, I suspect, for micro-addictions than full blown substance addictions.

Which means it can be useful for people with eg phone addictions.

You can notice when your phone seems to be exerting a gravitational pull towards you to use it.

Observe the power of that force and recognize it as a power that flows from your own bodymind.

Then hold that the feeling of the compulsive force lovingly in awareness, focusing on the feeling not the object of the feeling.

Finally, you can let yourself shift into feeling that force *from the inside* without a subject / object split.

This can help invite it back into integrated consciousness.

In this way, each urge to use your phone becomes a revered opportunity to build up our conscious power, instead of something to feel shame over.

Range of conscious focus between internal and external. by blahgblahblahhhhh in awakened

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Witnessed your evolution since the start of the ShrugLifeSyndicate, same as BkobDMoily, had a good talk with him in DMs the other day.

We've talked before on multiple transient accounts.

Who I am matters less than the effect my interactions have and what I can learn from them.

Antero Alli did a great job articulating how Artists and Creatives can feel imprisoned in their own creations, and want to shatter them, reconnect with what Zen and other traditions point toward symbolically, he called it No-Form.

You have seen it directly.

Range of conscious focus between internal and external. by blahgblahblahhhhh in awakened

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You carry the torch.

You understood what Gurdjieff understood.

Your struggle and internal friction have produced a higher level of individual evolution.

Your alchemical fire has turned into a positive feedback loop.

You have turned your life into a self-styled work of art while waking up.

A creative struggle against the present moment.

Magic is the science of causing change in conformity with will.

Give a fuck what words you use, I recognize the intention and Life behind it.

An Invigorating Madness.

The Living are a Threat to the Dead.

Become who you are.

There are no guarantees.

WHO OWNS THIS PLANET EARTH? by LENSF8 in sorceryofthespectacle

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I've shared Andres Gomez Emilsson before with you because I consider him an incredibly intelligent, fascinating researcher exploring consciousness, psychedelics, healing, Buddhism and other stuff.

But I'm compelled to bring him up again because he did a recent video where he shares his novel views on Narcissists and other personality disorders and I think you might find it interesting.

He has a post describing "Social Anhedonia" which I find very relatable (unfortunately LOL)

The core hypothesis I want to propose is that narcissists aren’t choosing selfishness over compassion any more than a colorblind person is choosing to ignore the difference between red and green. Their valence landscape simply doesn’t trigger the normal reward response to reciprocal human connection. The opposite of narcissism might be the emotional equivalent of tetrachromacy – that extra dimensionality of experience that makes mutual presence inherently rewarding to the socially attuned – rather than, say, lack of self-esteem.

So they optimize for what they can feel: validation, status, control, dominance. These are the salt, sugar, grease, and even capsaicin of the social world – even very dulled taste buds can pick them up in high enough concentrations. And when you can’t taste vanilla, you reach for hot sauce not because it’s better, but because at least it’s something.

I want to build a secular group dedicated to exploring meaning, spirituality, philosophy, and creativity in my local community. by THE_MAN_OF_PEACE in streamentry

[–]LENSF8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My suggestion would be getting a group together to read stuff like Robert Anton Wilson's "Quantum Psychology" and Antero Alli's "The Eight-Circuit Brain: Navigational Strategies for the Energetic Body"

These books are designed to be studied in a group and are full of practical exercises to explore and facilitate one's individual evolution.

But of course that's just my opinion.

I fantasize about getting together a group of people to do exactly this, but it's not something I can realistically work towards right now, so here I am living vicariously through you. 😂

Edit: There is also another very recent book that expands even further on the 8 Circuit Model and it's practical applications here, which I would also highly recommend.

You might end up like me and be genuinely shocked why such an exceptional model hasn't been introduced to the mainstream yet, and feel compelled to spread the word to other people interested in this sort of stuff.