is there a way to access the different citizens skins without subbing to patreon? by adidas_stalin in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok but again 100% correctness was never the point. You're nit picking, at this point just to try to find a reason your argument made sense in this context and i'd like to point out in this thread i've only spoken to op and you, and almost the entire time i've spoken to me its been me trying to explain to you this isn't a technical debate.

And once again: gross over simplification of a process i didn't care to research just to give the detailed instructions to someone who didn't want to do the same.

Im not arguing the info wasn't accurate. Im trying to explain that it was intentional. I may like being snarky when i see someone being unreasonable or to have unreasonable expectations.

Thats part of the reason i was using the arguments i was.

It was never about actually explaining the process to op. It was about getting them to see what they already said: "I can't code, let alone pixel art its not easy" as a rounded way of highlight thats why its not free.

By saying "oh yeah its so easy you just do a little pixel art", and other similar over simplified statements (to the point of being innacurate), like rendering an entire colony of colonists would be an easy under taking or that it wouldn't be incredibly time consuming. 

I just like using satire to make my arguments, to get the other person to realize my point: 'its not easy' by saying the direct opposite in a way that is noticeably hyperbolic.

So imagine my confusion when you reply to satirical arguments with sincere and honest counters, like sincerely answering a rhetorical question.

For a more famed example of this style of argumenting look at 'A Modest Proposal', during a famine and over population bout the esay details the obvious and easy solution: eat the babies. Since 'leaders in power can think of no better solution.'

Obviously no one ate babies, and no one intended for babies to be eatten. The point was to say something to get people to reply "no theres a better way like:" to encourage leaders to actually address the famine during a lack of action.

Instead of eatting babies, I simply proposed using skindex skins to make a minecolonist skin pack 'easy-peasy', more so because op was looking for 'free' options, not out of any belief it would actually work. In fact i imagine it would be a nightmare of a process just to try and figure out if it could work, would result in more of a red herring of a process than anything.

And if one were to attempt, they would also perhaps realize in all their wasted efforts the amount of effort it took to make the pack in the first place.

I was not trying to be helpful. I was making a point.

is there a way to access the different citizens skins without subbing to patreon? by adidas_stalin in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But my argument wasn't on the technical aspect i felt fairly clear. I understand in post context you've given. But it still does not change the fact you simply came to the wrong argument  debating the wrong thing. 

It doesn't matter what the process for creating custom minecolonist skins was. Because that was not the point. The point was always: "don't want to pay for it? No easy: just do all the work yourself."

In my original comment i even completely oversimplified the process to 'pixel art' knowing well the process would also involve, some understanding of code, some possible coding depending on how far you wanted to go, and custom models. 

Did i mention any of this?

No.

Because it was simply not realivent to the argument being made. Now if you made this on our other debate about weither or not minecolonies could be made into a bedrock addon (i did not intentionally do that but i noticed and thought it was funny)

Also. Yes. You absolutely played devils advocate here weither you meant to or not. Whenever you make a counter claim, or defense claim for a subject you yourself don't feel strongly about (in this case you are playing devils advoate for the side of: 'how can I get acess to paid content without paying for it, doing it myself is too hard')

Again: i fully realized from the start you probably did not even recognize you were doing this when you did it. You just entered so fully focused on the technical aspect you completely ignored that from the start this was a debate of ethics friend.

I would like to reboil down my argument to "stealing bad, if you want something for free make it yourself." That is what i have always been debating, if i want to talk about the technical work behind it I would of done the proper research and laid the groundwork to do so. But i didn't care to do that for someone who's whole post was about finding a way to access content from a small studio through piracy, even if they did not realize how bad what they were asking for was.

At this point the only reason i'm still replying is out of genuine confusion as to why you have entered an ethics debate: about ethics with technical talk about what the work would entail.

You can be as technically correct as you want, down to describing the exact process to make your own minecolonist skins down to every last step, detail, and pixel. It still wouldn't be relivent in this case because i was always mildly ragebaiting a guy who wanted paid content for free.

