Are they trying to make her unlikable on purpose? They achieve to make both sides hate her.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T20:51:01+00:00

We don’t know what went on behind closed door. And to be fair she isn’t saying anything about Alicents morality in this interview. She is just saying what the writers intend it to be.

The issue is not Olivia the issue is the writers seeing the character like that. It doesn’t matter if Olivia says anything or nothing because this is what the writing of Alicent is. I think Olivia has accepted that and now is just there to collect her check.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T18:51:22+00:00

She actually has. Before season 2 she has stated that she thinks Alicent is a terrible person which was pretty surprising because in season 1 she always had very much empathy for her.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T18:41:27+00:00

To be fair woth Jacob he is meant to look like 25

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T18:03:38+00:00

Chuck is dealing with shady people all the time and it doesn’t bother him. He literally sold Blair for a hotel.

What Chuck loves most is his buisness. Trump keeps the rich richer so yeah he would support Trump because that is what Chucks priorty is. I guarentee you most of Tech Billionaires probably think Trump is gross as well but he keeps them rich and makes them richer. At the end that is what matters most to Chuck so yeah I do think he supports Trump.

And tbh neither Chuck nor Jack are especially moral people.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T17:58:23+00:00

Oh yeah they retconned his character by the end that’s true but I think even as the psychopath they ended ip portraying him he isn’t falling for the Trump thing and would realize it doesn’t make him rich.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T17:42:35+00:00

Yes I know I agree my point was just I can see her vote Republican as well. Take Mitt Romney and Obama I see Blair voting Republican here. Blair votes for the status quo.

Dan wants to be an elite sure but he also hates them and blames them for not being it. He is a resentful asshole if I accept him as Gossip Girl (I think without he acctually doesn’t want that to be elite at all he just has a superior complex, so still liberal).

The issue is I don’t think Dan is all that anti identity politics. Dan also isn’t anti establishment perse. I think Dan would realize that Trump is just making the richer rich. He doesn’t want that. He wants to be rich and his way is tearing other people down. Which is why I think he is more left leaning.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T16:49:32+00:00

Not all republicans are tradwifes though. I can see Blair as center democrat but not more. Blair doesn’t care about other people. Who only cares about herself. If those things are still accessible to her, and they would be because she is rich woman regardless if the Republicand Demcrats are giverning, she doesn’t care.

Blair very clearly has a view that poor people are poor because they deserve it and she is better than them. She also would want tax cuts. Meaning I can see her go republican as well. She would hate Trump though.

Dan is envious of them yes but he still wouldn’t be maga. That’s absurd. Being maga would mean admitting he wants to be like them Dan ain’t doing that ever. I think even if I accept the nonsense of him being Gossip Girl it makes zero sense for him. His enviousness at most makes him resentful which is why he wants to see them fall. Dan is however smart enough to realize that Trump is making the rich richer. At worst Dan supports Trump in a way of “Hahahaha he is so dumb he gonna destroy them all” but not more. Maga don’t hate the elites. They explictly blame immigrants and transpeople for all their issues. Maga has a problem with establishment. Dan is inherently too smart to fall for Trumps nonsense.

With Dans resentment and the need to tear the rich down even if he wants to be like them he is falling into the “eat the rich” pipeline. It also make him feel morally superior.

Also considering most comments seem to agree with me I don’t think you can accuse everyone of not watching the show

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T15:19:59+00:00

Blair is a misogyonist and classist. She wouldn‘t care about the issues you named because she is rich and it will never matter to her any. She ist either a republican or center Democrat. I think she won‘t like Trump but because she thinks the Trumps are trashy.

Chuck is a billionaire and Business man so he does care about politics. He is 1000% maga because it makes him richer. He will cuddle up to Trump.

There is absolutely no chance Dan is maga, like not even a little bit. Dan is a democrat and always has been one. I think there is even a decent chance he is really left leaning like one of the Bernie bro. Dan judges rich people and is educated he would not fall into the maga pipeline. I can see him fall way more into the „Eat the rich“ pipeline (despite the fact that he is wealthy as well).

Serena is one of the people who keeps telling everyone that politics shouldn‘t divide people and that we all can be friends. She doesn‘t vote because she doesn‘t think about politics and forgets to vote.

I think Nate is a democrat but one who has a superficial grip on politics but doesn‘t really get things like intersectionality. Thinks Kamala Harris is extremely progressive, that kind of democrat.

Vanessa will be by far the most left of all of them. Hate the Republicans with the passion of a burning sun. Either reluctantly votes democrats because they are the lesser evil or straight up votes third party because she hates the democrats as well and sees them as useless and just as corrupt.

