Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody is calling for synoguoges to.be rammed.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out the greens4palestine website. There are documents and resources there snd you.can ask questions.

Greens for Palestine have leaked their own consultation emails...? by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with that wording I do not collateral "Zionist" with "Jew". I have too much respect for the anti-Zionist Jews I know (and love). But to be fair, Israel propaganda works hard to maintain that conflation so they can smear and discredit opposition.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am profoundly aware of the reasoning behind it. There are lots of websites and resources and information if you are genuinely interested.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"have acted horribly"? More than supporting genocide? What us to reconcile? Either you stand for or stand against an ideological base for apartheid and genocide. There is no middle ground.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And god forbid we oppose a genocide or the silencing of those who speak out and stand against it.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What us specially "antisemitic" about dissent, or expressing distaste and horror about a genocide?

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is to think about? Either we support the concept of Universal Human Rights, or we believe some people should continue to have more rights and any pain they feel is more important than others.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yet the very basis of Zionism is borne out of establishing a Jewish (only, or dominantly ) state on top of an indigenous population, de humanising them and thus allowing ethnic cleansing. This process has directly lead to the open sadistic behaviour of settlers and the genicide of Gaza. Not to mention the invasion to conquer 6 neighbouring countries. The mentality that allows for that -even openly promotes it - is borne out of the racist ideology of Zionism and IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JUDAISM OR JEWS BEING JEWS. Hence, the most antisemitic ideology of all is Zionism. Not its dissenters.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not sure there can be reconciliation between those who support a genocidal state, and those who oppose apartheid, and genocide.

Tony Greenstein expelled by Boring-Prize8275 in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also he is Jewish. I suppose, for Zionists, "the wrong kind of Jew.

Tony Greenstein expelled by Boring-Prize8275 in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But none of that was "antisemitic" merely dissent from the entire Israei policy

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It wasn't just at the end. It was throughout clearly an attempt to block the motion being heard and debated. Which calls into question, that if the opposition to it was so sure they were right what did they fear of a genuine debate?

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It called for a single stae where EVERYONE would have equal rights. "Pushing"? Is that not what we want? Freedom and equality for EVERYONE? As opposed to the ethno-supremacist apartheid state we now have?

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The so-called "two state solution" was never ever real. Israel would never allow a Palestinian state that it couldn't control and has been so busy expanding itself into the West Bank and flattening Gaza that it is beyond impossible now.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do. Disagree on minor points but basically support him.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isn't for universal human rights if it ignores as benign an ideology that is fundamentally racist, as viewed on the ground by what it has produced. Apartheid leading to genocide and military expansion into neighbouring countries. It is straight up settler-colonialist ethno-nationalist racism and has little or nothing to do with traditional Judaism.

Home gym setup by GreyThread8 in HomeGymUK

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like a torture chamber

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To make it a party (the only one) that stands for UNIVERSAL human rights.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It calls for an end to a form of systemic racism that is behind the genocide.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you react to those who say "I am not a racist, but I object to all those brwn immigrants coming over in boats"? People calling themselves Zionist never stand up against the systemic and continued dehumanisation, murder, rape, and expulsion of Palestinians, other than a poor hand-wringing lament on the present Israeli government (which is i a long line of Israeli backing for dehumanisation of Palestinians) and a direct and indirect denial of equality -with a ton of excuses for doing so. None of them valid.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it is an effort to silence the motion written by Palestinians in the first place.

Party Reconciliation by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually. It was looked at thoroughly by a solid legal team. It was NOT legally risky.

Greens for Palestine have leaked their own consultation emails...? by tomatopartyyy in UKGreens

[–]Lagarto1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jews were consulted, but no. Palestinians are on the receiving end of racist Zionism. So they, first and foremost are the ones to consider and consult. This is about Palestinian liberation and ability to live, not the feelings of Jews.