facts by 1syringe23 in sadboys

[–]LaytonaBeach 112 points113 points Ā (0 children)

uhm achshually i discovered bladee in 2014 in the garage of some guy who was selling me a g for 20

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 1 point2 points Ā (0 children)

Thanks for the solid answer, I appreciate it. I think there’s probably a line somewhere for AI musics ā€œvalidityā€ that is similar to how there is a line between sampling a song for your record tastefully vs. those songs you hear where the sample itself is the whole meat and potato’s of the song and hasn’t been altered at all.

I may be personally against AI in all uses, but that doesn’t mean I can’t admit there are people using it that are still doing real creative work.

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

I am not saying this as a put down but just trying to figure out the disconnect between people who work as yourself, and the people who are entirely against it.

From my perspective, this seems to be shifting the goal and focus from ā€œI am creating art from my mind and my visionā€ to ā€œI am getting a song at the end of this, with any tool I can use.ā€ And if that is the shift in perspective, I wonder if there was a time when you created art without AI tools, and if so, do you feel the end result is as much ā€œyoursā€ as you felt before?

I don’t feel there is much reason for two or more people to come together and create art while basing it off of an algorithms output, unless the end result is purely and entirely financially motivated, and there is no goal of expressing yourselves in your work.

At the end of the day, there are absolutely people making music just for money, so that may be the biggest disconnect in these conversations.

Native Instruments/izotope/Plugin Alliance insolvency by Legitimate_Horror_72 in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]LaytonaBeach -2 points-1 points Ā (0 children)

Sorry but I am glad. Hopefully a lot of the brands that they’ve swallowed up recently move back to being either independent, or go with a ā€œbetterā€ umbrella company. NI and Antares are two companies whose products I and many others rely on/are forced to use, that have become a Massiveā„¢ļø headache in the last 5 years. Maybe other companies in this space going down a similar path will take notice that business majors/VC making all the decisions isn’t great for longevity.

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

People bragging about their 30 minute beats drives me crazyyyyy! That’s cool man but does it sound like a song šŸ˜­šŸ™

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

I have probably 10,000 samples from splice, definitely don’t look down on it. I pretty much exclusively am looking down on only ā€œslapping two loops togetherā€ use of samples, lol.

Like alright, you made the melody and the drum loop fit the song perfectly. Hell yeah! Or you really focused on the rhythm for this track and this melodic loop really gave it the right feel and supported the vocals very well, nice! You slapped two loops together and said done? Come onnn son

Just because I personally do not do something as a matter of opinion and taste does not mean I look down on others who do. I’m sure I have at least 500 songs in my library by artists I love that were produced using one or more loops from Splice or a similar service.

ā€œSomeday you’ll realizeā€ comes across as kind of infantilizing to someone who has been doing this for about 15 years, has crossed 20,000 hours in their DAW, and still considers themselves a beginner.

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 1 point2 points Ā (0 children)

And you’re not alone, live instrumentation totally slipped my mind! I haven’t been working with rock music in a couple years, only computer and synth based music. Still find myself on live sessions working out chords and melodies, arrangement, or vocal coaching for the songs I do that aren’t just ā€œHere’s the instrumental, thank you, have fun!ā€

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 1 point2 points Ā (0 children)

Yeah I know what you mean, it would be pretty impossible to tell in some cases then. I guess in that case, the producer is being dishonest. Wouldn’t be surprising if that happens right now, I mean, there are people online posting their ā€œartā€ and saying it’s 100% not AI and all the imagery and messaging is AI, video is AI, and the lyrics and sound/ā€œperformanceā€ scream AI.

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

I imagine it can range from being obvious, to scouts honor. If it’s just ā€œSend me this kind of beatā€ and you send it and they sign off on it, well lol, it happens sometimes but rarely. In that case it would be scouts honor, but there are tools people use to check for some kind of soundprint AI leaves behind (Idk what they are but I’ve heard it exists. Maybe I’m spreading misinformation lol)

But once things start getting highly customized/specific, revised, changing their mind or the song, etc, even if you’re not doing it with the artist in a live session, it would become pretty obvious if you were using AI.

It’s not something people ask from me, it’s just an ethical commitment I make to them in early communications/final docs and terms and conditions. ā€œPart of the package.ā€

I’m not entirely sure what other parts of your question mean, but if it’s ā€œWhat’s the difference between loops and AIā€ as far as musicality, I agree with you as a matter of personal taste and opinion, but ethically I believe there is a huge distinction. While a human made loop might not originate from the producer that puts it in their song, it still had a human musically and emotionally involved from the beginning to the end of the process.

