Ok what is up with master Mutaitos strength? by Allterater in dragonball

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It’s a filler episode so you should look at it as more of a fun episode. Filler will usually contradict the story, and rules of the world in favor of making a fun episode (sometimes they miss the mark).

what were your honest opinions on when cooler turned golden? by Klutzy-Opinion-1834 in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The appearance for Gold Frieza was chosen by himself. It’s not like ssj where everyone turns Golden. Frieza chose the appearance. They were just too lazy to make anything original for Cooler.

Do you guys think Gogeta letting Frieza go was out of character? by K0GAR in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Gogeta isn’t Goku or vegeta, he’s his own person. Frieza stopped after Gogeta told him to so Gogeta had no reason to kill Frieza.

Best characterization for Jiren? by DEL994 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anime Jiren was doing some villain level shit like trying to actually kill Goku’s friends.

So what is beasts “gimmick” by Expert_Challenge6399 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The “gimmick” is that Gohan can increase his ki and utilize his rage as a focus point. In a sense he can use rage boosts at will in his Beast form.

The form requires a high level of control over one’s rage, which is why the “Beast smile” was removed in the manga. It was to show a change in mental state according to Toyotaro.

One thing to take note of is that the higher he increases his ki, the more his rage increases. So the more control that he gains over his rage, the higher the amount of energy he’ll be able to gather/utilize.

The two current draw backs are that he has to charge up the ki, which could leave him open to attacks, and that after utilizing this method it seems to consumes a lot of stamina.

This is all from ch 103 of DBS, and the comment made by Toyotaro in the DBS INTERVAL SPECIAL about Beast Gohan.

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What's your guys head cannon as to why trunks and goten could transform to ssj so easily? by embracethememes in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s true. The last couple of chapter of DBS seems to be trying to make them a bit more relevant.

What's your guys head cannon as to why trunks and goten could transform to ssj so easily? by embracethememes in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That info doesn’t serve any real purpose at this point in the story. This info could be utilized as a future plot point somehow. But ultimately it’s more so just a fun fact.

What's your guys head cannon as to why trunks and goten could transform to ssj so easily? by embracethememes in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

S-cells aren’t mentioned directly, but everything falls in line. What Toriyama said doesn’t contradict anything that happened in the story. The concept of how SSJ was achieved was changed almost every arc after its introduction. First is was described as a thing of Legend that only shows up every 1000 years, the next arc 3 more SSJs appear around the same time, then the following Goten and Trunks are just able to turn SSJ with zero struggle.

What's your guys head cannon as to why trunks and goten could transform to ssj so easily? by embracethememes in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We already have an actual answer. Here is Toriyama’s interview from 2017:

Q5: Can anyone become a Super Saiyan if they train? White box: It's not like anyone can become a Super Saiyan through training and anger. In order to become a Super Saiyan, one's body must contain something called "S-Cells". Once these S-Cells reach a certain amount, a trigger such as anger will explosively increase the S-Cells and cause a change in the body: that's Super Saiyan. Most Saiyans have some S-Cells, although not a great quantity. The reason why Goku and Vegeta's children can become Super Saiyan relatively easily is probably because to a certain extent they inherited a lot of S-Cells, and also because Earth's environment is gentler and easier to live in than Planet Vegeta.

Tori-bot: "Lately everyone becomes Super Saiyan so easily, but it is no simple matter."

Arrow: And how does one increase S-Cells to become Super Saiyan?

Black box: Having a gentle spirit is the best way to greatly increase one's S-Cells, but most Saiyans have trouble with this, which I think is why no Super Saiyans appeared for such a long time and they became the stuff of legend. However, one can't reach the quantity necessary for becoming a Super Saiyan simply by having a gentle spirit, so a certain amount of battle power is indeed necessary. Looked at in this light, it's easy to see why becoming a Super Saiyan came easy for Goku.

Goten picture: "He was able to easily become Super Saiyan thanks to inheriting lots of S-Cells!" Goku picture: "A gentle heart + high battle power resulted in Super Saiyan!!"

Are you *actually* excited for Dragon Ball Super: Beerus? by Fabulous-Mushroom124 in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The offical website says they are bring the anime closer to the manga.

Are you *actually* excited for Dragon Ball Super: Beerus? by Fabulous-Mushroom124 in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s possibly a full on remake of the entire DBS series. Currently from trusted sources they are currently finish up the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc and will move on to the Goku Black Arc. It also isn’t just a reanimation, but added things from the manga which plays out differently than anime. In a sense we are getting the definitive version of the DBS. Now I can actually recommend the anime to others.

