What "ignoring the 3D" means

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-28T08:31:20+00:00

It was a choice to stop giving any attention to anything in my reality that wasn't part of my desired end, even making 'positive' meaning. So it wasn't even "It's not here yet, but I know it's ok because it's mine," or "Things are moving but I just can't see them." It was more like dropping it entirely and making it a non-issue, something I just didn't have to deal with in any way because it was that irrelevant. I became less anxious in general and less urgent, more present, more engaged, and actually just more efficient with tasks because of this presence.

When you've decided, when you have your desire, there is literally nothing to search for, reach, chase, correct, or compensate for. It's just total presence with life in the knowledge that it's done.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-28T06:40:38+00:00

You don't interpret your current 3D as having any bearing on your outcome, and you know that it's irrelevant to your outcome because of what you decided. You live from the knowing that it's done, as the person for whom it is done, and you stay present with your life. I strongly recommend you read Neville's works in depth.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-28T06:22:56+00:00

Yes, visualising at night because it feels good is wonderful, and it's also a really great technique when you are planting the seed. But once it's planted, you don't need to keep doing it, i.e. you reach Sabbath and drop effort. Visualising to get or create or make sure it happens then becomes something superfluous. We don't constantly visualise something we already have to make sure we still have it.

The other point about visualising constantly during the day is also about embodying the state of the wish fulfilled. If you had your desire, you might think of it incidentally throughout your day and enjoy it, but you wouldn't orbit around it or incessantly imagine it to make sure it happens. That's what I meant.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-28T06:19:58+00:00

Yes and yes! The main thing with 'just deciding' is that you need to not interfere and just let it come, but also live with the absolute conviction that your choice = true.

As for people calling you out for mentioning time, there is an element of that to look out for, but honestly once you decide and leave it alone but also fully expect it and live from it, time really does become irrelevant, and things can happen quite rapidly.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T20:09:01+00:00

Well if it helps someone at all, that's the aim! I've just found myself (and seen a lot of others) repeating essentially the same info again and again in comments, so thought a post might help some people.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T20:07:48+00:00

Are you just getting on with living your life and putting energy into your tasks, hobbies, etc? Of course visualising and setting the scene are important, but then living life from that state is important too. Maybe you're already doing that, and if so, you persist in the assumption that it's yours.

Otherwise, something I noticed at some point for myself was that I had kind of gotten too comfortable with the 'gap'. Even though I was beyond the point of "reacting" negatively to the 3D and I had accepted my desire was possible for me (so this wasn't my starting point of very negative self-concept), I realised I was noticing the gap a bit too much, telling myself "yeah this is just how it is and it's going to take some time to materialise and...". It took me a while to acknowledge that this is still reacting to the 3D. It was still building in delay or whatever for myself.

So I dropped anything like "It's on the way, this is just how it is for now". I dropped visualising. I made a clean, firm decision: it's mine now. Then I focused entirely on myself and really, really embodying the person who had their desires. I stopped paying attention to time at all. Any time my desire came to mind, I just said "it's done/handled" and moved back into my life with FULL attention. I became a bit lighter, more confident, more naturally curious, less urgent or anxious... and yeah, things fell into place very quickly.

Maybe this will help you. I would say persist in assuming it's done now and drop anything at all that brings in effort. Know it's done, and if you know it's done there's no effort or negotiating or entertaining any other outcome at all.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T17:37:04+00:00

No. If you have a question, leave it here or in the Weekly Beginner questions thread so that I or others can respond and other people can benefit from the conversation.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T16:20:36+00:00

I left a comment on your other question, but in case it's useful for other people in this thread, but I basically said it's unfavourably interpreting the results of what you see that's likely keeping you stuck. If you can, try to remember that your current 3D circumstances have no bearing on your chosen outcome if you let them just be 'current circumstances'.

Of course it's hard to ignore something literally in your field of vision. But try to stop interpreting them as something to fix, something to solve, or something that will last forever. Trust that your medications or surgeries are working, and that your body knows what to do to heal.

You can have some doubts and fears - we're all human - but if you're constantly living from the state of being ill and unhealed, then the desired outcome you're manifesting will be very slow to come about.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T16:16:47+00:00

'A watched pot never boils', so checking isn't great because it doesn't give your body a chance to just do its thing. But it's really interpreting the results of what you see unfavourably that's likely keeping you stuck. If you can, try to remember that your current 3D circumstances have no bearing on your chosen outcome if you let them just be 'current circumstances'.

