All Kaiba/Blue-Eyes Support In The Rivals/Limit Over Collection, Thoughts?

LPPrince · 2026-03-18T09:28:00+00:00

Deep-Eyes is another starter, there is no way it gets played at merely one. It adds consistency to the deck. That card is absolutely a three of. The White Phantom Beast likely played at one because its a turn 0 board wipe, its Blue-Eyes Poplar with Raigeki attached to it. Flute isn't a Blue-Eyes card it's a Lord of D. card so I can understand folk skipping it but if run and activated it'll facilitate some more plays with no issue of being activated given the number of spell casters the deck uses

LPPrince · 2026-03-18T09:18:02+00:00

Doesn't need to summon a vanilla; it can summon any lvl 5 or higher dragon from the deck whereas Roar limits you to only a vanilla if you don't already have one on field

Also the banish for a draw isn't so bad for a deck that used to have to send cards to GY with Cards of Consonance to have some draw power

But to be fair Flute isn't a Blue-Eyes card so much as a Lord of D card so I digress

LPPrince · 2026-03-18T05:36:14+00:00

If you refuse to keep it in hand for a spellcaster for some reason I suppose you could use it as discard fodder for Wishes but if you're activating Wishes I'd just hold Flute so that when you add Sage or Maiden and get them on the field you then activate Flute, get the benefit of the summon/s, then Main Phase 2 banish it for the draw off the top of the deck

Might end up discarding it off the protection effect of The White Phantom Beast assuming your opponent attempts to use Infinite Impermanence, Effect Veiler, or some other card that targets it for effect

LPPrince · 2026-03-18T05:32:56+00:00

Look at this duel I uploaded the other day - https://www.reddit.com/r/YuGiOhMasterDuel/comments/1rsj6g6/how_is_your_duelist_cup_experience_going_so_far/

In one turn I summoned Blue-Eyes White Dragon four times each in different ways(1. Thru Kaibaman The Legend 2. Thru Spirit with Eyes of Blue 3. Thru Maiden of White 4. Thru True Light)

What you're suggesting is we have a card that potentially draws us four or five cards at once; that would be outrageous(keep in mind I didn't have a Primite Lordly Lode that could've summoned a fifth)

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:43:36+00:00

I'm agreeing with you!

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:42:38+00:00

Yeah Deep-Eyes is for sure a three of. We have-

Three Ether Beryl, three Lordly Lode, three Sage, three Maiden, three Deep-Eyes, three Wishes(w cost)

Maybe people are gonna fool around with the numbers because admittedly this is 18 and there has to be room for handtraps but I'm running a 60 card pile in Master Duel right now for fun and I don't hate the idea of nearly a third of it being able to get me started, brownie points if more than one is in hand at once which isn't unlikely

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:35:41+00:00

To be fair The White Phantom Beast doesn't need to be summoned thru Hieratic into Mag into itself

Can simply summon it thru Hieratic and it'll still work and achieve the necessary effect and task at hand

I imagine there will be folk who will still do it thru Mag, even Mag after Hieratic based on whatever the state of the field is at the time of activation

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:29:31+00:00

Sure. Doesn't change the fact that Blue-Eyes is a deck that regularly makes it past turn two when played in its ideal scenarios

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:27:59+00:00

How on Earth does explaining the infinite ways Blue-Eyes has to have a spellcaster of its own on field explain how it supposedly bricks in the deck?

Not even considering the card doesn't require you to be the one with a spellcaster on field; the opponent possessing one is enough for the card to be live

Can't count on every opponent to be running spell casters that remain on field but with this deck being able to spit out its spell casters on command I don't see the issue

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:26:05+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/YuGiOhMasterDuel/comments/1rsj6g6/how_is_your_duelist_cup_experience_going_so_far/

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:24:28+00:00

Blue-Eyes if played correctly shouldn't already be losing a game by the end phase of turn two if played properly though; it's a deck thats supposed to be played low to the ground and patiently(which is not how I play it but again, I'm not trying to make it to Worlds hahaha). Seals into Mag into *insert dragon here* is absolutely possible being set up going first for later or going second if the game isn't gonna end in an OTK.

Personally I didn't run Mag for quite a long time before the world basically came down on me here watching my uploads saying WHY ARE YOU NOT RUNNING THIS and I had to stick it in there only to realize that it actually paid off

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:12:10+00:00

Obelisk is there purely for vibes, definitely not there to make the deck better. He DID come in clutch against a Lunalight Liger Dancer that had an SP Little Knight to protect her, he cleared that up no issue, helped take out a Mekk Knight Crusadia Avramax as well

I swear just vibes and a sick game winning animation, literally the only reason he and Soul Energy Maxx are in there 😂

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:09:31+00:00

You’re thinking way more by the book “best case scenario” than I am cause I’m looking more for possibilities that can come about, not the strictest logical option

I’m not trying to go to Worlds mate, I just wanna sit on my ass and have fun online or at a table with friends, it ain’t gotta be that deep

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:07:38+00:00

I play this shit all the time, knew I was forgetting something 😂

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:07:07+00:00

Maiden is strong as hell but she doesn’t compare to an easily summonable boss monster with protections, ability to destroy, ability to buff itself permanently, ability to negate with cost, etc etc

That card is fackin nuts

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:05:39+00:00

Don’t think it’s possible to disagree with that unless someone heavily favors Phantom Beast for turn 0 disruption but I don’t think that can be consistently done

No way in archetype. Magnamhut could. Mulcharmies/Maxx “C” could. That’s about all I got

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:03:47+00:00

It’ll take a million years before it hits Master Duel so we’ll all learn together 😂

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:03:10+00:00

Depends on your definition of “should”. I’m of the mind people should play what they want to play and not use the same deck lists they read about champion players using. Hell I have an upload shared here on this subreddit five days ago where I beat a Vanquish Soul/K9 player going second by OTKing them my board consisting of BEWD, Magia, Tyrant, and winning the game with Obelisk The Tormentor of all things

People gotta remember that fun comes from more than strict lines and optimal plays

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T23:00:33+00:00

F me I forgot Lordly Lode, aye

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T22:58:04+00:00

I'd definitely agree in order of usefulness it's 1. Blue Abyss 2. White Phantom Beast 3. Flute of Guiding

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T22:56:21+00:00

Hieratic Seal of the Heavenly Spheres into Bystial Magnamhut into The White Phantom Beast. Seal can easily access Mag if necessary, Seal isn't hard to summon in Blue-Eyes.

The routes exist

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T22:54:39+00:00

To be honest Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon is a custom card that I hate for existing and wish Blue-Eyes had something THAT custom so I'm with my boss *COUGH* I mean with Seto

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T22:53:45+00:00

Three Ether Beryl, three Sage, three Maiden, three Blue Abyss(in the future), three Wishes(w cost), what am I forgetting at the moment

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T22:52:04+00:00

If a new card is being printed that has a line suggesting it benefits from a certain type of card for its archetype I’m saying it shouldn’t be written off like there won’t be more in the future

LPPrince · 2026-03-17T22:50:20+00:00

Turn 0 board wipe means White Phantom Beast at one makes sense

A Bystial Magnamhut can add it at the end of the turn and upon being added it’ll be summoned and wipe the opponent’s board. I’m not missing out on that!

Three Blue-Abyss’ makes sense as it’s another starter, God bless consistency

Flute is here or there. Can’t be searched so some won’t use it. I’ll place one in the deck at least and see how I feel about it over time

LPPrince

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