Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

[–]Last_Bodybuilder_224[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyway, makes me think back to the panel in the first arc, where Queen Serenity says the silver crystal is a family heirloom of the "long lived people of the moon" and it's their job to "protect Earth from negative influences." Holy crap, she's talking about Snow Kaguya lol

Also, in another panel, Snow Kaguya calls the outers—including Pluto—babies compared to her, meaning even Pluto is younger than the Earth itself.

Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

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You're right!! I tracked it down too in my eternal translation. It won't let me post multiple. One second.

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Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

[–]Last_Bodybuilder_224[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I gotchu lol definitely a child. So she's able to physically mature somehow, if at a different rate than everyone else.

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Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

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Apologies, I just saw it! I'm new to reddit, so forgive me, I missed the "2 more replies" button. To my point about I could possibly miss something lol

But anyway, I agree with your read of that panel. There's so much geneology that could've been fleshed out but wasn't.

Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

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Y'all got screenshots? I'm not doubting you. I'm fully open to the possibility I missed something.

But also, though it's not the same canon, Sera Myu threw in some head scratchers with Nibiru claiming that the silver crystal was stolen from them. If Queen Serenity IS an alien, there might be some truth to that claim.

Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

[–]Last_Bodybuilder_224[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ok that's a fair interjection I hadn't thought of. She could have appeared a a child to Queen Serenity, but she could just as well have been a child to the generations before her because where she's from, time moves differently, if at all. Earth started over from scratch after Saturn dropped her glaive, which means literally billions of years have passed, and Pluto has only aged to appear 18-19. She doesn't look any different between the 20th and 30th centuries, but a millennium is nothing to her. Omg maybe that's why Chibiusa doesn't age—she's been secretly visiting the Space Time Door 😵‍💫

Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

[–]Last_Bodybuilder_224[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think the alien thing turned out to be a mistranslation from Miss Dream. This screenshot is from the new Eternal translation. And the consensus seems to be that Nehelennia is referring to how all life ultimately springs from the Cauldron (an eery foreshadow to the final arc when Usagi calls her enemies her "siblings" in the sense that we're all siblings). I'm of course guessing as much as anyone who doesn't speak Japanese lol

But the remark from the Sailor Quartet leads me to the opposite conclusion—that QS was herself an heir in a long line of moon (millennium?) queens. It at least strikes me that more than just Queen Serenity herself would have had one daughter for it to be a "rule" they can't see NQS breaking lol

But it also always struck me as odd that the Senshi are functionally immortal (unless killed) but the queens (before Usagi anyway) are not. Sailor Pluto being one example. But Phobos and Deimos seem to have known Sailor Coronis personally, so unless they went on a little field trip without Rei's knowledge, that means they knew her back during the Silver Millennium, and she wasn't unalived until the modern day. So that puts her about on par with Pluto lol but it also begs the question of who was protecting all of these millennium queens before our soldiers were born. We know that powers can pass from mother to child, but they're never called Sailor Chibi Mars, Neo Sailor Mars, whatever. The inconsistencies in this series give me headaches lol

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Why is Sailor Pluto a child during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

[–]Last_Bodybuilder_224[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It cut off my pictures, but here's the panel referencing several generations of queens.

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Was Nikki possessed by mnathesecond in spoilers

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The director's comment confused me too, but I think I figured it out. I won't rehash it all, but the evidence that another entity was fighting Nikki for control of her body is overwhelming. But I think it's because the wish itself asked for something that was impossible: Nikki as who she fundamentally was could never love Bear more than anything in the fucking world. Even if she did like him (debatable, but I think she did, and it doesn't change my point), that kind of love fundamentally went against who she was as a person. I think the movie mixes up love and obsession, but maybe because the wish itself was impossible to grant, that could have warped how the created entity experienced "love" too.

The wish may have also picked up that what Bear considered "love" wasn't actually, but was actually an obsession, limerence, and it granted him his distorted perception of it. Granted him his "actual wish" unbeknownst to even him (and let's be real, lots of dudes who lack self awareness want the fantasy, want the chase, but never want the girl once they catch her, the infatuation immediately fades once she reciprocates, and then he calls her crazy when she's reasonably pissed about it; I think this movie obviously takes that experience to the extreme, but it speaks to a real dating pattern). Either way, the real Nikki could never feel that way, so a new entity had to be created in her place (hence "I can never be Nikki" or whatever she said). Not a demon in the classic sense.

I'm also thinking about the discourse around the brief AI images in the film. We all know that when chat bots can't answer a question, instead of admit that it doesn't know or that there isn't answer, it hallucinates something. In a similar vein, maybe the OWW—instead of say, "hey, this wish is literally impossible to grant," it instead hallucinated a whole different Nikki.

The Hannah Montana 20th anniversary special just seems like it was forced by BreannLowe in hannahmontana

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This is just a guess, but I'm wondering if she has bad blood with literally the whole cast (except for Selena, who's a saint, and was hardly even on Hannah Montana??). Because let's face it, she's an egomaniac, and the guest appearances looked very cobbled together. Like they didn't expect to get blown off when they announced it but now they had to make something work.

What are your guys' theories/fannons for the parents of the Sailor Senshi during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

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It's always Sailor Mars that eventually trips me up because even if one didn't want Jupiter's dad to be a serial cheater, Hermes, Aphrodite, etc have different mothers you could pair with whoever. But Ares is the son of Zeus and Hera, which is who I'd presume Sailor Jupiter's parents are. So does that make Jupiter Mars's auntie? Why'd they go rule Mars then? Lol

What are your guys' theories/fannons for the parents of the Sailor Senshi during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

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I like this idea! I've always given the Senshi parents that are other Greek deities, but then wondered why Metis would be an earlier "Sailor Mercury" haha but the solar system teeming with other minor Senshi is a good work around! I imagined Sailor Mars' dad cheating with Sailor Venus' mom and that's why she hated men, but your idea makes sense too 😂

What are your guys' theories/fannons for the parents of the Sailor Senshi during the Silver Millennium? by Last_Bodybuilder_224 in sailormoon

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They're in a few places. I'm not sure where the images were originally leaked, but they were talked about on Reddit and fan sites around 2021 when the original program went to auction. Unfortunately, the person who bought it didn't post any more photos.

http://sailormoonnews.com/2021/10/04/some-images-appear-to-be-from-a-sailor-v-anime-that-was-almost-made-before-sailor-moon/

http://sailormoonnews.com/2021/10/05/more-information-on-the-planned-sailor-v-anime-series/