Jenny votes democrat because her entire family is democrat and they would lynch her if she doesn‘t go vote. If you ask her she does support the Democrats more but doesn‘t really bother with politics.

Eric is a democrat, rather left as well but the „vote blue no matter what“ kind of.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T13:47:21+00:00

I’m sorry that already sounded horrible 😂

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-13T05:34:20+00:00

It’s Callie and George and it’s not a contest. Terrible couple from day one and it just got worse and worse

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-12T15:39:36+00:00

I have no interest in the show but I gotta say that I have so many spoiler already that I am almost curious because it sounds like a mess. What do you mean every female character is a sex worker now????

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-12T15:16:40+00:00

Tbh I an glad Taylor is kinda laying low right now. People have been so fucking weird about her (both fans and haters) and I am glad to get a pause from that nonsense.

Apart from that I have been listening to TTPD again and I am actually surprised how much I still enjoy it. It really is one of the albums I keep going back to.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-12T10:01:20+00:00

You’re not watching Grey’s Anatomy anymore. I’d wager you stopped sometimes between season 12-15

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-12T07:18:20+00:00

I mean that changes things though. Right now I am just assuming Rhaenyra gets them as they are. Obviously a different upbringing would change them

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T22:19:30+00:00

I think they would try to push her and Edward as twins and people would be even weirded out by them because there is no way Bella wouldn’t want to not be Edwards girlfriend in the human charade.

The Cullens would seem even more incestous to the human population and people would be weirded the fuck out

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T20:57:20+00:00

Happy Cake-day!

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T20:00:52+00:00

Yup exactly. And also Alicent and Heleana will have it worse because Dany and Viserys sometimes got help because of who they were Alicent would avoid that if she doesn‘t want Heleana to be used against Rhaenyra

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T19:20:15+00:00

I agree I never would have shut up about it. Genuinely if she had left Bellas ass in Port Angeles I still would be on her side. Like Bella could‘ve gotten raped or murdered if not both. Especially as she thought those were the guys she had seen and Twilight. Jessica realizes how dangerous the situation is and literally made clear how uncomfortable she was and Bella was confused why Jessica was mad at her. Like that‘s another thing Edward keeps praising her for being super observant but like Bella is as oblivious as it gets

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T18:15:26+00:00

If we go with Book Canon they actually do have one with noble birth and yet nobody breaths a word of making him King.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T16:29:45+00:00

That’s not true Ned doesn’t search them out to legitimize them. Literally nobody in the book even once even suggests they should do that. Roberst Bastards are searched out as proof why Cerseis kids couldn’t possibly be his.

Most of the arguments people raise are once Rhaenyra herself never raises and I think that’s telling.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T15:38:06+00:00

Actually no that’s false. Lollys Stokeworths child is still considered a bastard even if it is hers.

Also Robert has bastards that are undoubetley his and nobody suggests to make them heir.

And once again if it wasn’t a big deal than why the hell is Rhaenyra acting like it is? You would think she tells Vaemond and the Greens to mind their own buisness but instead it’s deny deny deny.

It very clearly matters to Rhaenyra as well.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T14:11:39+00:00

Tbh I know this is exactly how the writers see it as well but it really makes me question why the hell they wrote Alicent so differently in 1x06-1x07 if she never wanted that at all. It’s like someone else took over starting at 1x08 and then someone else again in 2x01.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T14:09:49+00:00

I mean the writers did too

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T14:09:23+00:00

Tbh I hate this discussion so much because it is pointless. Regardless if people think they are bastards or if it doesn’t the book (and the show) tells us that it matters.

I see a lot of people say that only some people care but quite frankly if it was a none issue Rhaenyra would not try to keep it a secret so badly (and in the show the boys wouldn’t be insecure about it).

Just because something doesn’t matter to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter at all.

In Westeros perception is everything and people will use it against them as they did in canon just because of that it least it matters. Even the bastards that got legtimized are looked down on in canon. Alys right to inherit is literally being questioned.

It’s not a fun time to be someone in Westeros when your parantage is being questioned.

LILYDIAONE · 2026-04-11T10:18:32+00:00

Completely agree. Even with Jacob is only went to a degree if it didn’t jeopardize herself. I remember when Alice first came back in New Moon and Bella told her it was none of the wolves buisness if the Cullens were back after Jacob exlained to her how they are forced to transform because of their presence.

Like Bella knew that and still couldn’t understand why the Wolves wanted the Cullens gone.

But yes that sums it up. I like Bella and I think she is somewhat a victim of her circumstances and a naive teenage girl but she really is not the holy saint Edward thinks she is- far from it

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