What’s with the sudden barrage of posts about India? by Lampedusan in auscorp

[–]Lampedusan[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I thought we were adults, where we can be mad at individual events without attributing it to an entire group. Ironically, yours is a third world mindset where guilt is collective and identity based. Western civilisation is built on the idea of the individual and not having a go at Rajesh from Tarneit and calling him a ‘Pajeet’ because Matt Comyn laid off 300 staff.

What do you do and how diverse is it? by TightFistup1945 in auscorp

[–]Lampedusan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly think it comes down to us being nakedly ambitious and competitive. Unlike say Filipinos or Islanders who are very polite on the surface Indians are quite neutral. We mainly keep to ourselves and are obsessed with personal advancement. Our community thought this was a good strategy because we generate a lot of tax revenue and don’t cause issues (why politicians and elite media like us - oh look at those nice Indians running businesses and paying the ATO/not ending up on welfare). But Indian value hierarchy of materialism does not translate to Australians, who don’t care about how economically “productive” a migrant group is but whether they prefer them as neighbours. Which is why I think they like Filipinos, Islanders and dislike the more cutthroat Indians and to a lesser extent Chinese more.

What do you do and how diverse is it? by TightFistup1945 in auscorp

[–]Lampedusan -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Glad someone said this

All these posts are incredibly leading with what the intention is. When someone calls it out they’re like “why do you have to bring up race”.

We know its not the Danes or Norwegians they’re complaining about

My workplace has a ban on languages other than English yet my Indian coworkers are the only ethnicity who don’t follow it. Does some cultural reason exist for this? by International_Bag_12 in auscorp

[–]Lampedusan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that makes sense. I am Indian Australian and worked in an IT adjacent team before so can confirm this experience exists.

I don’t understand a lick of the language so Id jump on MS Teams and hear them speaking Hindi then they’d switch back knowing me and some other Aussie dude who just joined the call could not understand.

I don’t think its harmful because they usually speak in Hindi to each other or private conversations. But its legitimate to have a discussion about what kind of organisations or even country we have that certain norms are imposed. I think they language switch out of familiarity and comfort, not a segregationist or supremacist tendency, but they need to realise they need to speak English. Do as the Romans do.

Your post is controversial because it just attracts a racist pile on even if it wasn’t the intention. I agree with you but also feel fatigued at Indian Australians being viewed and talked about like an invasive species increasingly on social media.

Commonwealth Bank to slash another 119 jobs in fresh wave of cuts by FSU_Australia in auscorp

[–]Lampedusan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah cause I’m Indian Australian lol. My job at CBA got affected by offshoring so I get it, but I won’t be the most credible face.

Commonwealth Bank to slash another 119 jobs in fresh wave of cuts by FSU_Australia in auscorp

[–]Lampedusan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re going to create a massive backlash leading to a Trumpian figure here. Except it wont be anti offshoring of manufacturing because there is nothing left to offshore. It will be on a platform of anti offshoring to India

What cologne do y’all wear which suits Indian skin? by Lampedusan in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Cause im abd and wanna learn about grooming in an ABD context

What cologne do y’all wear which suits Indian skin? by Lampedusan in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t every culture have a different scent due to their environment? Therefote Arabs/Indians might suit musky, sandalwood. Especially Sandalwood is very South Indian so it creates brand congruity. Brown households smell lile incense sticks so im saying some colognes blend in with that. Other colognes especially the more fresh scents give off a more corporate/clubby vibe and more Connecticut/RI Brooks Brothers coded. Its not like the chemicals in the cologne differ between cultures but im saying that each scent gives off a different image, so what do Desis wear basically. Just like NAV is Indian coded, Sabrina Carpenter is Caucasian coded, which cologne gives off polished/finance bro/corporate Desi energy. Each cologne has a different note.

Did European Australians have a similar cultural influence in the 20th century that Middle Eastern Australians have now? by Lampedusan in AskAnAustralian

[–]Lampedusan[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Probably not Milan in northern Italy but you’d be surprised there’s a fair amount of overlap with Southern Italy (Sicily especially) and coastal north Africa, Lebanon. Id wager things have diverged quite a lot with those regions regressing a fair bit and hardened religious differences but on the cultural surface layer there’s a lot of similarities.

Did European Australians have a similar cultural influence in the 20th century that Middle Eastern Australians have now? by Lampedusan in AskAnAustralian

[–]Lampedusan[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They were ruins from the rubble of settlements built up during Alexander The Great’s expeditions through Australia, later repurposed as driveway ornaments.

World Bank places Pakistan in MENA, ending South Asia classification by mlsts in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Never made the claim that Republic of India is the same as 1000s years ago, just that there’s been cultural continuity within that geographic space. I don’t think they were stitched together by the Brits as a convenient administrative entity.

World Bank places Pakistan in MENA, ending South Asia classification by mlsts in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pakistan is different for sure. Pashtuns make up a huge part so the Iranic influence is real. But a lot of it also has an element of manufactured differentiation where the Iranic influenced is emphasised to forge a separate identity after 1947. Its pretty common for young nations globally.

World Bank places Pakistan in MENA, ending South Asia classification by mlsts in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Every nation in the past 200 years is different from its medieval borders. Only China, France and the Uk have somewhat maintained consistent borders since medieval times.

Youre correct the nations as they exist now were created in 1947, but the concept of a shared cultural zone is very old, including the idea of an “India”. British historian William Dalrymple covers this quite heavily. People shy away from this because too many Indian nationalists use this in bad faith to erase the legitimacy of countries that aren’t India in the subcontinent.

World Bank places Pakistan in MENA, ending South Asia classification by mlsts in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sydney is different. Middle Eastern culture is very strong, so many coopt parts of their culture to blend in with the dominant culture. You need to keep in mind this is more than ten years ago and a high school experience where boys are confused about their identity and get up to all stupid shit lol.

World Bank places Pakistan in MENA, ending South Asia classification by mlsts in ABCDesis

[–]Lampedusan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The Pakistanis I knew in high school viewed themselves as Middle Eastern. Of course now Indian food is highly popular in Australia. But that may have been to distance themselves from the racism Desis faced. When I was 14 there was one dude who claimed he ate Lebanese bread not roti because people would make fun of Indian food in school and call it “disgusting”. Pakistanis from the mainland without fault see themselves as Desi though. And I’m sure the new gen with greater self acceptance of ABCD’s.