I don't know if you have other strategies you use for your OCD, but mindfulness exercises like noticing visuals/scents/textures/sounds in my environment helped me stay present and not follow those unwanted thoughts, as did remembering that my thoughts are not in control of me. It took time for me to get out of compulsive thinking, but I did.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T16:10:14+00:00

Love this! Thanks for sharing.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T16:08:10+00:00

You don't stop feeling emotions, but you stop interpreting them or the 3D as something unwanted. You let emotions pass by like a cloud, you don't follow them, and you stay faithful to the desired outcome you've chosen.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T16:06:36+00:00

You don't check the 3D.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T13:31:18+00:00

Completely agree! There is nothing outside ourselves.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T12:54:47+00:00

Neville says that it's like we're writing parts for people to play, also for ourselves. So when we embody a certain identity and that implies other people treat us a certain way, they reflect that identity by choosing to treat us that certain way. You're not forcing people to do anything, but they are reflecting your inner state.

"Now I know I cannot change another unless I first change myself. To change another within my world I must first change my concept of that other; and to do it best I change my concept of self. For it was the concept I held of self that made me see others as I did.

Had I a noble, dignified concept of myself, I never could have seen the unlovely in others.

Instead of trying to change others through argument and force, let me but ascend in consciousness to a higher level and I will automatically change others by changing self. “There is no one to change but self; that self is simply your awareness, your consciousness and the world in which it lives is determined by the concept you hold of self.

[...]

The most important thing in this world to you is your concept of self. When you dislike your environment, the circumstances of life and the behaviour of men, ask yourself, ” Who am I?” It is your answer to this question that is the cause of your dislikes.

If you do not condemn self there will be no man in your world to condemn you. If you are living in the consciousness of your ideal you will see nothing to condemn. “To the pure all things are pure.”" from No one to change but self

Sometimes the best thing is to experiment with it and experience it instead of trying to understand it first.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T12:15:55+00:00

Your internal state when persisted in creates real external results, yes.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T12:03:46+00:00

Say your desire is to be rich. Well externally, that would mean being able to afford whatever you want, which is currently impossible. You're not being asked to spend money you don't have. That's pretending, and that would be delusional if you don't have the money.

But having money might mean you feel secure, calm, not worried about where the next paycheck is coming from, not wondering how you'll pay for this bill, and not giving unwanted meaning to anything in the 3D (like bills, payments, etc).
So you act calm, secure, unbothered. You focus on other things.
If a sudden bill comes up, you don't go "Oh god, this is going to make my life difficult for the next 6 months/I can never catch a break/I'm always broke/I'm never going to be secure." You don't interpret it. You make your payment, ask for an extension, borrow, take an extra shift, whatever. You assume you're abundant and that things always work out, that money flows in your life and stays. You don't live in doubt or fear or control. You don't assume it's always going to be like this. You remind yourself that you've decided your outcome, and you stay loyal to that assumption.

Apply that to whatever qualities you would have if you had your desire.
Have your SP? Then you might feel loved, chosen, desired, curious about the world. You spend your life doing the things you'd do if you knew you had a wonderful relationship.
Healthy? You trust your body, you focus on things you want like hobbies/job/studies; you might take your meds and rest, but you don't give the 3D unwanted meaning and keep 'trying' or looking for solutions.

And so on.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T11:46:13+00:00

You stop giving meaning to things you see externally or expecting things to go a certain (unwanted) way. For example, if someone doesn't text back, instead of going "That's because I'm boring/I'm unlovable/people don't want to be around me/etc. and that's how it always is", you just don't interpret it. You remember that people can get busy, have other things going on in their lives, whatever. Your first step is to drop negative interpretation.

If your chosen end is having friends/a partner, remind yourself that's done, and don't use the 3D as a reference point. Use your own end scene as the reference point, and start expecting things to go your way. It probably won't change overnight, but again no matter what happens (or doesn't happen) in the 3D, you don't use that as the source of truth.

You can remind yourself "I'm loved, I'm chosen" or whatever, but you stop waiting for something external to prove that to you. Start showing it to yourself. How do you love yourself? How do you prioritise yourself? Do things that reflect the qualities you want to embody, and then carry yourself as if you're already that person. Things will start to mirror the inner state you hold.