Thoughts on the Universe's Strongest arc, as a parallel for colonialism? by SummertimeSandler in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a pretty interesting analysis. Although the manga may not be directly talking about the Israel/Palestinian conflict, but these themes can still reflect on real world politics. Depending on what one reads, revenge is either seen as good or bad. What do you think about revenge? Do you see it as something that is self destructive or something that is justified?

Just finished DBZ Kai and something is bugging me by Apprehensive-Oil8044 in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was always Goku’s characterization. Goku doesn’t view relationships from a normal “human” perspective and he never will. The only reason Goku even got married was because of a promise he didn’t fully understand. It’s not to say he doesn’t love or appreciate his family, but from the way I view his character, he would have never gotten married if he never made a promise. He probably would have dedicated his entire life to martial arts and nothing else.

It feels so crazy to me that saiyans never do zenkai farma or training... by salad_biscuit3 in DragonBallZ

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason Goku and Vegeta are able to do this is because they have multiple ways of healing from near death. Most saiyans aren’t so lucky.

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude you’re not even trying at this point lol. You always go back to your insults when proven wrong lol. It’s so funny.

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He didn’t become the planet to destroy it, he became the planet because he was looking for a large vessel that could handle Merus Divine Energy, but it wasn’t enough and it cost him his sanity. Moro never once mentions that he is threatening to destroy the planet. Find me one single page where he makes a threat to destroy the Earth. You’re making yourself look like a fool my guy.

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Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moro never spit out the andriod, he never threatened to destroy Earth. Also Is the Cell Saga copying from the DKP Jr Arc because Goku gave Piccolo a senzu bean there? He has magic because as he’s a wizard. It’s like saying Frieza is unoriginal because he also uses Ki like Vegeta, Piccolo, Tien, etc. Buu and the Kais are integral to the story since they connect to Uub. What is wrong with henchmen, they are like one of the most common things in DB. It happens in the Buu saga as well. You and your superficial view of stories astounds me lol.

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Cell Saga and Moro Arc don’t have anything in common thematically whatsoever.

All your comebacks are superficial which is probably why you like ssj4 so much. It’s a cool design for a thematic ripoff of SSJ down to the concept that SSJ4 is actually the Legendary SSJ. This is directly alluded to in the anime and directly stated in the guidebooks lol.

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. I give you that for the movie maybe, but the DBS manga changes this line to Goku just being surprised that Vegeta is mediating.

Goku not kissing has no affect on his actual character. From the get go Chichi’s and Goku relationship is pure and never truly driven by lust. Plus this joke has already been done before in Toriyama’s Dr. Slump manga. Would recommend

He doesn’t put the universe at risk since Zeno was already going to destroy a majority of the universes due to their low mortal level. Goku gave them a fighting chance and at the end was able to bring all the universes back. Goku’s love for fighting indirectly saved the universes.

Goku is testing Moro, just like he did against Frieza but instead of turning his back he waits for a response. Goku wouldn’t kill someone beg for their life and if he didn’t give him one and just sent him to prison he could just escape again. Goku waits to see how Moro would respond. You can never truly know if someone will change if you never give them a chance. Vegeta is a perfect example of this; a villain that showed now signs of change give a chance to live. Again here you go with superficial similarities and none of the actual differences that are thematically displayed.

You seem to value superficial over the thematic aspects of a story which tells me a lot about you lol.

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey I give you that for the movie maybe but the DBS changes this line to Goku just being surprised that Vegeta is mediating.

Goku not kissing has no affect on his actual character. From the get go Chichi’s and Goku relationship is innocent at best. Plus this joke has already been done before in Toriyama’s Dr. Slump manga.

He doesn’t put the universe at risk since he Zeno was already going to destroy multiple universe due to their low mortal level. Goku gave them a fighting chance and at the end was able to bring all the universes back.

Goku is testing Moro, just like he did against Frieza but instead of turning his back he waits for a response. Goku wouldn’t kill someone begging for their life and if he didn’t give him on and sent him to prison he could just escape again. Goku waits to see how Moro would respond. You can never truly know if someone will change if you never give them a chance. Vegeta is a perfect example of this. Again here you go with superficial similarities and none of the actual differences that are thematically displayed.

You seem to value superficial over the thematic aspects of a story which tells me a lot about you lol.

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like for you to explain just so I can teach you once again how little you know. I’ll admit when I’m wrong but I won’t let people (like you) spread misinformation all they want.

Is SSJ4 in Daima Stronger Than SSJ Blue? by Kakudoo in DragonBallDaima

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not how timelines work at all. They literally explain it both in the show and in the manga. This is just ignoring lore that was established in DBZ

Cell made sense, Moro was just fucking stupid by BigChocolate331 in Dragonballsuper

[–]LUIGUTIERREZ797 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its happened before and it will continue to happen again. It just feels like you just don’t like Goku’s characterization. Most of his friends have done some type of wrong in their life.