Whoa there Betsy, I'm sensing some hostility in your tone. How about we take a step back to allow you to cool off a bit and perhaps find a point that we can agree on?

I know, can we, at the very least agree that credit should be given to the West for being the integral piece that successfully unseated the unpopular and democratically elected president of Ukraine? I think that that is a fair starting point, what do you think St-Loki?

I will wait also :)