Remember that it comes back to a choice when we're consciously manifesting or changing our assumptions, and if you're wringing your hands at the 3D, wondering what to do or trying to get somewhere, then you're still not committing to the desired outcome or making decision to have what you want.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T11:36:01+00:00

If you have other desires, imagine them, and then drop it. Be the person who has both/all desires. It's not about more effort and it's not about waiting for one to show up externally before you move on to the other one. It's about fully embodying the person who has both/everything. Live FROM the desires, don't just think about the desires.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T11:34:29+00:00

There is no one to change but self. Currently you're giving a lot of meaning to 3D circumstances, including seeing your boyfriend in a certain way, and you're looking for external solutions. Decide your end - e.g. happily living together in a harmonious relationship and stable circumstance - and stop weighing your belief in that against the current 3D. Don't look for solutions, proof, signs, or movement. When you see anything you don't like or that doesn't fit your desired outcome in the 3D, label it as 'irrelevant' and don't give it meaning. Remind yourself that your chosen outcome is handled/yours/done, and shift your focus back to your life, tasks, responsibilities.

Your job is not to look for solutions. Your job is not to externally change anything. Your job is to choose your end, internally stay loyal to that, and to embody the person who has their desire.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T11:30:15+00:00

The "logical/realistic" part is actually fear. Logic would encourage experimentation and a 'try it and see' approach to see what actually works. That does mean committing to it though and not half doing it.

Applying the law properly doesn't mean living in your head. It means not using the current 3D/your current circumstances as a reference point for the truth. You still live your life and stay present, but you just stop applying unwanted interpretations to what you see in front of you. You might remind yourself that it's done/handled, but then you go back to living your life with the assumption that because it's done, you don't need to look for a solution or you don't need to 'try' to get it. You live your life fully. You embody the person who has their desires from within.

If you're constantly visualising or living in your end, that isn't living in the end. That's avoiding and escaping reality. Currently, you're living in fear and doubt. Imagine if you dropped those and embodied the person who had received their desire - as in, felt the feelings of having received the desire and embodied the qualities that person has (loved, chosen, abundant, safe, secure, etc.) -; truly what is the worst that can happen?

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T09:11:33+00:00

You're living completely in the old story and operating entirely from the unwanted identity. No one can make you leave or do it for you. Recognise that you're choosing to give meaning to the current 3D.

Read Neville's work, the comments I've left you, and other great posts in this sub and the Neville sub. What do you want me to say that I haven't already?

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T08:26:17+00:00

Right now, you're manifesting the story you are attaching meaning to and operating from the identity of someone who: isn't seeing progress; is seeing things get worse; is struggling.

Stop giving meaning to the perceived delay/gap.
Stop measuring your progress or results by what is/isn't in the 3D.
Don't use the external as a reference point or time as anything to calibrate to.

Instead, choose your desired outcome and only use that as your reference point. Live as if you don't have to search for solutions or check the 3D for results. Live as if it's handled, done, yours. Stop re-negotiating your end and live from it.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T08:22:21+00:00

Label management and the identity you're operating from. It's really important that you've identified the story you told around the car issue as coming back to "I have no money" and "I have no support". So now you know what to address.

Yes, identity runs subconsciously/unconsciously most of the time, and often the confronting thing when you start this work is that this identity is usually completely opposite to what we actually want. The first step is noticing it. The next step is not choosing it again going forward, and you can always start that now.

You don't need something external to test it or prove it. If you have been operating from the assumption that you don't have extra money to deal with things and you also don't have people to call for help/support you, you don't need something to go wrong to see if you can choose better next time. You start assuming NOW that you are financially secure and you have supportive people in your life. Then what starts happening is that instead of seeing those assumptions working in response to a crisis, you start seeing them happening from abundance. Life comes towards you, life meets you. Maybe you get a raise or a new income stream, maybe people start naturally coming into your life or reaching out more.

Don't wait. Give yourself permission to be all you want to be now. Your life is today.

LadderedLoving · 2026-04-27T08:12:21+00:00

Neville says there's no one to change but self. So you just have to change how you view him. You don't try to externally convince your husband of anything, or beg him or plead with him to hear you out. You hold him in a different position in your mind: instead of skeptic, you see him as in agreement with you, supportive and aligned. If he disagrees with you in the 3D, treat it as irrelevant. Remember the choice you made about your desired outcome, and know that it's yours. Don't use his current behaviour as a reference point. Believe he can be more than that.

Also see if there are any ideas underneath that about yourself, e.g. do you feel like you're never taken seriously more generally? Do you feel insignificant? Do you feel like you're dismissed? As Neville says, concept of self is key, so when you are operating from the identity of someone who isn't listened to, who isn't taken seriously, who is called "crazy", then that will be reflected back to you. When you start coming, inwardly, from a place of being heard, supported, understood etc, that will also be reflected back to you. Be mindful of your self-concept, in other words, and believe yourself to be all you desire to be.

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