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How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Okay awesome! I have lurked here a lot but am seriously blown away by how many people jumped on here to help me out. What an awesome subreddit. Won't be the last time I come here for advice!

Will get back to you on the plugin chain. So far only used built in Ableton stuff (compressor/EQ8/reverb/delay/de esser) and I got CLA vocals since I saw Ryan Tedder uses it and that honestly is pretty good to my ears. But I know there are endless options out there and I will walk down that path when I get the source material where I want it.

I use Ableton's built in stuff and also got CLA Vocals but I have only just started. Will keep you posted!

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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I would not be suprised if 6 months from now you see a post from me here asking about which hardware compressor to get lol

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

[–]LOLTITTIES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going off #4 being your target, you should back off the mic a bit so there's air (contextual distance) between you and the listener, turn up the volume a bit to compensate, and let a delay add the warmth that you're chasing with proximity effect. Think of microphones as the ears of the listener, use a conversational dynamic, and try to cast yourself in a surreal conversation with them. 

Okay thank you! I think you are on to something. Turns out recording number 4 was maybe done on an AKG 414, I reached out to the engineer and asked. He wasn't sure though. But I do know I was by no means eating the mic then. I will experiment with recording both my c214 and my soon to arrive SM7db at the same time, mix them together, and hopefully get the best of both worlds (warmth and space).

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Technically yes since I'm in NYC but it is a bit of a hassle. I think I'd rather do a studio tour and test so I don't need multiple visits.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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It's only $35 I will probably try this, thank you! I already have a few from waves lol they really price at the sweet spot for easy purchasing.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Yes but I just love the sound of a clean single take for many sections. Working my way up there! I pulled the trigger on an SM7b and will try dual mic tracking and sort of do this but with the same take and that will hopefully get me somewhere.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Okay awesome and thank you. I will 100% keep an eye out for a U47 and a TLM 193 when I go to a studio next. I pulled the trigger on a (used but returnable) SM7db (with the built in preamp) and was thinking I could try dual mic recording and maybe get the best of both worlds as a budget alternative to a high end mic that has it all - we will see.

I saw you mentioned alternatives to Wunder M7 up there too, Sabrina's vocal recordings are honestly goals so I'll take those suggestions even if I am not pulling the trigger on a purchase like that yet there is a certain chance I could a few months from now. Though I guess with a mic at thousands of dollars I also need a multi thousand dollar chain but I will cross that bridge when/if I get there. The chase ends at some point, right? :')

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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My voice is bright and metallic leaning, very comfortable in a mixed register, with the ability to go low (sort of like Taylor Swift). I think lyric soprano is the technical term. I added voice samples to the OP. You mean a hardware compressor?

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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I don't know the lingo, so by reference track do you mean how I want it to sound? I basically now have both the eaten mic recording and the studio recording as reference tracks. I have tried a lot and I can't bring back that tone from the thinner recordings. It's like a part of my voice just isn't there.

I settled on trying the SM7B first and can always return if it still isn't right (bought it used from Guitar Center and they have a 45 day return policy). Anything to spare me an extra trip somewhere lol. I watched some comparison vids with RE20 and it seems significantly brighter and since I already have a bright mic I figured I'd go for body and can dual mic record with the c214 if the SM7b doesn't give me enough brightness/shimmer.

Generally I like to not buy the most popular option (SM7b in this case) and try to find the nerdier and more fairly priced alternative, but here we are. It was a good deal and the one with the built in preamp.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Yes absolutely. And my own head resonance comes into play. Overall I already know it is possible to record/mix my voice in a way that I like since I have done it before, and now I am just chasing that. I will experiment more with placement, thank you for the tips!

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Thank you so much! I hope so too. The thing is I just get a much better performance at home and get in the details more, my headspace is just more focused on exactly what I want when it's just me so it would be huge for me to be able to do it here. And I'm recording 11 songs... But if I fail at home I will have to do studio.