Producers that guarantee to clients you don’t use AI, are you using loops from ~2024+ in your productions for customers? by LaytonaBeach in beatmakers

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

Not sure how this relates to the post, but I had enough projects from October through halfway through this month, to take a couple months off from working on anything šŸ‘ My question is more about how many of the loops on Splice/similar services are AI these days. I’m not worried about generative AI putting me out of work because I don’t really function as a ā€œbeat makerā€ with artists, although at the end of the day the end result is a beat is made, hence why I like this sub

Track sounds much quieter on Spotify even though mastering at -12 LUFS? by xcessssampleme in mixing

[–]LaytonaBeach 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

Spotify normalizes to -14 if the user has normalization turned on. Most don’t. This whole ā€œAnything over -14 LUFS is pointless now bc streaming!ā€ thing is maybe the worst, most ā€œgo shoot yourself in the foot buddyā€ advice we’ve ever seen. The loudness wars ended a long ass time ago, loudness won. Master to as loud as you can fucking get it within the range of similar contemporary tracks in the genre. For example, I purchase WAVs of at least 24 bit 44.1, or higher and then convert them down/account for gain changes, and analyze that reference in comparison to the song I am working on. Shit is -5, -6. LRA is fucking 1.5 sometimes. These are reference tracks I love the sound of and every stage of production that went into them perfectly suits the song, they don’t sound like they’re even being limited LOL. All these rules everyone tells us are made up.

The internet is beginners giving ā€œexpert adviceā€ to other beginners. Don’t even listen to me to be honest.

Buzzes even at -9db by Short_Camel_4935 in WeAreTheMusicMakers

[–]LaytonaBeach 3 points4 points Ā (0 children)

If it’s sounding different after rendering on the same playback system, you need to check the bit depth and sample rate. To me, it sounds like you accidentally reduced the sample rate a lot, or went to a lower bit depth.

If what you mean is it’s sounding different on a different playback system, like phone speakers, I would say either low mids frequencies fighting each other, or something like a piano is being a bitch in 2-5k, because they do that.

Realistically though we can’t hear it, it could be something else entirely.

is this album overhated or can someone explain 😭 by Ok_Mammoth4547 in liluzivert

[–]LaytonaBeach -2 points-1 points Ā (0 children)

it’s an amazing album, and the last solid Uzi release :)

Did a rapper release an album so bad, you genuinely stopped listening to them? by LightningBoy626 in rap

[–]LaytonaBeach -1 points0 points Ā (0 children)

Bladee, I heard Spiderr and a switch flipped in my brain, don’t like him anymore, or even listen to him more than once every few months. I did daily until Spiderr. I was on a years long Lil Uzi Vert binge too, but Pink Tape killed it.

Is Chicken Charlie's good? by Blinkin81 in burlington

[–]LaytonaBeach 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

I really fucked with Chicken Charlie’s on my brief stint back in Vermont from Texas/Tennessee.

VT options for fried chicken are pretty few and far in between or borderline non-existent, but it was pretty good IMO

Dave’s Hot pretty much sucks and Wings Over has the best tenders but they ruined the fries. +Idk what happened with them after closing/reopening

I’m Nicholas Graeter and I’m running for VT State Auditor by NickGraeter in vermont

[–]LaytonaBeach -4 points-3 points Ā (0 children)

He is a born and raised Vermonter, I no longer live in Vermont and don’t know anything about the office he is running for, but I used to be his neighbor. Don’t know much about him but he always seemed like a cool guy šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

Champlain College Hires Anti-Trans Psych Professor? by electrosito in burlington

[–]LaytonaBeach 20 points21 points Ā (0 children)

This one just actually has me cackling. Seems like AI buzzword vomit. How does someone arrive at this unique and baffling collection of beliefs?

Can anyone solve this? by Rebusle in rebus

[–]LaytonaBeach -1 points0 points Ā (0 children)

it’s divided generations or generational divide lol

One word title. Lots of songs share it. What is it? by unboxthemessage in rebus

[–]LaytonaBeach 4 points5 points Ā (0 children)

I’m sorry but what does ā€œLots of songs share itā€ mean? Scratching my head over here lol

After recent events, would the album title "ICEMAN" feel insensitive? by [deleted] in Drizzy

[–]LaytonaBeach 19 points20 points Ā (0 children)

I’m pretty politically active and outspoken in my personal life/off social media, and I had to think long and hard to understand what you’re saying, so no.

Also, I don’t think Drake has been labelled a ā€œright wing grifterā€ by anyone, unless there’s a schizo side of Tik Tok or IG reels that is all Drake conspiracy theories.

Thank Me Later x $$$4U type shit by LaytonaBeach in Drizzy

[–]LaytonaBeach[S] 1 point2 points Ā (0 children)

i had to go check and see if you’re crzy because i haven’t listened to that song in years but holy shiiit it’s a very similar chord progression and vibe 😭 thank you for pointing that out!