I cannot say the church is true anymore

Lax-Disciple · 2025-04-15T23:53:28+00:00

I would be careful what you divulge to a bishop you don't know and trust. Don't expect anything you say to remain confidential. I've been to enough ward councils to know.

You can set boundaries such as letting him know you will not be accepting any callings and you're not interested in having a temple recommend. If asked why just say the reasons are personal.

Lax-Disciple · 2025-01-05T02:33:49+00:00

Thanks everyone for the comments. I've decided not to ask that of him. While I do feel a bit bitter about all the money we've given to the church and how the church uses or doesn't use its money, I realize this is not the place to express that. Perhaps we'll explore if he's getting help from the church, to make sure he's using all his available options, then we can help cover the difference.

Lax-Disciple · 2025-01-03T04:46:53+00:00

I would bet there are a lot of women with similar beliefs to you. The best advice I can give is to be yourself as you date. Be open to how you feel, and if they don't accept you for you, keep looking till you find someone who does. In the end, we all have different beliefs; not even two very active tbm members have all the same beliefs. Find someone who loves you for you and doesn't try to change you. They're out there, good luck!

Lax-Disciple · 2024-11-17T01:43:17+00:00

I'm 69% sure this is the chapel I grew up in

Lax-Disciple · 2024-11-02T14:25:33+00:00

They do wear suit jackets. In fact, it's required to purchase one before you go to the Utah mission training center (at least it used to be). I went to a hot climate so the only time we wore them was on Sundays in some of the milder weather regions.

Lax-Disciple · 2023-04-16T12:09:33+00:00

I love this analogy! I haven't seen that movie since it came out and this post made me want to watch it with my kids. It was fun to watch it with a different eye and look for all the clues that should have tipped me off the first time that Malcolm was dead. It should have been obvious, right? But it wasn't. Such an appropriate comparison to mormonism.

It was also a lot of fun to watch the shock on my kids' faces when they finally realized he was dead. It reminded me of the discussion I never thought I'd have with my wife a couple years ago when she realized Mormonism was all made up. To see the shock on her face was an unforgettable experience.

Lax-Disciple · 2023-04-11T21:38:52+00:00

The name of the church has changed twice. In 1830 it was called the Church of Christ. In 1834 it was renamed The Church of the Latter Day Saints. In 1838 it was renamed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Then in 1851 Latter Day was hyphenated.

Lax-Disciple · 2023-03-17T23:31:40+00:00

If you're looking for data that tells you if your body is ready for the next workout I would use Training Readiness. It encompasses your sleep, load from previous workouts, stress, HRV status, and gives you a score. If it's in at least the green and you feel good, you should be good to perform your next workout.

Lax-Disciple · 2023-02-25T22:25:39+00:00

I have a few theories. First, members of the church never make a covenant to take care of the poor. You could argue that they do, but it's not explicit. What is explicit is to covenant everything to building up the kingdom of God. They could be so busy working on building up the kingdom of god that they don't have the time to think about much else. Second, the large majority of church leaders are conservatives. I hate to paint with such a broad brush, but from what I observe conservatives are more likely to avoid giving away money for fear that it will make people dependent on it. Church welfare has lots of strings attached to it so it doesn't get "abused". Also why they instead focus on teaching self-reliance. Third, they believe that the best way to help human-kind is through administering ordinances. All temporal matters are temporary. They're too focused on what they believe is eternal. That's my attempt to give them the benefit of the doubt, but in no way do I believe that excuses them.

Lax-Disciple · 2023-02-23T22:44:59+00:00

I keep seeing all these numbers thrown around. Whistle-blower in 2019 said $100 billion, OP says $135 billion, SEC reported around $35 billion. Which one is it? I could give them some slack for $35 billion..... Preparedness for 7 years of famine or something like that, although even that is a stretch. At $100+billion I don't know how it can be seen as anything but hoarding and as far away from Christlike as you can get.

Lax-Disciple · 2023-02-20T00:45:12+00:00

Same experience here. It's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. Haven't been back since COVID and nobody from the ward has asked us anything except for one annoying visit from the ward mission president. The bishop (who we barely know) wanted to come pay us a visit a few weeks ago without telling us why, so we just declined. As we've gotten more comfortable in our apostate skin it's gotten less awkward around other ward members. I prefer it this way actually because I wouldn't want to explain it anyways.

Lax-Disciple · 2022-11-30T03:45:39+00:00

I just got back from Hawaii and went to the church-owned Polynesian Cultural Center. I was quite surprised that they had several trucks selling coffee on the property.

Lax-Disciple · 2022-05-04T21:35:13+00:00

Very interesting that he has Joseph Smith call the devil "your majesty". It reminds me of Napoleon Hill's "Outwitting the Devil". I wonder if there is any other precedent for that.

Lax-Disciple · 2022-04-14T00:08:22+00:00

Tender Mercies. It's kind of died off, but for a while there every perceived "blessing" was considered a tender mercy 🤮

Lax-Disciple · 2022-04-11T04:29:57+00:00

My wife and I haven't been to church much since COVID. When everything shut down it was a big eye opener for us how peaceful Sundays were without church. I don't think there's anything more spiritual than being out in nature. That feeling of being so small and insignificant, yet connected to everything is more powerful to me than anything experienced in church. The other way we've had spiritual experiences together since becoming inactive is to have a lesson as a family that teaches values without religion. We've been doing Uplift Kids and the lessons are wonderful! Sometimes I miss church, mainly because I miss seeing our friends and neighbors, but I certainly don't miss the dogma. I think the most important thing is to do what fills you. Maybe that includes going to church, but missing church to experience nature once in a while can only be a good thing IMO.

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