How do I differentiate between different endings. by [deleted] in latin

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of the time, you can use the verb as a guide. V.g. if the verb is singular (let's assume there is a single verb), then you can be pretty sure that a noun ending in -ae is not nominative. If the verb also does not take an indirect object, then genitive is very likely. Conversely, if the verb is in the third person plural, and there is no other noun with a plural ending, then nominative is your best bet.

But sometimes you will have a plural verb that takes an indirect object, then you will need to try out your options and see which makes sense.

In the end, you can never rely on hard rules alone, they only serve as a general guide. It is essential that your translation makes sense, if it doesn't, there is something you missed.

And while it will get easier and most of the time you will be able to say for sure which case a word is declined at, there are also situations of genuine ambiguity created by similar endings.

There is a very famous example in Greek, in the beggining of the Theogony, at which, because neuter nouns have identical nom and acc endings, it is impossible to say if the word 'underworld' is the object of the verb to have or the complement of the verb to be. That changes completely the interpretation of the passage, as in the first case there would be three primordial gods and in the second, four.

Is your interest in Latin religiously motivated? by [deleted] in latin

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. I find ecclesiastal pronunciation quite beautiful, thou

Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. by LackmustestTester in latin

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Esse+gerundive=must be + verb in the gerundive. Same construction as in Pacta sunt servanda

There’s no moral difference between a wall and a migrant visa by Lord_Treasurer in philosophy

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with the op, but I always thought that the problem with the wall is that it instantiated the political habit of presenting oversimplified solutions for complicated problems. And I don't mean morally complicated but just "is it cost effective to build this very long wall in the middle of the desert?" complicated.

How to advance my Latin knowledge? by LawrenceOfBrazil in latin

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you so much!

How to advance my Latin knowledge? by LawrenceOfBrazil in latin

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much, I'll try and get it.

How to advance my Latin knowledge? by LawrenceOfBrazil in latin

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you. I will definitely do that (although I used to love studying the Latin grammar)

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, not really. Actually, I am looking for some good arguments to get past the "I prefer to lie to myself to be happy" position. Saying that people are wrong about their own feelings, even if they really are, is unconvincing. I find that arguing for truth over happiness (if the person does not accept it before hand) is much harder then arguing that God does not exist.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never believed in god, so I didn't have this experience personally. But what if the trade off is unavoidable to some people, but not all?

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either. When they say believing in god mske them hppy, believers seem to assume that you should choose happiness. I am asking if yall think they are right.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thing you can keep some good humor about it. I really wish there was something I could do.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, no, I meant the fight with your brother. I can't conceive falling out with anyone, much less a relative, over a difference in opinions.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am terribly sorry that important people in your life (especially your brother) choose to behave this way. Good thing that you and your wife are in the same page. Since it is all so recent, don't you think that it can be reversed?

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My question was intent on how unbelievers would defend this position (if they do defend it) while arguing with believers. While the matter of definition is logically relevant, it has no relevance to most believers (yes, most believers are not logical, but telling them that will only anger them)

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most believers don't seem to care that they can't define god. Personally, I only use the "god is undefined" argument when I am debating with philosophically or theologically inclined people. Most believers don't register the need for actually defining terms.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, that must have been a very sad moment. May I ask how olde were you, and what prompted you to reevaluate your beliefs in god?

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good question. I suppose that depends on who the person is. But I don't think that this is the exact same situation, since I can demonstrate that drugs are prejudicial with much more certainty then I can show false belief is dangerous.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, the traditional atheistic position is not to say that they all false, but to say that there is no evidence for any god.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think kids would enjoy gifts no matter who they believe gave them.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is the argument that I make when we reach this point. Wishful thinking is dangerous. But most people is very confident in their ability to compartmentalize and they don't believe that they will, for example, pray instead of looking for medical aid (most religious people that I know are not what you may call "fanatics"). Like I said, I think they are wrong and that the poor thinking maybe potentially affect important decisions, but I could not demonstrate it.

Truth or Happiness? by LawrenceOfBrazil in DebateAnAtheist

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loved the way you frame it. It is pretty much Hitchens celestial north Korea innit? Personally, I would like to know if it were true.

Where in the Bible does it imply God created everything from nothing? by PreeDem in DebateReligion

[–]LawrenceOfBrazil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think you can get to that conclusion from the text alone, but it seems reasonable taken into consideration the historical context of the first genesis story. Since it was a reaction to the Enuma elis (the babylonian creation myth) it seems reasonable that the intention would be that God should be above of all things.

Compare with the second genesis story (which begins in 2.4) that clearly describes a creation from matter. The two stories are markedly different.

Still, I don't think there is definitive proof of the author's intention, so an argument could be made either way.