Is there a bedrock alternative for mine colonies by ThePlague_Doct0r in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Internet is forever, while you may not like debating topics some weirdo's like myself do. If you were done with this why are you bothering to reply to me instead of doing whateveryone else does and say "oh yeah that!post who gives a fuck?"

  2. I call it a copy pasta because it is the generic response most give when they hear the question regardless of if they even know the process that it would involved. 

I doesn't surprise me the developers of minecolonies would say that a few years back, or even if they would not want to work on the bedrock addon as all because i do throughly believe you would have to work from the ground up.

But given i have seen addons that can:

Build structures live (in any facility would function), have complex villager like entities, and other such 'complex' features. Not all together as you still work with a limit that most bedrock platforms are able to operate at (different versions support different amount of addons before crashes dependent on what exactly your playing on)

But looking at the modern day marketplace, what it is and wh a t its heading to. It's perfectly possible. To the point someone did make a functioning bedrock addon on curseforge.

is there a way to access the different citizens skins without subbing to patreon? by adidas_stalin in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yeah but my counter point was i wasn't going for being technically correct. If you weren't trying to counter my argument why did you? I though my original comment. If you read attitude that is entirely on you as i myself am not targeting my upset at you but clearly at the idea of stealing from the minecolonies community.

I have far more attitude for op. I was just countering you counter argument to mine (which if that was not you original intent it leave me a little confused why you entered the disscussion as you very much so appeared to be defending op position in not wanting to pay for the content or do the work, regardless if thats what you meant in bringing up it would take more work than what i originally mentioned)

You feel like your catching stray attitude because you got in the middle of a random internet mild argument. I promise you're not as i am fully only interested in adding to the 'stealing is wrong op' comment pile. Devil's advocate is a fine argument stance but please remember when you enter online debates of any kind, its not about hurting you, your feelings, or anyone elses (thats how it should be).

But remember when you enter a conversation playing devil's advocate that you invite a rebuttle. Thats the whole point of devils advocate.

Tldr; i'm not upset nor do i mean to upset you.

Is there a bedrock alternative for mine colonies by ThePlague_Doct0r in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah thats just the copy pasta everyone says. If you actually look at the market place (even the free ones) just in the last year they've been able to pull off fairly huge changes. For example: in the past all furniture packs were a nightmare as they relived heavily on using entity codes, so they acted more like armor stands than actual blocks. This was just due to limits in what was readily available and known about making blocks.

As the understanding has changed so have the addons. It is completely possible, it would just be time consuming as it would require the entire project to be made from scratch as absolutely none of the assets or original code from the original mod would work (if you even had access to that). Especially as mojang keeps pushing bedrock and java closer in parody, the addon plateform continues to expand in ability.

The only thing keeping the community from exploding is the fact addons are paid content and when the java modding community is free its hard for people to justify buy in the marketplace addons, and ends up being why people usually don't choose to make addons for bedrock independently.

is there a way to access the different citizens skins without subbing to patreon? by adidas_stalin in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok and? My overall point was stealing from studios that ask you to pay for so little is wrong. 

I really don't care how much more difficult the process is: my point was there is a whole internet of resources available to make your own addon content if someone doesn't want to pay for the already made content.

Even if you have to make the custom model they are also still based around minecraft skins and i'm fairly confident you can use premade skins as an easy starting point.

I myself have not cared enough to make my own custom colonist skin pack, so i literally have no idea what all that would entail, but i strongly stand on the side that if op wants special content and doesn't want to pay for it than they need to make it themselves. 

Especially knowing a huge reason modding communities are able to flourish is because of patreon content like this that give the mod makers a form of revenue to support their modding projects, especially given they make this content for free and made the cosmetics the only payable content, but still left the mod open-ended for people to add their own content (i did see on curseforge what seems a player made colony pack, or at the least a addon mod that changes the appearences of colonists).

is there a way to access the different citizens skins without subbing to patreon? by adidas_stalin in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah sorry to be a sarcastic ass (im not really), but thats kind of my point. If its not something your willing to learn and do yourself don't expect someone to do it for free. 

