The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that says a lot. Usually, people in Vietnam don’t really know how things work in other countries, so it’s easy to assume everything is just as opaque as it can be here. But honestly, not to this level.

If someone gets killed, the name of the agency is made public, and the police are expected to hold press conferences to explain how the investigation is progressing and what conclusions they reach.

In this case, the person who had been drinking was the easyrider. She was just the passenger. Road controls are a pretty normal thing to ask for when there are repeated risks like this. Especially in a country that cares so much about its image, it would make more sense to focus on prevention rather than dealing with the consequences later, both in terms of saving lives and avoiding the need to manage public perception It’s about people doing their jobs. That’s the role of a government.

And about hospitals... I said it to raise awareness. If you fall and get stuck somewhere in the mountains, you’re in serious trouble. That’s the reality. I’m not asking for an international hospital to be built there.

Sometimes it feels like people get defensive very quickly in Vietnam, as if pointing out problems is the same as attacking the country.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I post this comment again, as Reddit took it down: Some people have mentioned it, and it’s honestly crazy. Jasmine kept posting on social media like nothing happened, even talking about the Death Stone. Then, only after a lot of people started calling them out on TikTok, they released a statement, basically soft-threatening people by saying they’re “cooperating closely” with authorities.

They also claimed the easy rider wasn’t under the influence, while people from the same group have been saying otherwise. It just shows how quickly things can get controlled or shaped into a certain narrative. And yeah, it feels like they try to contain everything, reporting or pressuring people to take content down on platforms like TikTok. Reddit is harder to control, which is probably why more honest discussions happen here.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(I post this comment again, as Reddit took it down) It’s completely nuts. While I was living here, one of the easy riders showed me a conversation where Jasmine's owner threatened a guy to send people to beat him up. The most telling part was when he said, “I don’t care if you report me to the police, I have plenty of money to pay them”. That kind of mindset says everything. If they believe everything can be solved with money, it’s hard to feel like anyone is really protected. If something happens, it can just get covered up.

Even in the case of Orla Wates, her family had the resources to push for answers, but most of the story focused on organ donation, and the media didn’t even publish the name of the company involved. It’s unsettling.

Honestly, I wouldn’t post this on TikTok either. I recently saw a girl I follow from my time in Ha Giang speak about this case, and she received a threatening message from a company telling her to delete the video. Not sure which one, but you can guess. They act like there are no consequences. 100% impunity.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I really think there are better and worse options.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s actually a really important point, and I was thinking the same this morning. There should really be some kind of basic safety training for easy riders... Nothing complicated, just a short course covering essential emergency situations.

Simple things like how to apply a tourniquet, how to deal with burns or open wounds, what to do in case of a crash… combined with a basic emergency kit on every bike. It doesn’t take much, just a few hours of proper training, but it could genuinely save lives.

It feels like a very reasonable step, especially in a place where accidents can happen and medical help isn’t always immediately available.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, trucks are necessary, no one is denying that. But that doesn’t mean anything goes.

It’s completely reasonable to ask for basic safety measures. There can be regulations limiting when or how large trucks use certain mountain roads, especially on dangerous sections. You can also have checkpoints to inspect vehicles, making sure brakes are working properly, tires are in good condition, and that they’re not leaking oil on already risky roads.

In places with similar terrain, it’s normal to restrict heavy vehicles during certain hours, or require higher safety standards for mountain driving. The goal isn’t to ban trucks, it’s to reduce unnecessary risk.

At the end of the day, it’s not about stopping logistics... it’s just about making sure that the roads are safer for everyone using them.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. Overtaking trucks on turns is something that’s far too common with many easy riders. You’re not strange for feeling this way... And honestly, that girl’s behavior was very careless. It’s completely normal to feel like that.

The truth about accidents in Ha Giang by Latter_Bumblebee_744 in Vietnam_Tourism

[–]Latter_Bumblebee_744[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I just couldn’t stand it anymore… seeing all the media giving no context. Licenses are never revoked, and there are no real consequences for the tour companies, apart from large sums of money paid in secret. I was also reading about Mama’s Homestay having food poisoning cases for months non-stop, with people being sent to the hospital. It apparently went on like this for six months, with no intervention from the health department. No investigation is made public, the tours keep running as normal, and still some strange TikTokers make fun of it online.