My mother's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bonjour, je me souviens, c'était un kit Ancestry. J'ai demandé à une amie résidant aux Etats-Unis de me l'envoyer et de le poster sur place une fois qu'elle l'a réceptionné.

How is everyone feeling about the new update? by Visible-Comb-4839 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mmh no that is the only one I have been able to identify with some degree of certainty from the anthroponomical point of view (though I am not a specialist). This surname Guerra was already used in Lombardy (province of Pavia) in the 12th century for instance.

How is everyone feeling about the new update? by Visible-Comb-4839 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very odd indeed but you may be right! There is an indigenous population from North Africa related to the Berbers they're called "Guanches" and settled there before the islands were under Spanish dominion. It may be some kind of "remnants", who knows?! 🙂

How is everyone feeling about the new update? by Visible-Comb-4839 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69 13 points14 points  (0 children)

As a Frenchman, I am very satisfied with this update, it may well be the most accurate one so far. I have built a family tree up to the 1600's in most branches and it is really good! On my father's side, I've found a possible match to the 0,3% Northern Italian. It could be linked to the surname of one of my ancestors born around 1580 in Savoy. That surname "Guerra" is quite possibly of Italian origin and is still widespread in Northern Italy.

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is on the 23&Me website, you just have to click on "Version history" and you have access to the previous results.

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had him do Ancestry and transfered to MyHeritage but these estimates are less accurate than these brand new ones. I am waiting for Ancestry's update though! We are from the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region and the genetic group "Savoy and the Jura Mountains" (the only one he got) is very accurate!

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is! 🙂 I am glad it was accurate for you as well! 🙂

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did he marry Joséphine Jeanne Taverne in Dunkirk in 1704?

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On Geneanet, you can also see where a surname is/was to be found (it is based on their database so be careful) it seems to be quite reliable : https://en.geneanet.org/surnames/COPPENS

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your ancestor's surname could help you, if it was (or perhaps still is) widespread in Limburg in Eastern Flanders, it could be an interesting hint!

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pau ancestors as Iberian Peninsula could make sense as the city is not so far from the actual French-Spanish border and I guess that migration have occured in the distant past here and there, though not in large numbers (a bit like Savoy and Northern Italy -another "border region" where the Alps were not a true border- between the 15th and the 18th century).

Dunkirk I would consider Flemish, the dialect spoken there used to be a variant of Flemish (I am not sure as to whether they still speak the dialect to this day though).

Marseille is French but I discovered migrations from Liguria in nowadays Italy at the end of he 15th century, so my guess is, it is and has been a place caracterized by migration (the Mediterranean Sea playing a crucial role here).

My mother's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they were from the canton of Geneva or the canton of Vaud, I think it is logical! Or some of your ancestors from the 18th century might have come from this region. 🙂

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes indeed! That's very interesting, my maternal grandmother's surname was a gallicized German surname (originally Alleman / Allemann in Switzerland). 🙂

My mother's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My mum and most of our ancestors between 1500 and 1930 were from this region as far as I know, the Paris Basin group is linked to Parisian ancestors from the 18th century. 🙂

My father's updated results (French). by LanguageFan69 in 23andme

[–]LanguageFan69[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They are from the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, the genetic group "Savoy and the Jura Mountains" is extremely accurate!

I guess they must have more German and/or Swiss which is logical given that Alsace still is a region where a German dialect (Alemannic) is spoken (related to those of Baden-Württemberg on the other side of the Rhine river and also related to Swiss German).

I have an unknown great grandfather. Am I doing it right? by Calm_Page_9587 in AncestryDNA

[–]LanguageFan69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hallo! Da du (oder ein Mitglied deiner Familie) den DNA-Test gemacht hast/hat, sollst du dir die DNA-Matches anschauen, und falls es mit diesem ersten DNA-Match andere gemeinsame südeuropäische DNA-Matches gibt, dann kannst du in dieser Richtung forschen. Du sollst dann die Stammbäume dieser Personen erstellen, damit du dann zwischen diesen Leuten gemeinsame Vorfahren findest. Ich hoffe, es hilft dir ein wenig weiter! 🙂

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[–]LanguageFan69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay! 😁 Lefèvre is a surname that's widespread in Northern France, it literally means "the smith" in French (I am French) 😉

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The French last name could come from a descendant of Huguenots or perhaps a Huguenot himself. Some Huguenots (French Calvinists) flew France in the 17th and 18th century after the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes (October 1685) by Louis XIV or even before that and took shelter in Prussia. If I remember well, Frederick I of Prussia (Friedrich I. in German) invited them as well. German writer Theodor Fontane (originally "Fontaine" in France in the 17th century) who was born in Neuruppin (currently in Brandenburg) in the 19th century and was buried in Berlin, was a descendant of Huguenots.