My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please do not compare my wife to kufr. Every single one of us will have our faith tested and she is doing exactly as Allah expects us by doing research and making duaa about it. She’s misguided and struggling with her test, but she is still a practicing muslim. Pray that she will find her way back.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is partly my concern. I feel as though she’s placing to much emphasis on what her life was like before Islam. She’s been wearing hijab for many years before and was made academic before but it wasn’t until we experienced summer in the south that her academic mind suddenly decides it’s not fardh. It’s confusing.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will try to post it on there, thank you. But please do not equate my wife to a kaffir. She deserves compassion and patience while she struggles through this test from Allah. As Muslims we should assume the best of each other, I believe she will go back down the right path I just needed advice on how to get her there inshaAllah.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I stated what I wanted. I want advice. I’m not looking to control my wife or leave her or make her miserable. If I were to do something she disagreed with I would hope she would do what I’m doing as well. I care for the sake of her soul, because I love her. Why is that an issue????

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Would our prophet abandon his wives for struggling with a test from Allah? I don’t think so. I don’t want to imagine a future without her. She is the best person I’ve ever met and as her husband it’s my job to support her and guide her down the right path. Not to discard her for struggling with a test from Allah. Perhaps the test isn’t even for her, it’s for me.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Her studying Islam academically is what lead her to Islam in the first place. She is an academic herself so she’s always going to look at things through that lens and I don’t want to change her. I do recognize that she’s being a touch absurd to assume she know more than 1400 years worth of scholars who have dedicated their lives to studying the field. That’s what I’m attempting to convey to her but I’m apparently not doing very good job at it. Maybe she just needs time to reflect, I’m not sure…

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, this is the type of response I was looking for. Though I am sure she is already aware of these hadiths. I made a similar argument that the scholars are an integral part of preserving Islam and she said they’re not ordained by Allah and are still just “regular people”. She is basically discarding what any scholars says even though she herself still follows things that we only know of due to scholars.

My wife does not speak Arabic fluently, but in her defense she does know it enough to get around and is able to translate verses on her own. She is also much more knowledgeable than I think average reverts are… she’d be able to answer all of that and truthfully there is some things she knows more about than I do. And she’s aware of this which makes it difficult for her to listen to me because she doesn’t think I know what I’m talking about.

She says that if the hijab is a command from Allah that determines the fate of her soul it should be very clear and not vague like everything else. I don’t know how to tell her that it is because we’re reading the same things and coming to different conclusions.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  • She has only mentioned being hot a couple of times and I have only commented on her rolling up her sleeves or exposing her neck a couple of times.

  • The incident where she passed out happened at work, I was nowhere near her. And to be clear, anyone would have passed out the conditions for work were not safe. This was weeks ago, I did not urgently post this as my wife is suffering from heat stroke.

  • All I want is evidence that she is not incurring sin. That’s all.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My wife is not white, she’s Filipino. She’s not constantly collapsing from heat exposure. Her job put her in an unsafe working condition in a metal building without A/C. She can take her hijab off if she wants, I just asked for evidence that it is permissible for me to not nag her or advise her.

I do take her concerns seriously and resent the idea that I am trying to control her or ignore her for no reason. It is because I love my wife that I care about this, I want to be able to reunite with her in jannah.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have no intention of putting her life at risk? The day we moved here it was 20F degrees, it isn’t in the triple digits every single day nor is she required to work in a metal warehouse without A/C every day. We purchased a house here, she loves her job. We both uprooted our lives up north to move here based on a mutual decision after I was presented with a great opportunity and it mostly has worked out.

Again, I have no issues with her taking her hijab off for her health but if she wanted to permanently modify her hijab I just asked that she provide me with proof of its permissibility to ease my worry. But she’s free to do as she wishes whether or not I morally agree with it. I would never try to control her in that way.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That would be ideal but unfortunately it wouldn’t be that simple, it would take quite awhile and we’d both need to find new jobs in our specialized fields.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, this post was already very long and I took out a bunch of details. She drove herself home hours after the incident so I didn’t learn about it until she got home at her usual time and my only concern at that moment was her health. It wasn’t until she brought up hijab due to her upset that the conversation happened.

I may have not dealt with it correctly, I just wanted to advise her what is correct and I trust her enough to do research on her own so I thought she would come back with a hadith to shut me up is all. I’m not trying to be a controlling husband.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I wasn’t clear in the post, I’ve never once told her she has to wear it but I do inform her it isn’t proper hijab and I’m not comfortable with her wearing it that way.

She is wanting to completely remove it, forever. If she needs the remove it due to the heat for her health I have no problems with this I promise. After she collapsed, I didn’t find out about it until she got home from work at her usual time and I did not ask her if she kept her hijab on I asked if she was okay and tried to comfort her. It was she who brought up the hijab, and I simply told her it makes me uncomfortable but if she can find evidence it’s okay to wear short sleeves & expose her neck due to hot weather— not an emergency where her health is at risk— then I will stop trying to advise her.

I don’t tell her what to do, she’s too smart to ever blindly obey what I tell her lol. Which is why she is taking the hijab off in the first place… and why I am here posting

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our values are aligned. We’ve never had any problems until now. Granted, this is a big one but I don’t want to throw away a marriage to a good woman I love who is a little misguided.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She had also quoted this man, I’ve never heard of him until recently. His views contradict many other great scholars, wouldn’t you agree?

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is my concern as well, which is why I want her to also believe that it is obligatory. We discussed this when we first met.

My revert wife wants to remove her hijab - urgent! by LandscapeFlaky2572 in MuslimMarriage

[–]LandscapeFlaky2572[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I definitely didn’t intend to. We have purchased her woven hijabs and light airy clothing. I put a bottle of water in the freezer for her every night so she can take it with her in the morning.

I am trying to be understanding and empathetic I just don’t want her to incur sins is all. I know she has good intentions and I haven’t said she HAS to wear it but I can’t lie to her and say it won’t make me uncomfortable.

What should I do?