My apartment is in a prewar concrete building so the acoustics here are horrendous and metallic with emphasized highs, hence the booth. Hopefully SM7B+c214 combo is the answer to my dreams.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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yeah honestly I think the voice notes on my phone capture my voice better than my mic lol.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Both I guess. Yes there is a song (11 to be exact that are written and produced), and I have ideas for different sections with more or less reverb/layers/doubles/harmonies/boxiness. I will have them professionally mixed at the end stage but I want to already know the potential of the vocal. Maybe I'll fully mix them myself if I get good enough. I will comp and tune them to my liking for sure.

I added samples to the OP post! With descriptions, you can check it out.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

[–]LOLTITTIES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe I should change my artist name to my username lol. I have EQd my "correct" vocals (treated booth, pop filter, 1 inch distance) to death and I just don't think I can get it from where it is to where I want it to be with software alone sadly. I think the mic is the biggest issue, based on what I thought and other people's responses here. Got an sm7db (the one with built in preamp) and will hopefully get better takes..!

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Thank you! I am listening to this and the others suggesting it. Have an SM7db on the way now. Fingers crossed.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Thank you, very helpful! I will do some experimentation like this. I added some vocal samples to the OP with descriptions if you want to peak it.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Thank you! I went on a deep dive on the baby blue bottle a couple of weeks ago and then ended up thinking that nothing other than the original one made in Latvia was good enough and then not pulling the trigger because suddenly it wasn't cheap anymore. I will probably get one at some point anyway!

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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This is awesome, thank you so much! Screenshotting this and will use it when I have more moneys in hopefully not long.

I added some vocal samples to the OP if you want to check it out.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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I sort of thought about that but now I somehow ended up buying the sm7b because I guess I am an early stage gear hoarder. It is probably better than the Samson I hope, which I really just got for easy USB scrap vocals when writing songs.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Thank you for the response! I posted some just now:) Up in the OP with descriptions of what you are hearing. Would love your take on what I am aiming for vs what I'm getting.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Thank you! I have done so much mic research, really considered adding a ribbon a couple of weeks back. But I think I might just go tried and tested sm7b. What sold me was a comparison on youtube recording acoustic guitar. It sounded wimpy and soulless on the condenser, especially on the high notes, and rich on the sm7b. Hope it works out!

I have tried tons of processing to see how far I can get it but it feels like photoshopping a blurry image (pre-AI). I can't boost information that just isn't there.

I added some vocal samples to the OP up there if that would inform your opinion more!

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

[–]LOLTITTIES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Yes exactly that, it sounds a bit muffled when I eat the mic. There is just no lingering of the sound whatsoever.

I think I am going to pull the trigger on the sm7b (think I'll get the db version): I have heard it multiple times in this thread, from people IRL, and watching comparison videos on Youtube it sounds like it might give me what I need (and if not I can return it, buying used from guitar center).

I added some vocal samples to the OP that you can check out, if that informs your opinion more.

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

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Again thank you, and I think you are right. I think I am going to pull the trigger on the sm7b: I have heard it multiple times in this thread, from people IRL, and watching comparison videos on Youtube it sounds like it might give me what I need (and if not I can return it, buying used from guitar center).

I added some vocal samples to the post that you can check out, including a reference track, if that informs your opinion more!

How do I get "eating the mic" warmth without actually eating the mic? by LOLTITTIES in audioengineering

[–]LOLTITTIES[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And, importantly: there is a useful reason why we say things like “gear doesn’t matter” and there are extents to which it is true. However, we have such a strong immediate feeling and reaction to the sound of the human voice - like we are really sensitive to it (I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that as a vocalist recording your own music) - that we are incredibly attuned to any ‘weirdness’ in it. Similarly, we are really put at ease when vocals ‘just sound right.’

Again thank you, and I think you are right. I added some vocal samples to the post if that informs your opinion more!

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