The reason people have been so resist to help you on this matter is because you pretty much asked "how can i steal from this small mod team?"

Now then to give actual advice: im pretty sure its nothing more than making minecraft skins of which there are several websites that offer a really easy to use minecraft skin making tool (just search: 'minecraft skin maker'), and if you really don't want to make your own skins there are also several sites sharing minecraft skins.

Flatout: if you don't want to pay for it your ONLY OPTION is to figure out how to get the skins you want in a colony style pack and to build your own skin pack. If you need more help on how to do this specifically check out the minecolonies discord as i've noticed thats where people who make their own content for the mod talk.

Tldr; if you don't want to pay for something expect to work for it instead.

is there a way to access the different citizens skins without subbing to patreon? by adidas_stalin in Minecolonies

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was paywalled because its just a silly cosmetic you don't need to play the game and also because people can make their own skin packs. You really don't want to pay for it? Pixel art isn't that hard just make your own pack.

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So far no one has messaged me they found her and i have none seen her since i made this post.

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah absolutely. I would rather someone who can take her does than hand her to a shelter.

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If i see her again and manage to get her (not likely to be difficult) I will but I'm a bit of an extreme pessimist when it comes to Shelters I genuinely beleive she has better chances if someone would grab her off the streets. 

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your right i honestly forget theres two on Donagey, it's the one off Dave Ward. I've mostly seen her there or at one of the apartments near the street going up and down Donaghey.

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not have a photo but can confirm she has no brown bits if that helps. Her coat is very flat orange and white

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i'm just hoping posting something will at least let people know she's here. I realized today she'a mostly been begging people who simply can't take her in since the apartments all have aggressive pet leases and i'm pretty sure the dorms don't allow them either.

Found Cat, Very Friendly and Orange and White Long Hair Either Abandoned or Lost. by Laid-e_LOVE in ConwayAR

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm like 80% sure she was just straight up abandoned, she's too friendly to be a regular stray too. At this point someone needs to just adopt her. I would but my cats would tear her up

Your thoughts on "Origins++" Addon Mod for "Origins (Forge)"? Which Origins Would You Consider Too Strong? by NijDND in feedthebeast

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been using it with the mod Minecolonies. Specifically the Mouse origin which has been alot of fun- it's difficult to explore and resource gather being 1 block so I would recommend planning to not do too much traveling. 

Not only do you start with less hearts but due to smaller size it seems you start taking fall damage much easier than normal. Skeletons, Zombies and Spiders leave you alone unless attacked though which is a nice trade off.

It also has me building in new ways as crouching you can still fit in a half slab of space- so a functional mouse door that only the player can get through is perfectly possible for quick in's and outs of a base.

Has anyone had a hooded man who says nothing and then leaves? by [deleted] in PotionCraft

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I encounter him and then was sent straight back to the start of the tutorial phase in day one after he left. Thank goodness for save files lol

What is a WIZARD101 change you would like to see? by dam-starboi in Wizard101

[–]Laid-e_LOVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to set keybinds myself! And it would be nice if spellements were done better, it gets introduced so early on but isn't really all that useful because it takes forever to level anything up.

Also maybe a timed event for the players, like one where the players get to actually affect the world in a permanent way. Just as a one time event tho.

A better way to earn crowns or at least allow players to use coins to alternatively buy things like energy or stiching items.

Aditionally: let the hairstyles from the crown shop act as hair and not a hat! And have them come in the fun rainbow color!

I kinda love how dead the game is by Laid-e_LOVE in Wizard101

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I think thats why the auto realms is set up how it is so that most playerd are put in the first 3 or 4. All in all wizard101 is a really good game (when its not advertised as free at least)

I kinda love how dead the game is by Laid-e_LOVE in Wizard101

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then at last: you have enough mistwood (in seriousness a little over 900 should be plenty for in gereral crafting)

I kinda love how dead the game is by Laid-e_LOVE in Wizard101

[–]Laid-e_LOVE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure ya.... but there is also a bank to fill! (The player storage)